VN Ren'Py Completed The Engagement [v2.5.1] [Captain Kitty]

[armion82]

Using two out of the three uses of NTR, it should still only revolve around either Emily or Maxx. Someone fucking Suzie is not ntr.

Ok is realy that Maxx the MC?Because it is what like 2-3 sex scenes for him.I have the feeling that the girls are the MC because they have way more action

 

[JTsmoothhands]

I've seen way to many games shut down because the dev was to active arguing with the faceless people that will never pay for his game anyway. You're going to ruin your game taking so much outside influence. What really attracts people to art is that you tell a genuine story. Tell your truth, take relevant feedback, and screw the rest.

 

[Captain Kitty]

I've seen way to many games shut down because the dev was to active arguing with the faceless people that will never pay for his game anyway. You're going to ruin your game taking so much outside influence. What really attracts people to art is that you tell a genuine story. Tell your truth, take relevant feedback, and screw the rest.

When I started The Engagement, I didn't know that. That's why I took their opinions into consideration. But right now, I know clearly that they're not my supporters. So dealing with them only when I want to relieve some tenses in my head. Their opinions don't effect me. Because this forum doesn't allow me to troll back. But on fap-nation, I said 'I love you, bitch' for those comments from haters. Still waiting for those comments to be approved though. LOL

 

[randos belgados]

When did I say that I needed your positive comments? Did I say that I made this game for those who are whining? Don't like it, don't play it. Stop bitching when continue to play it. The harem route is brought into the game not to please you who are whining. Why do I need to please you? If it's not because that I promised to bring harem into the game with my patrons, I wonder why do I care to bring it into the game? To please you? To have positive comments and reviews from you? Why should I need that? Rubbish.

love this!

this is the real business. he works for the money. not for free players complain! lol

 

[deluges]

They didn't accept that and said that I tricked them. Actually I must say that I was affected by them.

In the beginning, the game showed very clear in the demo version: if you choose Emily, you won't have Suzie and vice versa. There wasn't a harem route at all. And I didn't think Suzie stayed with other guys were NTR.

But somehow, I was affected and changed the game. There would be a harem route. But that was not enough for them, they kept attacking me. Well, I cut the harem route off the game from that moment. But later, 33% of my patrons wanted the harem route, so I brought it back again. And after considerating, the harem route would be the truth ending. Some endings was changed since that day.

Original plan:
1/ Emily's mom died.
2/ The MC would be shot if he touched Suzie. No harem route at all.

Current plan:
1/ Emily's mom didn't die.
2/ The harem route will be the happy ending (true ending).

What amuses me is this: Some people spend some hours per day on this forum playing many games. And most of them are not into NTR. They are not my supporters, but they think I have to satisfy their fantasies.

At the moment, my patrons' ideas are sources for me to consider between many possibilities I wrote down for The Engagement. Their ideas will be chosen if it fits best for the game. I appreciate their ideas, but it doesn't mean I must follow all of their ideas. But the truth is: they didn't give me any ideas, requests, demands... about the story everytime I asked them. So there's no reason for me to follow the requests from people who don't like my game here.

About NTR, actually if you can't make Suzie fall for you, that's not NTR at all when Suzie has xxx with Woody or Jim. Same for Emily, since version 2.2.0, Emily only accepts Alex if she broke up with the MC before. That's not NTR at all. After considerating, I don't think this game has many cuckolded scenes like other NTR games. It's just love stories between other people not the MC (not include Suzie and Jim, it's a corruption route). But can I say that? Can I tell people that this game has less NTR scenes than they think? Will they accept that? Or will they say that I'm tricking them again? Therefore, just let them think what they think. I just continue with my story. Harem will be the true ending if you continue to play, that's the end of my line.

That does seem like quite the dilemma, and your last paragraph basically sums up how I feel about it, nothing with Suzie, if you're not in a relationship with her is ntr. Based on all of the games on here that I've played I will say that trying to appease fans of NTR and harem at the same time is most likely not going to work, especially if you didn't plan the game out to incorporate both.

