Shelscott50

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Thanks, funwithdickgirls, that warms my heart to hear :)

Perverted Education was a big inspiration for me - it’s a great erotic feminization game! I left a little easier egg winking at PE in my game’s latest update. Curious if anyone will find it :p
My Biggest problem, or annoyance with these type of games Is the MC's Bitching and Whining "I'm a boy!", "I'm a Man!".
(Obviously Not! or You wouldn't BE in THIS position).
"Shattered" and "The Good Son" Has the MC 'Accepting' and just "Going with it".
In "Perverted Education" I Can halfway understand it. The MC is Blackmailed by his teacher
To get the achievement you have to earn approval from both Todd and his parents at the ball.
So you are saying that MC needs to choose the Red Ball gown Todd's Mother picked out, give Todd 'road head', let Todd play with You at dinner, or You stroking him, go with Mom to bathroom and 'want' bigger Boobs, suck Todd off in coat closet, dance and be with Dad, give the parent's appropriate 'toast', and agree to be Dad's "playmate",...
 

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My Biggest problem, or annoyance with these type of games Is the MC's Bitching and Whining "I'm a boy!", "I'm a Man!".
(Obviously Not! or You wouldn't BE in THIS position).
"Shattered" and "The Good Son" Has the MC 'Accepting' and just "Going with it".
In "Perverted Education" I Can halfway understand it. The MC is Blackmailed by his teacher
I've realised some approaches appeal to people with a particular kink and appeals less to people who don't have it.

I stopped playing The Making of a Slut after a while because I got fed up that the MC couldn't find even one person who wanted a more healthy relationship than very dominating/abusive vs submissive/abused. I found that really unpleasant when the fourth (fifth?) relationship switched to being abusive too.

The only thing to do in that situation is walk on by and hope the next dev is more in tune with what works for you, because doubtless what isn't working for you is probably exactly what some other player enjoys the most.
 

SexyLump

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I've realised some approaches appeal to people with a particular kink and appeals less to people who don't have it.

I stopped playing The Making of a Slut after a while because I got fed up that the MC couldn't find even one person who wanted a more healthy relationship than very dominating/abusive vs submissive/abused. I found that really unpleasant when the fourth (fifth?) relationship switched to being abusive too.

The only thing to do in that situation is walk on by and hope the next dev is more in tune with what works for you, because doubtless what isn't working for you is probably exactly what some other player enjoys the most.
I think problem with these games that very often devs try to employ involuntary plot hooks and motivations to create essentially voluntary game. It often look very grotesque and inconsistent, I think I played only 1 truly unvoluntary game where other characters were kinda rapey toward MC, and I didn't like it a bit. But that's just me, i hate involuntary, other people might enjoy it, at least it would make sense plotwise with blackmail and coercing.
 
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I think problem with these games that very often devs try to employ involuntary plot hooks and motivations to create essentially voluntary game. It often look very grotesque and inconsistent, I think I played only 1 truly unvoluntary game where other characters were kinda rapey toward MC, and I didn't like it a bit. But that's just me, i hate involuntary, other people might enjoy it, at least it would make sense plotwise with blackmail and coercing.
This is one of my biggest problems with Perverted Education. It starts out really well and then bam, you are getting "raped". From the random dudes who have no problem raping a fellow student in the bathroom to the coach that you have to have an anal orgasm from, to the bf on the guardian path. It becomes rape city. Some might say it isn't rape but it is. my other problem is for awhile it was forced M/M content, thankfully the shemale option was added later but the bigger rape problem still remains.
 

SexyLump

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This is one of my biggest problems with Perverted Education. It starts out really well and then bam, you are getting "raped". From the random dudes who have no problem raping a fellow student in the bathroom to the coach that you have to have an anal orgasm from, to the bf on the guardian path. It becomes rape city. Some might say it isn't rape but it is. my other problem is for awhile it was forced M/M content, thankfully the shemale option was added later but the bigger rape problem still remains.
Gotta say I consider PE quite overrated. I'm not sure what's the reason its so highly acclaimed and used as a blueprint for every sissification game there is, probably cause it was first. As for text game, writing in PE is kinda meh, at least they got actual writers working on cheerleading route, that arc isn't bad. Gameplay is tedious and repetitive too, and don't let me started on dev tempo, our Lobsterboy doing more than their whole team of dev montly.
 

Shelscott50

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I've realised some approaches appeal to people with a particular kink and appeals less to people who don't have it.

I stopped playing The Making of a Slut after a while because I got fed up that the MC couldn't find even one person who wanted a more healthy relationship than very dominating/abusive vs submissive/abused. I found that really unpleasant when the fourth (fifth?) relationship switched to being abusive too.

