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TimHawk

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AFAIK, the current Serpents are all new.
I believe the OG 4 were Cordia, Rina, MC's Father & one other.
Serpent may well have been the 4th, but I don't think he was Rina's finace, as that guy had his face burned out of the picture, so it seems unlikely he'd still be part of the Family.
Just checked the scene again :D

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MC : "That picture... The man beside mom... Was that my father?"
Cordia : "No. My friend and your Mother's fiancé at that time."

He does look a bit like the Serpent, doesn't he ? :D
 

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Technology plays an increasingly important part in warfare, afterall the US providing afgans with stingers is what allowed them to combat russian air superiority. Thermals and satcom/sigint with drone support make infantry warfare of today unrecognizable from twenty years ago.
Exactly but the training they recieved in when and how to strike also had a huge impact. Before whenever they saw smth russian - they just went apeshit and attacked. After they recieved training they targeted supply lines, strategic weaknesses, had proper teams with clear positions within them, instead of "whoever is around at the time". Obviously without the Stingers and oerlikons they still would've gotten their butts kicked, but it was a mixture of both equipment and training.

And yes nowadays its a whole different ballgame.
 

Checkman

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No, the MC's forte is reading people and then acting accordingly to negate their strength and exploit their weaknesses. And as we have seen from the playing ground scene, thats a skill he learned and improved/trained from an very early age. I mean you are basically trying to answer the nature vs nurture question and there probably is no easy or right for every situation answer. Was the MC genetically predisposed so that acquiring these skills came easier to him than the avg bloke ? Possibly, maybe even probably.
You are correct here, it is something that he trained. That being said, not everyone can be manipulative like that, they must be born with it. I highly doubt, that I can be in fact manipulative like the MC if I just train it. I can maybe manipulate a certain set of people, but not just anyone.

Now I don't know to which invasion you refered to earlier, but let's take an example from history, the russian invasion of Afghanistan. The afghan people were always incredibly crafty, hardy and had a huge advantage in knowledge of the land, but they still got their butt's kicked by a better trained, better equiped russian army, untill they themselves got training and equipment and they they slowly turned the tide of that war.
Just to mention the invasion that also happened to my country was a part of history. I don't really want to talk about because I do not want to talk about it. I do not want to use my country for something as petty as this argument.

Of course that better trained army will most likely win, but the word always was used which means 100% true. Better trained army is certainly more favorable, but is one of many factors that can change the tide of a war.
Leaders, tactics, technology, terrain, weather, morale, instinct to name a few are also important, not just the army.

So I guess the best I can say is, genetics can influence how fast you learn and how fast you can adapt, but wether its professional training from experts or a person training/learning by themself, I would always bet on training and expirience over genetic predispositons.
If we are talking strictly about the army (soldiers) then yes absolutely I would bet on training and experience, because it wouldn't make any sense otherwise.
But what I am trying to say that the most important people in the army are the leaders and tacticians who most likely have also fought in wars and though their intelligence can in lead an army to the best outcome. No matter how much experience you have if you are a dumbass you won't be able to use it all.
 
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Thanks!!
It could well be! So if he was Rina's fiance & MC's father is the burned out one, holding hands with Cordia, then Father & Rina betrayed both!!
But it seems as though there is far more regret & forgiveness for Rina.
Which, I think, suggests that MC's Father is more at fault.
I figured those 4 are Rita, Serpent, Cordia and Cordia's soon to be husband, but I agree that number 4 being the MC's dad would make a hell of a lot of sense. Bro.... imagine if the MC's dad is also Antonio's dad, I mean he is the only darkhaired person in the entire family !!!

Cordia was pregnant with Antonio, caught Rita and the MC's dad fooling around - all hell brought lose, gun to their heads. Cordia couldn't pull the trigger, its her bff and her love afterall, so she banishes them and since MC's father cheated on her while she is pregnant and robs her child of growing up with his father, the MC's father has to leave as soon as the MC is 10 years old and the contract is made. However just so the MC doesn't have to pay with his life for his parents betrayal, Cordia has to promise that the MC will be unharmed during his stay with the family.

