VN Ren'Py Completed The Engagement [v2.5.1] [Captain Kitty]

[Riitesh]

Suzie is not rare in common East Asian girl.

Well i am Asian and i know fair share of Asian women and nope they are not like Suzie. But there are girl like Suzie not only in Asia but in whole world. And Most of Asian women specially from less touresty places do not like Black people that much. (I am not being racist i do not have any problem with any black people i like them as any other human being. but this is truth.) And when i say Asian i am not including Arabs.

 

[Steve Carter]

4/ You hate NTR, why did you choose the NTR routes in game? It's very easy to avoid it (it's hard for people who seek it).

Tell me about it. I go out of my way to try to unlock the NTR and I can't seem to do it. Of course I'm trying to be faithful to MC's wife and just ignoring her/pissing her off enough to cheat on the MC. It seems you have to cheat on the wife first to unlock NTR, so it may be easier for those going the harem route to accidentally unlock NTR than it is for someone actually looking to play the NTR content.

 

[Riitesh]

Tell me about it. I go out of my way to try to unlock the NTR and I can't seem to do it. Of course I'm trying to be faithful to MC's wife and just ignoring her/pissing her off enough to cheat on the MC. It seems you have to cheat on the wife first to unlock NTR, so it may be easier for those going the harem route to accidentally unlock NTR than it is for someone actually looking to play the NTR content.

Nope even in Harem route you really have to fuck thing up to unlock NTR.

 

[Captain Kitty]

Tell me about it. I go out of my way to try to unlock the NTR and I can't seem to do it. Of course I'm trying to be faithful to MC's wife and just ignoring her/pissing her off enough to cheat on the MC. It seems you have to cheat on the wife first to unlock NTR, so it may be easier for those going the harem route to accidentally unlock NTR than it is for someone actually looking to play the NTR content.

1/ Now tell me, harem-lovers want to have all the girls and think that cheating won't have a bad result?
2/ The scene that The Kryptonian talked about doesn't need you to cheat on your girlfriend to see it. It only triggers if you don't help Suzie when she asks your help. Furthermore, if you want to have her (for the harem route), why don't you help her? Because only if you don't help her, you can see the NTR scene.
3/ Please check the walkthrough to get the NTR scenes.

 

[Captain Kitty]

Well i am Asian and i know fair share of Asian women and nope they are not like Suzie. But there are girl like Suzie not only in Asia but in whole world. And Most of Asian women specially from less touresty places do not like Black people that much. (I am not being racist i do not have any problem with any black people i like them as any other human being. but this is truth.) And when i say Asian i am not including Arabs.

I said not rare. I didn't say all of them behaved like Suzie.

 

[TheKryptonian]

Didn't I tell you to wait for July? I'm still wondering why you hate NTR but still play the NTR routes and come here to complain that I use Harem to trick people to play an NTR game.

I do hate NTR. But this game is different because all the characters are so unlikeable that I dont who is dicking them, im just here for the pretty pictures.

I didnt say trick people but you decided to focus more on the harem route after some asked you too and you probably hoped it would attract more patrons but really you just pushed your current fans away. Shit happens.

And all NTR stories border on the rediculous so why try to make a realism distinction with one character accepting or not accepting a sharing route?

Your the dev just do what you want but splitting hairs just seems silly. Just remember I do like your game and love the renders but just stick with what your passionate about and its NTR content not love/romance. You will NEVER please everybody. You do you

 

[Riitesh]

I said not rare. I didn't say all of them behaved like Suzie.

This is not factually correct but I won't argue with you.

 

[Steve Carter]

1/ Now tell me, harem-lovers want to have all the girls and think that cheating won't have a bad result?
2/ The scene that The Kryptonian talked about doesn't need you to cheat on your girlfriend to see it. It only triggers if you don't help Suzie when she asks your help. Furthermore, if you want to have her (for the harem route), why don't you help her? Because only if you don't help her, you can see the NTR scene.
3/ Please check the walkthrough to get the NTR scenes.

I just want to say that I am enjoying your game and think you are doing a good job overall so far. Part of what I am writing next is intended to be constructive criticism which is entirely your prerogative to choose to listen to or not. Either way I'm sure you'll produce an enjoyable finished product when the game is finally complete.

For the first point I agree with you, although the point is oddly phrased in the form of a question but doesn't actually seem to be a question which confuses me a bit but I am about 85% sure I agree with you.

