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sdawg1234

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Wow the difference in the story if you're a perv or not when talking to Maria is something. Not your average vn on this site definitely more on the darker side. Looking forward to see how the game goes from here. good luck dev
 
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Saint Blackmoor

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Patreon doesn't lose money if they are seen supporting incest if they were seen supporting incest all that would happen would be that they would lose PayPal who is the one who forced Patreon to remove incest rape bestiality. All they would have to do is find a different provider to use instead.
I love it when the counterargument basically confirms the original statement. Patreon bowed down to Paypal.
 

Saint Blackmoor

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I love how F95 will delete my original post, but allow it to be reposted. maybe the sheriff is asleep at his desk. :p
My intent in the post was the inequity of restricting certain moral issues but not all moral issues.
 

Saint Blackmoor

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Which is false, since you can use Paypal with Steam and Steam has games with incest
Did you read the post that I was replying to? Also maybe Steam has clout with Paypal. Paypal my have a very large income stream from Steam and doesn't what to lose that. It all comes down to profits and shareholders. :cautious:
 

zubitex

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It's a fetish and it's not only hated one, get over it.
We all have different reasons for playing stuff, but I think most of us are clear that we engage in fiction mostly to escape the world a bit and relax in a different one.

At least my left foot morning growl made me understand.

Indeed i failed to get that people can engage in a porn game as in a fiction (the same you would do when you "enter" a book i guess).

When i play a side scroller where a japanese anime girl get raped by a purple tentacle i don't embody the character.
On the other hand, and as everyone, i recall some porn game that i ended playing more for the game itself (the scenario, ambiance..) than for the porn.

Finally, i played a lot of porn games with fetiches far from beeing mine however i didnt post to ask if thoses fetiches were going to be included or tryied to ask the game to be oriented towards my fetishes (no need to go as far as quoting some "ntr = evil").
I'm not even into NTR. I don't have any problem with the way people wanna play game or post to infulence devs.
The way i see devs is people using a lot of their time to entertain me, and i'm happy with what i get.

I never complained with the "ntr avoidable" , i just didnt get it and saw that as a strange hypocrisy. My mistake. If its a kink killer then it makes me wonder why it is more a kink killer than incest or beastiality (for what i see). But that would be my f... up questioning mind that need to go to bed.

No judgements, since its needed to be said each time.
 

_13_

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Wow the difference in the story if you're a perv or not when talking to Maria is something. Not your average vn on this site definitely more on the darker side. Looking forward to see how the game goes from here. good luck dev
I wasn't sure if anyone would even see that other route.
 
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sdawg1234

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I wasn't sure if anyone would even see that other route.
I picked up on it while talking to Lucy in the bedroom and noticed the different dialogue when I rolled backed and replayed the scene. Not sure if they will stay like that or not but it is nice to see the differences in the story based on your actions right from the start.
 

-CookieMonster666-

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I wasn't sure if anyone would even see that other route.
I will also, at some point, probably try that other route. I've just got tons on my plate right now, so replaying through routes in games takes me forever. I think right now I'm behind on easily over 20 games. :rolleyes:
 

Blargher

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I tried it out, I didn't see anything really bad to be getting hate for on my first playthrough. It's intriguing and likable character dynamic.

Though I see this thread blowing up so I was intrigued what could be the worst of these paths so picked every choice I considered the worst possible choices to make. The "Asshole" route so to speak. I also saw the change in dialogue with Maria there, not gonna be a route I continue much beyond to see where it leads at best. (seen 3 different end screens. The last one I saw led me to believe I picked the right choices in said Asshole route xD)

I can see this going great places but I can see this being too big of a project too for someone first timing into this. So hope you keep true to your ideas and keep at it. I can see you going places too.


Faults? Really nothing major. I see work put into it and until more story unfolds I can't really comment too much.

Yeah I agree with person that said Lucy smile can be that of nightmares. haha While I like her, and get she's goofy too I'm guessing that is like you said just you learning the renders and such. Nothing I can't look passed, way better than anything I could ever do. Part of why I've never done or attempted a renpy game is purely lack of graphical skill. lol

I get the feeling the sister likes you way too much out of the gate, but I'm guessing this could be explained with more backstory too. So I'll let that go too.


Overall, I'll keep an eye on it and curious where this will go.
 
