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JJJ84

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In addition what JJJ84 already have written.


It is certainly for you, but I'm sure others don't share the same rating of the main girls and e.g. place Gracie before Luna.
Yeah, even in this thread, I've seen fair number of people actually have Gracie as their favorite girl.
And there's really nothing wrong with that (just as there's nothing wrong with those people not liking Luna, even though I may not agree with them and their reasoning for it).

She's different from Luna, Cordia, Isabel, sure.
But Gracie has quite a number of likable qualities with her also.
 
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Count me in, I am definitely team Gracie. And definitely not team Isabel. Don't get me wrong, in many a game I would be, and her pic was the first thing I noticed about this game, but compared to Gracie and Luna (which are close for me) she just falls short. So tripling the comment about "tastes differ".
 

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Count me in, I am definitely team Gracie. And definitely not team Isabel. Don't get me wrong, in many a game I would be, and her pic was the first thing I noticed about this game, but compared to Gracie and Luna (which are close for me) she just falls short. So tripling the comment about "tastes differ".
Before recent update, my preference was as following:

Luna >>> Cordia >>>>>>>>>> Gracie ~ Isabel

But with recent update, getting to learn more about Gracie (and no, it's not just because of my lizard brain :BootyTime: ), I've really gravitated to below in terms of favorites:

Luna >>> Cordia >>>> Gracie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isabel

Yup, Gracie, caught up, a lot (to Luna and Cordia, in my books).
Seriously, I feel Isabel needs to up her game somehow (not saying she's a bad character, but) cause it feels like other primary LIs are like leaving her in dust :HideThePain:
 
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Before recent update, my preference was as following:

Luna >>> Cordia >>>>>>>>>> Gracie ~ Isabel

But with recent update, getting to learn more about Gracie (and no, it's not just because of my lizard brain :BootyTime: ), I've really gravitated to below in terms of favorites:

Luna >>> Cordia >>>> Gracie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isabel

Yup, Gracie, caught up, a lot (to Luna and Cordia, in my books).
Seriously, I feel Isabel needs to up her game somehow (not saying she's a bad character, but) cause it feels like other primary LIs are like leaving her in dust :HideThePain:
I am certainly interested in Cordia but I don't have enough info on her to rank her. What I like about Gracie - I think, this is nothing you really can analyze, you like them or don't - is the nerd type, which I have a weakness for, with some twists to keep it fresh compared to the shy girl with glasses which doesn't dare speak up.
 

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I am certainly interested in Cordia but I don't have enough info on her to rank her. What I like about Gracie - I think, this is nothing you really can analyze, you like them or don't - is the nerd type, which I have a weakness for, with some twists to keep it fresh compared to the shy girl with glasses which doesn't dare speak up.
I think with Cordia, despite having no dedicated events for her, her charisma and her being gentle with the MC in that "Mother" event as well as trying to defend and understand MC's position (even to the point of arguing with Wilfred, in that recent video recording with the latest update), just makes me really fall for her.
Can't wait to get to her events in season 2 and get into more inner layers of th Blizzard Queen.


Yeah, Gracie's a nerd but a more....... confident type of nerd?
Shy girl nerd trope has been done so many times and you're 100% correct that it's refreshing.

And her socialization issue where she finds it difficult to understand human emotions is also one of her attributes I find intriguing (some people really hate that aspect about her, but it is totally fine with me).
 
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I see Gracie and I think of that one episode of House, M.D.

"How long have you been a psychopath?"
 
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I see Gracie and I think of that one episode of House, M.D.

"How long have you been a psychopath?"
Well, she aint a psychopath. Luna, cause of her scars, is actually closer to the psychopath trope. I use to see gracie as a sociopath or at least close to it, but thinking about her social skills, or lack there of, i come to realize she just does not realize how she comes across. At least not fully. When she tries to sound serious she just seems goofy. So I am sure it has to do with her lack of social skills. LOL
 

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You guys count only main house girls but there are lot girls in TDF that are nice
Well, yeah of course.
I mean obviously main house girls are my favorites, but I love the other girls as well (Eiza, Caterina, Onorina, Amita, Amata, Lelianna, Siobhan etc etc). There's countless of them and there's more to come (even from other Families).

But the thing is, despite me loving these other girls as well, they are in essence, side-girls. Meaning they won't have as much content compared to the main girls (Luna, Gracie, Isabel, Cordia).
So yeah it is what it is.

Having said that, if a side-girl becomes popular with the Patrons, that girl does get a little bit more screentime (primary example of that is Onorina. Hopes' Patrons really liked her character in that Ombra mission so she's been getting a bit more screentime than it was originally planned, from what I remember Hopes saying).
 

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I mean it's not subjective that Gracie has way more content, regardless.
Yes, it kinda is. It's not an objective statement, without defining how you've measured.
How are you defining "way more"?
Size? Time? Emotional impact? Number of missions? What?
It's undefined, which makes it subjective.
What constitutes "more" for you, might be completely different to how someone else measures it.

"Way more" than what, anyway? Cordia? :unsure: Yeah, they all do. :LOL:
You haven't even defined what you're comparing it to, never mind how you've quantified it.
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:LOL::ROFLMAO:

Putting this to one side, it's your opinion that "Gracie is the least desirable of the 3", which he said is subjective.
Because it is.
Changing the topic & adding "regardless" doesn't alter that fact.

You think she's the least desirable is fine. She is the least desirable is not.
You're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to state it as a universal fact.
 
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Yes, it kinda is. It's not an objective statement, without defining how you've measured.
How are you defining "way more"?
Size? Time? Emotional impact? Number of missions? What?
It's undefined, which makes it subjective.
What constitutes "more" for you, might be completely different to how someone else measures it.

"Way more" than what, anyway? Cordia? :unsure: Yeah, they all do. :LOL:
You haven't even defined what you're comparing it to, never mind how you've quantified it.
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:LOL::ROFLMAO:

Putting this to one side, it's your opinion that "Gracie is the least desirable of the 3", which he said is subjective.
Because it is.
Changing the topic & adding "regardless" doesn't alter that fact.

You think she's the least desirable is fine. She is the least desirable is not.
You're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to state it as a universal fact.
Must've hit a nerve with you. Still editing your post hours after you originally posted it. You've put more thought into that post than I really care to type out a response to regarding our opinions on what's subjective and objective. Have a good one.
 

whichone

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Must've hit a nerve with you. Still editing your post hours after you originally posted it. You've put more thought into that post than I really care to type out a response to regarding our opinions on what's subjective and objective. Have a good one.
What's the matter? It's just one question.
You couldn't answer how you subjectively define "way more"? :ROFLMAO:
 
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What's the name of the theme that plays when Gracie talks to Fawkes after disarming him? I've searched the entire playlist on youtube and found every piece of music that's played in the VN except that one.
 
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