VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Family Secret [Ep. 2 v0.1.2.2p] [Aorrta]

[GrandJury]

Don't understand some people. You go on full rage and write essay here(not only once, or twice...) how this game doesn't make any sense, how the story is crap, how everything about this game is shit, and not only that i saw some people who complain here, going on other games threads and complain about this game. I mean WTF! Son if you don't care about this game, and if you think the story is shit, and everything about this game is shit you wouldn't write essay here. Just leave this thread and ignore this game. Simple as that!
We should not even say that this is just a version v0.1

 

[User_215882]

Again this is a proof of concept. Something that shows potential donors what he can do and that he can deliver on the things people eventually want with porn games. Unfortunately he started a little late to the party. Had he released this when BB and DoD where getting started I have no doubt things would be different. Ill give you an example with DoD since Ive been with that game from the first episode. Episode one was the basic here is the renders and a brief outline for the game. Youre only lewd scene was with Mrs. Taylor and even then nothing really happens. But you know what Sin did? Each update presented a new character. Each update pushed the story. Each update left the player wanting more. Aorrta is just starting out in a market that is full of games and if he wants to make it he needs to show that he can deliver on the things people are willing to support. Clearly he is doing well on that front and depending on the first update, could continue to gather more support as he goes forward.

 

[AkitoH]

Don't understand some people. You go on full rage and write essay here(not only once, or twice...) how this game doesn't make any sense, how the story is crap, how everything about this game is shit, and not only that i saw some people who complain here, going on other games threads and complain about this game. I mean WTF! Son if you don't care about this game, and if you think the story is shit, and everything about this game is shit you wouldn't write essay here. Just leave this thread and ignore this game.

Relax. It's called constructive criticism.

 

[GrandJury]

Relax. It's called constructive criticism.

Giving your feedback about the game is ok. It's enough to say it once, dev will read your complaints, or suggestions and that's fine. But writing 10 comments in a row and saying the same shit over and over again is just stupid and for someone who doesn't like the game you look like an asshole (It doesn't apply to you, i don't even know who you are)

 

[AkitoH]

Again this is a proof of concept. Something that shows potential donors what he can do and that he can deliver on the things people eventually want with porn games. Unfortunately he started a little late to the party. Had he released this when BB and DoD where getting started I have no doubt things would be different. Ill give you an example with DoD since Ive been with that game from the first episode. Episode one was the basic here is the renders and a brief outline for the game. Youre only lewd scene was with Mrs. Taylor and even then nothing really happens. But you know what Sin did? Each update presented a new character. Each update pushed the story. Each update left the player wanting more. Aorrta is just starting out in a market that is full of games and if he wants to make it he needs to show that he can deliver on the things people are willing to support. Clearly he is doing well on that front and depending on the first update, could continue to gather more support as he goes forward.

Fair point. But regardless, I feel the first impression could've been handled cleaner.

If you are told to write a rough draft and finish one paragraph and decide to run it by your teacher and he/she criticizes it constructively, are you gonna look at him/her and say "it's a rough draft"? No, he/she knew that. If you're a diligent student, you'll go back with the advice at hand and work on making it better. That's all this is.

 

[AkitoH]

Giving your feedback about the game is ok. It's enough to say it once, dev will read your complains, or suggestions and that's fine. But writing 10 comments in a row and saying the same shit over and over again is just stupid and you look like an asshole (It doesn't apply to you, i don't even know who you are) for someone who doesn't like the game.

In my case, this is my first comment on the matter, just agreeing with the guy who happened to echo my issues with the demo at the moment. And I happen to like the game. I just feel the writing quirks are glaring. You can't expect all good things when you present your work to people. You're gonna get hit with criticism and it's not always gonna come from one mouth or one time only. That's a part of being a content creator. There's nothing malicious in that, as long as it's constructive.

 

[UncleVT]

Another fun fact: The only releases I played of BB and DmD were the first. Both went to the trash. I didn't liked them and not tried to convince all people that they were bad and everybody are wrong about it to keep my point of view.

 

[momojean]

all this shit discussion.....the update wasn't supposed to be out today? where is it? hope the dev isn't another scam :HeyGuys:

 

[Barioz]

@lesbiaN7ncest 's criticism is getting too much backlash. He has a point. Where I agree is that this demo has very little logic behind it's possible scenarios.

I don't believe he's trolling or hating. He's pointing out it's flaws at it's early stages. It's comparisons to other games are debatable. I'm not gonna pull the pin on that grenade. But the scenarios are really head scratching and void of necessary build up.

Example: You caress your mother, so either the passenger or the stewardess sees this and automatically has it in their mind to fuck you. No protection. No reason. No nothing. But you're a kinky teen who loves his mommy. That's literally it. It's all payoff with no buildup as he said.

Example 2: The passenger route has the opportunity to force her into anal sex (which is there why exactly? I don't know) and she acts surprised and angry by that. Why? She called an absolute stranger to fuck her, did she not? Did she not see this as one of many negative outcomes of inviting a stranger for sex? Then her boyfriend knocks him out and proceeds to lie for him instead of snitching about his attempted rape. What happens next? You get in the stewardess's panties. Mind you all that commotion should've alarmed the mom and the stewardess beforehand, but they were apparently nonexistent when it mattered.

Read example 2 clearly and show me the logic in that whole scenario.