I understand where you're coming from for the second point but (and this is just my personal preference) I don't care about Suzie herself. Also I hate to be THAT guy but technically Suzie having sex with a man besides the MC isn't NTR. Really only the wife cheating on you counts as NTR (unless you first establish a relationship with Suzie and THEN she cheats on you). This game starts with the assumption that any girl the MC can have sex with in the game is the MC's "property" and that if any other man has sex with them then it is NTR. I'm usually nice to Suzie and I don't try to get in her pants. In regards to NTR content i am more interested in the wife cheating on the MC and I don't want to cheat on her with Suzie. I have no problem with pissing the wife off until she cheats though, or just being an insensitive jerk. I do enjoy watching Suzie being corrupted so I do get enjoyment from her in the game. If my competitor for the wife's affection is the one going for a harem route I would also enjoy that content as well. If that kind of content won't be in the game then that's cool and I'll still play it anyway and probably enjoy it,

For the third point, if "just look at the walkthrough" is going to be the response to those that are having difficulty with the content then I'd recommend making the walkthrough a part of the game itself. You could turn on a mode where the stat points are visible when you make dialogue selections or something like that. If the expectation of the developer is that you should also be looking at the walkthrough to play the game in your preferred manner and to see the content as advertised in the tags (and at the end of the episode), then it should be integrated into the game and not an external document. Or even just an NTR or Harem mode, where the correct dialogue selections for each route are highlighted in a certain color. Personally I won't use those modes just as I prefer not to use walkthroughs because they tell me exactly which selections to pick and I prefer to try different things to see what happens. I should be getting some kind of feedback from the game to let me know how I'm progressing though and I feel that's lacking. The game shouldn't be almost impossible to play without a walkthrough. That's not a challenging game, that's just an issue with game design.

 

[Ero - Sennin]

I created Suzie with the thought 'why all Asian girls in daz3d games are maids, side girls, ugly...' so I made her as the second girl in game. But it turned out that people like her more so she's somehow the first girl now.

The reason is simple and somewhat related to my preference, I just said that I don't like bf and gf sex because it's very common so I find it boring so maybe because Emily is the already the girlfriend and the main subject for NTR that's why they prefer Suzie

 

[Captain Kitty]

I just want to say that I am enjoying your game and think you are doing a good job overall so far. Part of what I am writing next is intended to be constructive criticism which is entirely your prerogative to choose to listen to or not. Either way I'm sure you'll produce an enjoyable finished product when the game is finally complete.

For the first point I agree with you, although the point is oddly phrased in the form of a question but doesn't actually seem to be a question which confuses me a bit but I am about 85% sure I agree with you.

I understand where you're coming from for the second point but (and this is just my personal preference) I don't care about Suzie herself. Also I hate to be THAT guy but technically Suzie having sex with a man besides the MC isn't NTR. Really only the wife cheating on you counts as NTR (unless you first establish a relationship with Suzie and THEN she cheats on you). This game starts with the assumption that any girl the MC can have sex with in the game is the MC's "property" and that if any other man has sex with them then it is NTR. I'm usually nice to Suzie and I don't try to get in her pants. In regards to NTR content i am more interested in the wife cheating on the MC and I don't want to cheat on her with Suzie. I have no problem with pissing the wife off until she cheats though, or just being an insensitive jerk. I do enjoy watching Suzie being corrupted so I do get enjoyment from her in the game. If my competitor for the wife's affection is the one going for a harem route I would also enjoy that content as well. If that kind of content won't be in the game then that's cool and I'll still play it anyway and probably enjoy it,

For the third point, if "just look at the walkthrough" is going to be the response to those that are having difficulty with the content then I'd recommend making the walkthrough a part of the game itself. You could turn on a mode where the stat points are visible when you make dialogue selections or something like that. If the expectation of the developer is that you should also be looking at the walkthrough to play the game in your preferred manner and to see the content as advertised in the tags (and at the end of the episode), then it should be integrated into the game and not an external document. Or even just an NTR or Harem mode, where the correct dialogue selections for each route are highlighted in a certain color. Personally I won't use those modes just as I prefer not to use walkthroughs because they tell me exactly which selections to pick and I prefer to try different things to see what happens. I should be getting some kind of feedback from the game to let me know how I'm progressing though and I feel that's lacking. The game shouldn't be almost impossible to play without a walkthrough. That's not a challenging game, that's just an issue with game design.

You're right about the fact that Suzie with other guys is not NTR.
But some people said that I made an excuse about that to 'trick people to play the game' so I counted every scenes that the man was not the MC as NTR scenes. Because I'm tired of those people who always say that I'm tricking them to play this game.

About the point appears, I will consider about that. Thanks.

The reason is simple and somewhat related to my preference, I just said that I don't like bf and gf sex because it's very common so I find it boring so maybe because Emily is the already the girlfriend and the main subject for NTR that's why they prefer Suzie

People who want Suzie more include NTR-patrons. They want to see Suzie more because she's Asian, which is very rare in games.

