JJJ84

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HopesGaming Already said a lot in my previous post which said about my honest opinions about the game, but if there's one constructive criticism that I'd like to add (which I think would benefit the game if implemented):

- More renders to Contracts
Now, me saying this is not saying I think every single aspect of Contracts should be rendered. In fact, the way it was used in the Ombra mission in "What is weak is actually Strong." was done well. You prioritised the renders for important events of the missions, such as:

- Amata & Caterina's fight against Ombra soldiers and Capos
- MC's fight against Quasi-Capo
- Gildart, Onorina, Amata and Caterina's discussion about MC scenes
- Encounter with Siobhan

i.e. the interactions events that really mattered.
Situations like MC, Amata & Caterina just exploring the Ombra mansion's empty rooms looking for hidden items etc really don't require any renders whatsoever, and would have been waste of your time and resources.

My criticism is towards the 5 D-Contracts we undertake through Wilfred. The renders there did feel a bit limited compared to the main game.

Amata's lewd in "The Delivery Boy" was very, very nice and saucy and the meeting with the Bikini/Jewllery Girl in "Nimble Fingers" was nice too, but it left me wanting more and wish the following scene would have been rendered (even if it was just 1 or 2 renders for each):

- MC's meetings with old man (who knows about MC), soldado by the museum he fights, the associate and a girl he abuses [Nimble Fingers]

- The Friendly dog [Nimble Fingers] (some might question why I would include a dog in this, but who doesn't love dogs :LOL:? Come to think of it, I actually wouldn't even mind if this dog somehow even makes an appearance in the main game!)

- MC's first meeting with the nun twins Amita & Amata [The Delivery Boy]
- First meeting with Leliana [The Snooping Bonans]

- MC's kiss with Leliana [The Snooping Bonans]

- MC talking with the Lucania kids [The Bonanzo Meeting]

- MC's first meetings with the Painter, the old Ombra Soldado, the Girl [The Painter]

The text descriptions of the environment, tone and characters of the Contracts are already solid. Having said that, renders with MC's interactions with characters like above, I think would be a very welcome bonus to add to the immersion of these contracts (some more renders to the existing, and also future contracts, if they can happen, I don't think anyone would complain).

On other note, love the girls, but really love this scene.
Here's hoping that there are many more High-Fives to come between these two:

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Niv-Mizzet the Firemind

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Speaking of poison, for some reason playing through the game altogether up until the aftermath of the beach house event, makes me think that somehow antonio is behind of it all. And what trino did really is questionable, that dude literally radiates an aura of a loyal guy based on what he did on the past and he's action in game, the surprise in his eyes when before atonio dealt with him makes me question things more, its like they had an agreement before and all so thats why he was not afraid going into the forest for punishment but got surprised that antonio had other plans.
The mc asking eiza to look into trino at the end of the update would hopefully shed some light in this mystery, i just really dont see trino as a traitorous guy.
I don't think this holds much water for a couple of reasons:
Antonio, first and foremost, despite his other issues, is wholly dedicated to his family.
There is zero reason he would make his family seem weak by having someone poisoned in his own house. Also, he was right there by mc's bed when he came to from the poisoning, looking all relieved. If he was behind that, he wouldn't agonise in such a manner.
Also for that reason he would not be behind the beach house attack, because then he'd put his sisters in immediate danger of catching a bullet. He may be comfortable putting Luna in danger, but he wouldn't put Gracie anywhere near flying bullets.

Also, Antonio doesn't seem (to me so far) to be the scheming type of person. If he harboured any ill will towards the mc he wouldn't enlist Trino's help to kill him, he would take mc to the woods himself. Also at that point and quite further down the road, Antonio is as clueless as mc about the whole contract situation. If he were to take action, he would miss possibly critical information, which he is smart enough to not want.

As for Trino, isn't it possible that the Ombras (who were the behind the attempts) held something over his head, as they did with Eiza? Also, if Trino was that loyal to the family, wouldn't he spill his guts to Cordia when he was questioned? Unless of course his loyalty was to Antonio only.
 

Cartageno

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HopesGaming Already said a lot in my previous post which said about my honest opinions about the game, but if there's one constructive criticism that I'd like to add (which I think would benefit the game if implemented):

- More renders to Contracts
Now, me saying this is not saying I think every single aspect of Contracts should be rendered. In fact, the way it was used in the Ombra mission in "What is weak is actually Strong." was done well. You prioritised the renders for important events of the missions, such as:

- Amata & Caterina's fight against Ombra soldiers and Capos
- MC's fight against Quasi-Capo
- Gildart, Onorina, Amata and Caterina's discussion about MC scenes
- Encounter with Siobhan

i.e. the interactions events that really mattered.
Situations like MC, Amata & Caterina just exploring the Ombra mansion's empty rooms looking for hidden items etc really don't require any renders whatsoever, and would have been waste of your time and resources.

My criticism is towards the 5 D-Contracts we undertake through Wilfred. The renders there did feel a bit limited compared to the main game.

Amata's lewd in "The Delivery Boy" was very, very nice and saucy and the meeting with the Bikini/Jewllery Girl in "Nimble Fingers" was nice too, but it left me wanting more and wish the following scene would have been rendered (even if it was just 1 or 2 renders for each):

- MC's meetings with old man (who knows about MC), soldado by the museum he fights, the associate and a girl he abuses [Nimble Fingers]

- The Friendly dog [Nimble Fingers] (some might question why I would include a dog in this, but who doesn't love dogs :LOL:? Come to think of it, I actually wouldn't even mind if this dog somehow even makes an appearance in the main game!)