The fact that you created a game called the Engagement and your dev name is / was NTR Games and people had an issue with the NTR and wanted a harem game instead is.... hilariously dumb.

At this point "The Engagement" part of the game doesn't even matter. Emily quickly breaks up with the MC if he tries to stop her from cheating. If you let it happen there's also not any ramifications (yet). Too much of the game centers around Suzie right now which, to me, the focus should be more on Emily and Maxx. Emily also doesn't seem to be much of a character. Everything that she does really hinges on choices that Maxx makes that have nothing to do with her at all, which is unfortunate.

I really liked the idea of this game, but right now it seems like you're just being pulled in too many different directions and it feels unfocused and unfulfilling.

 

[Eula25]

They didn't accept that and said that I tricked them. Actually I must say that I was affected by them.

In the beginning, the game showed very clear in the demo version: if you choose Emily, you won't have Suzie and vice versa. There wasn't a harem route at all. And I didn't think Suzie stayed with other guys were NTR.

I'm not a fan of NTR game but I understand what your point... Suzie isn't MC girl.... so even if she end up with other guy it isn't NTR...Unless you want Suzie then emily will end up with other guy which is NTR... Be patient dude...you cannot satisfy everyone... Just do your best to so that you will make a quality update... take it slow man

 

[Hexxoo]

What is NTR anyhow?

 

[Silver]

smh checked the thread for discussions, but found swearing.

 

[Eula25]

smh checked the thread for discussions, but found swearing.

People become more toxic nowadays

 

[Dark Cloud]

NTR = netorare

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From the site:

It's a genre of adult manga or hentai. It should be defined as CHEATING/Unfaithful/Adultery.

It is too often INCORRECTLY defined as "

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". However true readers of the genre know that cuckholding is just a sub-element and a fetish. A fetish where one likes to watch their significant other,

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(usually sexual) with another person.

In

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(

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) however the the a bf/gf/wife/husband Do Not have to make a appearance in the story whatsoever. They often Do Not Ever find out about the betrayal. In some

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the cheated on individual may in up in a situation where they are forced to watch there significant other cheat on them. To go slightly further. Some ntr is known as

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. This can also be defined as Cheating. Ecxept it's from the point of view of the individual stealing away the heart of someone already in a relationship. Once again the gf/bf/wife/husband never has to make a appearance in this type of story.

For the illiterate/

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;

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is just Cheating NOT

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. The individual being cheated on may never find out or even be shown in the story.

A sub-element at best seldom/sometimes used, Cuckholding is a fetish. About an individual's desire/want to be cheated on by their significant other.
Netorare can be seen daytime soap operas. Whenever someone cheats on somebody.
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in a daytime soap opera.

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can even be mutually desired in

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relationship.

 

[bonetown]

No matter what choices you make, your game will find its audience. What matters is the art and story writing that you have to share with us.
There will always be whiners or frustated people, we're on a porn game forum after all and that's why 80% of porn games are shit, they prefer to satisfy the mass, people will jerk off and download another game in the next minute, no matter the quality.
This is how it works.


Don't fall into this mediocrity and do your job, do what you like.

 

[Kame-Sennin]

All the content is basically ntr... might as well make this a cuck game like The Adventurous couple, which is a good vn btw, so not saying that in a negative way.

Doesn't make sense, Emily is not cool like Anne or Jenny in (Happy Marriage) , harem is not possible if she is the girlfriend, better for MC to let her go and be happy with someone else.

 

[JoleenStar]

Would LOVE a changelog!

Waiting to D/L until one is posted.

 

[Captain Kitty]

Based on all of the games on here that I've played I will say that trying to appease fans of NTR and harem at the same time is most likely not going to work, especially if you didn't plan the game out to incorporate both.