 

[fzaner]

I'm curious. Why do people hate NTR still play this game and try to see the erotic scenes in the NTR routes, then complain about the NTR in this game?

well people playing this game because they enjoy it, some no lifs here in your theard are specialised of playing ntr games and enjoy them, then they whine about it to devs " i won't support this game because of ntr" " i am a man and half " bla bla bla, check their old posts is almost all in ntr theards. i guess it's a kind of a new fetish indeed.

idon't know if this post will get deleted too or not. because if i ever defend a kind of fetish or talk back; my post get deleted and get warning of account ban, i guess this account won't last mush

yeah, maybe because my username color is white and theirs are yellow ?

 

[Captain Kitty]

well people playing this game because they enjoy it, some no lifs here in your theard are specialised of playing ntr games and enjoy them, then they whine about it to devs " i won't support this game because of ntr" " i am a man and half " bla bla bla, check their old posts is almost all in ntr theards. i guess it's a kind of a new fetish indeed.

idon't know if this post will get deleted too or not. because if i ever defend a kind of fetish or talk back; my post get deleted and get warning of account ban, i guess this account won't last mush

yeah, maybe because my username color is white and theirs are yellow ?

I see many of them call themselves 'I hate NTR and will never support NTR games'. One guy even said that 'if icstor starts to make another game with NTR genre, I will stop supporting him even though I still download milfy city on F95 to play'.

But they keep playing NTR games and try to see the NTR scenes then complain about NTR or other problems. No idea why they do that. A guy chose to be a weakling then complained here that 'the dev lied about the MC is not a weakling'. Until now, I still wonder why he chose not to protect Suzie then complained here. If a lion acts like a cat, he makes himself a cat. Can that lion complain about that fact?

 

[Allamante]

If you don't like the game, then don't play the game...Personally I love it so I keep playing it.

 

[fzaner]

I see many of them call themselves 'I hate NTR and will never support NTR games'. One guy even said that 'if icstor start to make another game with NTR genre, I will stop supporting him even though I still download milfy city on F95 to play'.

But they keep playing NTR games and try to see the NTR scenes then complain about NTR or other problems. No idea why they do that.

good luck with your shit buddy ur doing great for a dev, having patience answering them and makin game same time... my respects.

good game. and be aware that there's something called criticism and discouragement. good luck... not so mush into ntr but i'm a fan of your game!

 

[symxxx]

wait when the last update 2 days ago?

 

[Captain Kitty]

2 possible reasons

1. Maybe they did that because they want to compare the sex between the NTR guy x girl and the MC x girl, If the sex with NTR guy is better, then you already know. Believe me, Non-NTR Fags are more selfish than NTR lover, It suits their personality in the game that they don't want to share their (every) girls even though it's really not their property

2. Idiots are doing it on purpose to piss and discourage NTR DEV so that they will not continue anymore thinking that majority of the people don't like ntr, Dev will lose supporters,. IDK maybe they just hate NTR so much that even though thread has an ntr tag they want to shit on every ntr lover's fetishes

No matter what the reason is, I agree with leonhart025 and we are on your side

I think you're right.
This is what I always say on my discord about anti-NTR people:
Do you know Doraemon manga? If you don't know, please try to google it. The main character of this manga (later anime) is Nobita. Nobita is a crybaby. He always comes to Doraemon to ask for things or to ask for help. Furthermore, he's a lazy slacker who always wants to sleep. He's also bad at sport and is a coward who doesn't try to stand up for himself when being bullied. He's only good at 'shooting gun-toy'. He has Shizuka, an intelligent and beautiful female classmate.
His fate was destined to marry a fat and ugly girl (Jaiko, younger sister of Jaian - the one who bullies him all the time). But Doraemon comes from the future to help him change his fate. He will marry Shizuka in the future (just because she will feel pity for him, not because he will become a better guy). What the fuck is that? Is this logical for Shizuka to choose him? Will an intelligent girl abandon her bright future to become a housewife of that buffoon?
But that's Doraemon manga. And most of the readers liked that (if not, the manga series wouldn't be as long as they were. It is still being developed now with other artists, not the deceased creator).
What if Nobita can't marry Shizuka? The readers (who see themselves as Nobita in real life: dreams to marry the best girl but can't) will protest and abandon the manga.
It looks like that in Adult Games. Some people consider themselves as the Main Character. And they hate the fact that they couldn't get the girls even in games. That's too much for them. They couldn't fap the dream girl in real life. And now they couldn't fap the girls in games? What the fuck? Stupid developers! LOL.