- MC's first meeting with the nun twins Amita & Amata [The Delivery Boy]
- First meeting with Leliana [The Snooping Bonans]

- MC's kiss with Leliana [The Snooping Bonans]

- MC talking with the Lucania kids [The Bonanzo Meeting]

- MC's first meetings with the Painter, the old Ombra Soldado, the Girl [The Painter]

The text descriptions of the environment, tone and characters of the Contracts are already solid. Having said that, renders with MC's interactions with characters like above, I think would be a very welcome bonus to add to the immersion of these contracts (some more renders to the existing, and also future contracts, if they can happen, I don't think anyone would complain).

On other note, love the girls, but really love this scene.
Here's hoping that there are many more High-Fives to come between these two:

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Very much a complete list - for Painter though, which is (arguably) the "standard mission" with the most depth, I would go a bit further: Meeting the old priest, the Cemetary, the "True Ending".
 

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- The Friendly dog [Nimble Fingers] (some might question why I would include a dog in this, but who doesn't love dogs :LOL:? Come to think of it, I actually wouldn't even mind if this dog somehow even makes an appearance in the main game!)
As someone who pet the dog to the bitter end every time I did nimble fingers without expecting aspirines, I didn't know I wanted needed this render until I read your post.
 

whichone

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- More renders to Contracts
100% agree. I feel it would add more depth to those scenes where we're meeting people, if we could see them.
I'd also like to see the actual painting, from The Painter! It is the whole point of the mission, after all. lol
Very much a complete list - for Painter though, which is (arguably) the "standard mission" with the most depth, I would go a bit further: Meeting the old priest, the Cemetary, the "True Ending".
Yup. Definitely.
The scene meeting the priest at the fountain (perhaps inside the confession booth, too), viewing the graves, both mood pieces that would add depth and immersion to the story.
The scene at the end of the True Ending, too. 100%.
Regarding
Painter though, which is (arguably) the "standard mission" with the most depth
I'd say it's the only one with any depth.
Certainly the only one that tells a worthwhile story.

The 1st is a series of unconnected events. No story of any depth or interest here, other than one interaction with the old man.
The 2nd & 4th are over quickly and are extremely basic stories. I found nothing of any depth or interest here, other than meeting Leilana.
The 3rd is either over in 3 moves, or sends you on a wild goose chase. No story of any depth or interest here, other than meeting the Nuns.
This is fine, we need some quick and easy ones to earn us some cash, but they don't have much of an overarching mission story, to any of them.
The 5th, on the other hand, tells a compelling and constantly developing story, that I found interesting & engaging.

For me, the other 4 were pretty much instantly forgettable, from the POV of their story.
 
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whichone

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What do I have to do here I can't get any further
Usually, you just keep clicking to progress the story. You will get directions available in the white rectangles.
I can't remember where the dialogue ends, but I'm guessing you can't do this?
You click one more line of dialogue, then directions become available:
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whichone

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How did you get 5 HP and MP (Energy) in the first place?
Prob used the unren console.
Have you seen the Easter egg from the couple fight, if you have 51 Att & 51 Def?
Sure
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I think it might be from , or maybe ?
(At least, those were the prominent 2 returns from a google search for "Cultivation Ranks".)
 
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I am playing over this game slowly......very slowly. Because some of the comments here have gotten my interest. But there's one line that seems to be escaping review here. The MC is important, very important. The serpents are know only to protect Cordia, they as far as I see don't even guard Antonio, Luna or Gracie yet they seem to be coming out of the woodwork and teaming up to protect the MC. Speculation about his ancestry coming from the serpents is well founded and confirmed but I can almost see a branch where his lineage is above Cordia? What if it turned out that his mother was not just a serpent but a descendant of the old guard that Cordia beat (and not just any member but like the daughter of boss of the top family). That could explain the betrayal, the level of his importance and maybe and reason to kill him, also why he seems to get away will things no one at his level should ( Meeting with Fazio). I'm now going into The blizzard Queen and will play that slowly, but I think his importance is where the key lies to his identity. Just my thoughts.
 

Niv-Mizzet the Firemind

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Prob used the unren console.
Have you seen the Easter egg from the museum guard fight, if you have 51 Att & 51 Def?

I think it might be from , or maybe ?
How did you unearth these?
Also, a small correction. The egg is from the fight with the asshole who threatens the girl.
 
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whichone

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How did you unearth these?
Also, a small correction. The egg is from the fight with the asshole who threatens the girl.
lol looked at the content in your screenshots & tried to identify a term I could search for.
Went with a google search for "Cultivation Ranks". (y)
Only reference I can find for " ", is in what appears to be an ongoing novel titled , which also has & Heavenly Spirit Realm is one of them.
I think this might be the one.
HopesGaming Sorry mate, but can you help us out here, please?
We're trying to figure out what the content for the easter egg in Nimble Fingers refers to.
Is it Dual Cultivation?
 
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Quick write-up/walkthrough for first contracts:

Completing Side Missions with the girls increases stats.
Completing all of Gracie's increases Intelligence +3
Isabel's increase Charisma +3
Luna's increase Agility +3

Promotion Event will also provide additional stats. Make sure that you collect the Reward, with Luna!

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n.b. Lower tier versions of some rewards are available, such as the Fedora.
Stat checks shown here are aiming for the highest versions, but lower ones are available.

Thanks to crabsinthekitchen & Skataaaaa for updated info. (y)
I finish always the fight in Nimble Fingers with 0 failures and still get D rank...Any ideas?
 
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