The fact that you created a game called the Engagement and your dev name is / was NTR Games and people had an issue with the NTR and wanted a harem game instead is.... hilariously dumb.

At this point "The Engagement" part of the game doesn't even matter. Emily quickly breaks up with the MC if he tries to stop her from cheating. If you let it happen there's also not any ramifications (yet). Too much of the game centers around Suzie right now which, to me, the focus should be more on Emily and Maxx. Emily also doesn't seem to be much of a character. Everything that she does really hinges on choices that Maxx makes that have nothing to do with her at all, which is unfortunate.

I really liked the idea of this game, but right now it seems like you're just being pulled in too many different directions and it feels unfocused and unfulfilling.

I didn't intend to please both sides, NTR and Harem. If we use the true meaning of cheating, cuckolding, NTR... there is only one scene that can be called an NTR scene: the MC peeped on Alex and Emily. The rest are not NTR at all. But I don't think this will help us go anywhere because people will say that I'm tricking them by saying that.
How Harem was brought into The Engagement was discussed earlier. At the moment, I don't intend to please NTR or Harem lovers. The Engagement will followed my plot.

The Engagement was just brought into the game. First: the previous Engagement between Emily and Alex in their previous life around 1,000 years ago. The second Engagement will appear later. The Engagement is not between the MC and Emily.

 

[PPE2RedDucks]

Man alive! There are some knockers on here ... and I don't mean large breasts.

 

[PPE2RedDucks]

I didn't intend to please both sides, NTR and Harem. If we use the true meaning of cheating, cuckolding, NTR... there is only one scene that can be called an NTR scene: the MC peeped on Alex and Emily. The rest are not NTR at all. But I don't think this will help us go anywhere because people will say that I'm tricking them by saying that.
How Harem was brought into The Engagement was discussed earlier. At the moment, I don't intend to please NTR or Harem lovers. The Engagement will followed my plot.

The Engagement was just brought into the game. First: the previous Engagement of Emily and Alex in their previous life around 1,000 years ago. The second Engagement will be appeared later. The Engagement is not between the MC and Emily.

Cheers to you for the game, also for your forbearance and - however strained - massive patience.

 

[Captain Kitty]

I'm not a fan of NTR game but I understand what your point... Suzie isn't MC girl.... so even if she end up with other guy it isn't NTR...Unless you want Suzie then emily will end up with other guy which is NTR... Be patient dude...you cannot satisfy everyone... Just do your best to so that you will make a quality update... take it slow man

Yup, the story has just started. Only one engagement has appeared, but it's not the main engagement. The later will have the big impact in the game.

 

[Prokopije]

Same for Emily, since version 2.2.0, Emily only accepts Alex if she broke up with the MC before. That's not NTR at all. After considerating, I don't think this game has many cuckolded scenes like other NTR games.

You can produce more NTR there with not much effort. For example.
Now you have :
A: Emily XXX Alex at home - no chance to reconcile/break up with MC - MC lose Emily route
B: Emily XXX gang at party - no chance to reconcile/break up with MC - MC lose Emily route
C: faithful to Emily - emily love route
There are two paths with same outcome. They leads to Emily XXX Alex on island - as you said, no NTR, cause she broke up with MC.
You can make, for example:
A: Emily XXX Alex at home - chance to reconcile with proper explanation/but Emily got addicted to Alex cock and continues to fuck with him on island - Emily cheating route (type of NTR)
B: Emily XXX gang at party - no chance to reconcile/break up with MC - MC lose Emily route
C: faithful to Emily - emily love route
You can use same renders, with just slightly diferent text for A i B, and to have one more type of NTR present in game. Not to mention, you'll have harem. It will be Emilys harem, but still harem

 

[Captain Kitty]

Cheers to you for the game, also for your forbearance and - however strained - massive patience.

English is not my first language. Just googled what forbearance is. Thanks.

 

[JoleenStar]

You're doing good Dev. Don't let critics frustrate you.