 

[laflare82]

The reason is simple and somewhat related to my preference, I just said that I don't like bf and gf sex because it's very common so I find it boring so maybe because Emily is the already the girlfriend and the main subject for NTR that's why they prefer Suzie

It has nothing to do with her being asian or not why people like Suzie she's absolutely loveable she's the perfect girl I had a girlfriend from el salvador that was like Suzie we met a job corps she was such a shy cutie people tried to take advantage of her me standing up for her is what developed our friendship and then relationship but that didnt make her easy nor stupid scared to the point if you tried or raped her that she wouldn't call the cops on you or call me or friends of hers to retaliate also she would not have been working in a company that your boss demotes you because you wouldn't sleep with a client to get a deal and also that business wouldn't be operating with all these sexual harassment allegations and lawsuits it would be facing

 

[laflare82]

good luck with your shit buddy ur doing great for a dev, having patience answering them and makin game same time... my respects.

good game. and be aware that there's something called criticism and discouragement. good luck... not so mush into ntr but i'm a fan of your game!

Hold up we ntr haters play ntr games NTR games and try to see the NTR scenes then complain about NTR you cant be serious I thought we played ntr games we the intent of the ntr scenes being avoidable tell me one ntr game that is avoidable you hear complains about just name 1 boss you intentionally created this controversy purposely (The Engagement is the story about you and people around you. You are on a business trip with Suzie {(your best friend's girl). You have this chance to have her for yourself. But you may lose your current girlfriend, Emily. Each decision makes a different outcome. Can you have all the girls or no girl? It's all your decisions.)} that was your selling point wasn't it (Culture Shock) was just released the Dev for that game is doing the same b.s. this Dev does, take note from a Dev who gives two @#$% about peoples complaints and tells the truth from the very start (The Decent) he did not lie mislead sugar coat nothing he gave it to love it or hate its NTR @#$%^& instead of hyping two different crowds of people of NTR just focus on one stop lieing to people making them think game has two path when it only has one it's simple if you stayed true to your words from the start there would don't be so much toxic bickering between the two crowds you started this by lieing I don't know about you but Im not interested in watching another man screw a girl you force the player to watch these scenes if they don't try to help Suzie and to help Suzie means to cheat so I can only help by cheating on my girl like hurt or not most men would want to help just to help I dont need to like her to help her out thus you force MC to like the girl and want to cheat on his girl come on Dev if you put the option to not give Suzie personal life a second thought there would be no discussion here I like Suzie over the girlfriend because shes bat shit crazy but if this was real life I wouldn't jeopardize my relationship for Suzie I'd try and help her stand up for herself and if she does not get it after 1 or 2 lessons she's on her own.

 

[Captain Kitty]

Hold up we ntr haters play ntr games NTR games and try to see the NTR scenes then complain about NTR you cant be serious I thought we played ntr games we the intent of the ntr scenes being avoidable tell me one ntr game that is avoidable you hear complains about just name 1 boss you intentionally created this controversy purposely (The Engagement is the story about you and people around you. You are on a business trip with Suzie {(your best friend's girl). You have this chance to have her for yourself. But you may lose your current girlfriend, Emily. Each decision makes a different outcome. Can you have all the girls or no girl? It's all your decisions.)} that was your selling point wasn't it (Culture Shock) was just released the Dev for that game is doing the same b.s. this Dev does take note from a Dev you gives two @#$% about peoples complaints and tells the truth from the very start (The Decent) he did not lie mislead sugar coat nothing he gave it to love it or hate its NTR @#$%^& instead of hyping two different crowds of people of NTR just focus on one stop lieing to people making them think game has two path when it only has one it's simple if you stayed true to your words from the start there would don't be so much toxic bickering between the two crowds you started this by lieing I don't know about you but Im not interested in watching another man screw a girl you force the player to watch these scenes if they don't try to help Suzie and to help Suzie means to cheat so I can only help by cheating on my girl like hurt or not most men would want to help just to help I dont need to like her to help her out thus you force MC to like the girl and want to cheat on his girl come on Dev if you put the option to not give Suzie personal life a second thought there would be no discussion here I like Suzie over the girlfriend because shes bat shit crazy but if this was real life I wouldn't jeopardize my relationship for Suzie I'd try and help her stand up for herself and if she does not get it after 1 or 2 lessons she's on her own.

1/ Many people know that the harem routes/romantic routes appear later than the NTR routes. They follow this topic or patreon page to know that. Not like you who is saying I'm lying to trick you and others.
2/ Read the walkthrough to see that there are chances for Suzie not to come to Jim's house on the business trip. She only comes to his house if you suggest her. If she is on Woody or Alex route, she will go home. You don't need to cheat on Emily at all. And furthermore, people want a harem route and how can a harem route happens if you don't have a romantic route with other girls beside your girlfriend?

 

[Noneless]

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