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harsha_26

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That's not a contradiction. Again, Big John is not going to win the girls over. If you are hoping for or worried about Big John swooping in and convincing all or any of the girls to get it on, it isn't going to happen. He's also not going to trick them into having sex with him or blackmail them or whatever to take the girls.

Linda is not a girl, she's a grown ass woman with kids. She already has her reasons for letting Big John do things to her. Unless MC does something to change that, it could continue. Does she like it? No. Does she allow it to get what she wants from Big John? Yeah. Will it continue? Make the right fucking choices and it'll stop. Or, maybe you don't want it to stop. Make the choices for that. Will you see that shit going on? No, I don't think so. I don't want to say never, but I really can't think of the scenario where that scene would be necessary. So, NO, you won't see Big John fucking Linda.

Now, I'll admit that a lot of my wording is based on semantics because I know some things which have already been written, while not NTR, are close to it, but also avoidable.

Is there any straight up by the definition NTR? No. Will there be? No. Will another dick be shown? No. Will another dick smooth talk it's way, or trick it's way, into any of these lovely ladies? No. Will Big John go quietly into the night? No. Will Big John throw some punches? Yes, if you don't make the right choices.
Thankyou for saying Big John wont get Linda. And we wont see them fucking. I'm so worried because i'm a big fan of Milfs, particularly mom/son fetish. And not much interested in girls. And regarding those bad choices make john do some NTRish things? Well, if it is only minimum small content of the game, i dont see why to bother. Anyway, I have to see how it goes when we touch that barrier. Good Luck.

But I do hope there will be content between Linda and MC in a fast paced way compare to girls because of the story angle.
 
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SeveredRealms

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The story will only demand it if you write it. you are the story teller if you do not like or want it do not write it in a way that lets it happen.
Wanted to give you all a update to my original post about him saying the story tells him how to write it..... I just spent the last 4 hours writing my script.... Not once did it tell me how to write the story or to add something I didn't want....Just wanted to let ya know because I have anticipated my fingers to just type what my story tells them to but I am disappointed because it didn't happen.
 

harsha_26

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Wanted to give you all a update to my original post about him saying the story tells him how to write it..... I just spent the last 4 hours writing my script.... Not once did it tell me how to write the story or to add something I didn't want....Just wanted to let ya know because I have anticipated my fingers to just type what my story tells them to but I am disappointed because it didn't happen.
Yeah, Even i'm writing a Mom/Son story, that does have villains but wont touch Mom or any other side girls. There will be a "threat", but villains wont do anything that going to be worrysome for MC. I hate NTR and I agree with you that I cant think of a scene like that even in bad choices or bad paths.

Just because this game thread's dev said that we wont see a fucking scene between Mom & John even with bad choices, I thought of trying this game. But, yes, I'm still in fear about this game particularly with Linda.
 

SeveredRealms

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Yeah, Even i'm writing a Mom/Son story, that does have villains but wont touch Mom or any other side girls. There will be a "threat", but villains wont do anything that going to be worrysome for MC. I hate NTR and I agree with you that I cant think of a scene like that even in bad choices or bad paths.

Just because this game thread's dev said that we wont see a fucking scene between Mom & John even with bad choices, I thought of trying this game. But, yes, I'm still in fear about this game particularly with Linda.
It is starting to get to the point I do not even want to try a new game unless I know the dev from other games. too many of them either do not understand their audiences they are trying to get or just do not think ahead at all. Another game ohhhh there wasnt supposed to be ntr in my game i was just writing a side story and it just happened.... wtf...now I cant fix it... yea start at line X and delete to line Z and ohh look its gone now write the story you say you intended. . . .
 

Derp800

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I like the game and enjoy a dev who is able to tackle harder issues and darker themes without kowtowing to the mob. You're making this game, so make it the way you want it. I think it's very well done for a first little edition and I think the idea of allowing the MC to be who they want (pervy, innocent, a hard ass, evil) is the best of both worlds. I don't know why anyone would complain about options.

And for anyone wondering, I don't like NTR but I decided to look past the comments here freaking out over it only to discover a good start of a game with no NTR except maybe a tiny hint at it from the past that isn't even really shown, which was more of a show of character for one of the characters.

Honestly, if you don't like the themes of the games guys then you can just decide not to play. There's tons of games I don't play on here and I'm fine with not playing them because they just aren't my thing.
 
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