Man did I just jump of a cliff and then swam a good 100 miles away from the shores of sanity :ROFLMAO:
 

Checkman

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Cordia was pregnant with Antonio, caught Rita and the MC's dad fooling around - all hell brought lose, gun to their heads. Cordia couldn't pull the trigger, its her bff and her love afterall, so she banishes them and since MC's father cheated on her while she is pregnant and robs her child of growing up with his father, the MC's father has to leave as soon as the MC is 10 years old and the contract is made. However just so the MC doesn't have to pay with his life for his parents betrayal, Cordia has to promise that the MC will be unharmed during his stay with the family.
Man did I just jump of a cliff and then swam a good 100 miles away from the shores of sanity :ROFLMAO:
Nah, you made a theory. Which is a fun to do.
And it looks quite good.
 

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I think that has been put forward before, possibility of Antonio & MC being half-brother, by the same Father.
Is it weird that it bothers me, that there is at least 1 person out there who is just as fucked in the head as I am ? :D
 

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Uhm, whichone, checkman? How about a visit to the pub, a cold brew, a game of Bridge and a group hug? Maybe Eiza can give a small dance performance?
Come ooooon, it was just a friendly banter. :LOL:
At least I saw it like that. Love arguing about theories like this. It's fun.
Though, it would be good to go to go out drinking.
 

TimHawk

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It's not outside the grounds of plausibility.
Don't forget, Cordia's husband - Luna & Gracie's Father - was a bit of a pacifist guy, from what we saw in My Name Is Luna.
I was never here for one of Hope's Q&A sessions, I wonder how willing he is to answer question that are related to the story. I mean let's say we ask "Is the MC blood related to any current member of the Deluca family, all ranks included?" Do you think that's a question we would get an answer too or is that a big no-no ?
 

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I'm pretty sure it's been categorically stated that MC is not related to Cordia, Luna or Gracie.
But that doesn't cover Antonio... :unsure:
Can't remember exact wording, now. Might just be that MC has no sex with blood relations in the game.
Ask. Hopes will let you know if it's one he can't answer, because it would be a spoiler.
Oki Doki, thank you.
 

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Any idea how to continue Business Toys? I've given 1000$ to Luna, spent 2000$ on online shopping, and then I received the package from Wilfred. I am going to morning again, but nothing happens
 

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I was never here for one of Hope's Q&A sessions, I wonder how willing he is to answer question that are related to the story. I mean let's say we ask "Is the MC blood related to any current member of the Deluca family, all ranks included?" Do you think that's a question we would get an answer too or is that a big no-no ?
You can ask about story. If it goes into parts I can't talk about, I just say I can't say it. But no harm in asking :)
A certain someone has tried many times :3
 

TimHawk

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You can ask about story. If it goes into parts I can't talk about, I just say I can't say it. But no harm in asking :)
A certain someone has tried many times :3
Thank you for taking the time to explain it. So now you have until the Q&A to come up with an answer .... hopefully other than "nope, can't answer that one" :D
 
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Any idea how to continue Business Toys? I've given 1000$ to Luna, spent 2000$ on online shopping, and then I received the package from Wilfred. I am going to morning again, but nothing happens
Did you talk to Luna in her room after getting the package from Wilfred?
 

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I'm more a lurker than anything, but there's something I always wondered about.

Are the mysterious six really called the mysterious six? No offense, but it sounds somewhat underwhelming as a name for an organization of that magnitude. You'd think they would be called something else given that they look like a secret government program to offer either a service or a product to a secret cabal of rich well-connected people.

Also, are there really only six members? An operation that complex would need way more than just six people to run it. Are they known by any other aliases in the story?
 

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Updated it for 0.09

- Game Version : 0.09.0
- Mod Version : 0.09.0b

Features:

Unlocked Gallery
• Money Cheat
• Skill Cheat
• Love Cheat
• Rename Mc


ps: not mine you can all thank BrandyYT for the original, i just updated it
This doesnt seem to work. The new scenes are missing from this one.
 
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