I'm all for sex scenes in demo versions. But it could have made so much more sense. Like have the MC and his girlfriend have sex one last time before he and his mom go on the flight. Have them discuss the flight. Give them proper characterization. A proper foundation to build on later for later updates. Make it meaningful. Make it add something to the characters. There was none of that. You have sex with strangers after either caressing your mother as she slept or after attempted anal rape. All this while he has a girlfriend mind you and doesn't even question his actions if memory serves.

It's low, if not totally void of any actual characterization and logic in it's early stages. It quickly forces pussy and tits in your face without leaving much to the imagination nor any fulfillment whatsoever. Will this change, as everybody so adamantly claims it will? Only time will tell.

I do love it's presentation. But the writing has to at least be close to par, cause right now, the presentation is masking it's early writing flaws.

I don't get the reason of the debate. It's not like there weren't many different choices and ways to go. If all those sex with strangers scenes were not your cup of tea you can just be a good dude, massage your mother a bit and then have a lil naughty video call with your girlfriend. There was no forced sex scene or anything.

In fact, I think he did it pretty clever. Every route offered something to discover. He focused on just one location for the introduction and introduced a handful of characters that will most likely matter in the future. This first appetizer wasn't meant to cover an epic journey into the deepest depths of their personalities.

A good game should not overwhelm the player with too much information in too short time. Especially not a porn game.

 

[GrandJury]

In my case, this is my first comment on the matter, just agreeing with the guy who happened to echo my issues with the demo at the moment. And I happen to like the game. I just feel the writing quirks are glaring. You can't expect all good things when you present your work to people. You're gonna get hit with criticism and it's not always gonna come from one mouth or one time only. That's a part of being a content creator. There's nothing malicious in that, as long as it's constructive.

But repeating the same thing over and over again is just spamming this thread. Like you already said what you don't like about this game, there is no need to repeat the same thing 10 minutes later in another comment. Not only that people go from this thread in another games thread and speak shit about this game. That's FUCKED UP

 

[User_215882]

I get that but we don't know what kind of story he wants to do. Does he want a romance story like you see in MSN? A mystery sci-fi like DoD? A shitty drama like BB? Or a comedy? There isn't much to go off, but some people are treating this like it's a finished chapter one which it isn't.

 

[AkitoH]

But repeating the same thing over and over again is just spamming this thread. Like you already said what you don't like about this game, there is no need to repeat the same thing 10 minutes later in another comment. Not only that people go from this thread in another games thread and speak shit about this game. That's FUCKED UP

I hear you. Believe me. I'm in the BB thread every day going through the same endless cycle of harsh comments and debates in the last year. I just felt like I had to defend the guy who was criticizing the game because some of the points he made made sense to me. I don't want this to go totally off topic, so let's keep it about the game instead of the criticism.

 

[AkitoH]

I get that but we don't know what kind of story he wants to do. Does he want a romance story like you see in MSN? A mystery sci-fi like DoD? A shitty drama like BB? Or a comedy? There isn't much to go off, but some people are treating this like it's a finished chapter one which it isn't.

That could've been established in this version, don't you think? All that random sex could've been replaced with a mood to give us an idea of what to expect in future updates.

 

[User_215882]

Personally I hope for a romance comedy. There aren't many around which would help further differentiate itself from other games. It also seems like Aorrta is also aware of the patreon fiasco and is taking steps to ensure he stays which tells me he is already a responsible dev. Had he not made some changes that took time away from the release of the update it would have already been here.

 

[User_215882]

Again. You should view this as what it is. Yes it would help to establish the kind of story it wants to be, but you see many demos where you get almost nothing. Aorrta is showing players that he can pull off the content that matters most to people at the end. It's something common in the gaming community where you get 5 minutes of gameplay that shows the basic stuff and later on releases updates that beef up the story. This is all I am trying to express right now

 

[harucard23]

If you want people's money, at least you can do its released it on time.

I don't mind delay, just a bit of bitterness.

 

[AkitoH]

Personally I hope for a romance comedy. There aren't many around which would help further differentiate itself from other games. It also seems like Aorrta is also aware of the patreon fiasco and is taking steps to ensure he stays which tells me he is already a responsible dev. Had he not made some changes that took time away from the release of the update it would have already been here.

A romance comedy would be awesome.

 

[User_215882]

A romance comedy would be awesome.

I mean as much as I hate some romance films, my current gal got me hooked on romantic comedies. It's a guilty pleasure of mine just like I love b flicks like Sharknado.

 

[AkitoH]

Again. You should view this as what it is. This is all I am trying to express right now

Yes, I see what you're saying now. (After going back to the first page I see it says "Actual First Episode will be released at the end of January".) I didn't see that at first so I assumed this was the kind of first episode that all these games start off as. :coldsweat::coldsweat:

My bad. Now the review I put for the game earlier today looks stupid. okerFace:I'll take back the criticism for now, but if it turns out the first episode was just an extended version of these nonsensical scenarios I'll stand by what I said.

 

[AkitoH]

I mean as much as I hate some romance films, my current gal got me hooked on romantic comedies. It's a guilty pleasure of mine just like I love b flicks like Sharknado.

I always liked romantic comedies in any form of entertainment. Film, anime, manga, novel, etc. It calms my mind, especially if I'm a walking magnet for drama.

If this game is a romantic comedy, I'd gladly appreciate it. Seems like it will for the most part. I don't see much drama touching this game at all really.