The only thing to do in that situation is walk on by and hope the next dev is more in tune with what works for you, because doubtless what isn't working for you is probably exactly what some other player enjoys the most.
LOL! I AGREE with You! I have No problem with control (Master/Mistress) paradigm. I see No Need for Dom to ALWAYS be abusive and Sadistic. Why can't it be more teacher/student? Why can't the Dom be more Advisor/"guidance councilor"; be More Supportive to Sub.? Especially in the beginning/training stage.
"You can attract More Bees with Honey, than with Vinegar/Acid."
This IS My Opinion, but the Dom Should be More concerned about developing TRUST with the Sub, than Power and control. When the Sub Trusts his/her Dom; he/she will be More compliant. More willing to be more obedient.
Your Sub, if hesitant/resistant, would be More willing to comply with compliments & rewards, than humiliation, degradation.
THAT does Not Mean that Sub should Not be punished for disobedience or non-compliance. By all mean, punish them.
IF All The Dom WANTS to do Is 'to get off' By being Cruel & Sadistic (Power trip) to their Sub,... 'You are in the Wrong line of work'.

I KNOW that I am going to Catch Hell for this; but I Don't Give a Shit!!
 

SexyLump

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LOL! I AGREE with You! I have No problem with control (Master/Mistress) paradigm. I see No Need for Dom to ALWAYS be abusive and Sadistic. Why can't it be more teacher/student? Why can't the Dom be more Advisor/"guidance councilor"; be More Supportive to Sub.? Especially in the beginning/training stage.
"You can attract More Bees with Honey, than with Vinegar/Acid."
This IS My Opinion, but the Dom Should be More concerned about developing TRUST with the Sub, than Power and control. When the Sub Trusts his/her Dom; he/she will be More compliant. More willing to be more obedient.
Your Sub, if hesitant/resistant, would be More willing to comply with compliments & rewards, than humiliation, degradation.
THAT does Not Mean that Sub should Not be punished for disobedience or non-compliance. By all mean, punish them.
IF All The Dom WANTS to do Is 'to get off' By being Cruel & Sadistic (Power trip) to their Sub,... 'You are in the Wrong line of work'.

I KNOW that I am going to Catch Hell for this; but I Don't Give a Shit!!
You won't catch hell for this, cause that's how real life BDSM relationships work. Coercing, abusing, blackmailing, deceiving can be found only in porn games/videos and very unhealthy relationships. Real BDSM entusiasts frown on all those thing and will never do any of them. On the other hand I'm not exactly sure why everyone likes to describe such abusive relationships in games, there are millions of them, while people are starved for gentler femdom with "mommy" archetype doms.
 
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Lobsterman9999

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and don't let me started on dev tempo, our Lobsterboy doing more than their whole team of dev montly.
The trick is to not sleep! :p

I can’t speak for other devs. I hope I can keep this development pace up until The Good Son is complete. I find what helps me, especially since I’m so new to Twine, is to keep it simple. If you open the game file up, you’ll find that it’s held together with duct tape and chicken wire - that is, the coding is VERY basic. Passages, links, embedded images, lots of clever if-statements, lots of variables keeping track of progress in the background... and that’s it!

This helps me because I’m rarely ‘coding.’ Most of my time is spent working on things players see. As in writing content, building scenes, choosing just the right image. So, keeping it all simple / achievable for a first Twine helps me move at an okay pace.

I look at Female Agent, and I see so much promise, and I love what Crushstation is building, but it is wildly ambitious, and all those background revisions mean players are left waiting. Lots of work, but not much to show for it (for now - I have faith in what’s to come for that game).

I do wish I had a cleaner, less-clunky, easier to use inventory System (I love PE’s inventory). I have some great ideas for my next game (once The Good Son is complete). It will definitely have a better UI and a cleaner inventory system.
 
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SexyLump

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I do wish I had a cleaner, less-clunky, easier to use inventory System (I love PE’s inventory). I have some great ideas for my next game (once The Good Son is complete). It will definitely have a better UI and a cleaner inventory system.
Don't forget better fitting name :ROFLMAO:
 

Shelscott50

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The trick is to not sleep! :p

I can’t speak for other devs. I hope I can keep this development pace up until The Good Son is complete. I find what helps me, especially since I’m so new to Twine, is to keep it simple. If you open the game file up, you’ll find that it’s held together with duct tape and chicken wire - that is, the coding is VERY basic. Passages, links, embedded images, lots of clever if-statements, lots of variables keeping track of progress in the background... and that’s it!

This helps me because I’m rarely ‘coding.’ Most of my time is spent working on things players see. As in writing content, building scenes, choosing just the right image. So, keeping it all simple / achievable for a first Twine helps me move at an okay pace.

I look at Female Agent, and I see so much promise, and I love what Crushstation is building, but it is wildly ambitious, and all those background revisions mean players are left waiting. Lots of work, but not much to show for it (for now - I have faith in what’s to come for that game).

I do wish I had a cleaner, less-clunky, easier to use inventory System (I love PE’s inventory). I have some great ideas for my next game (once The Good Son is complete). It will definitely have a better UI and a cleaner inventory system.
Just out of curiosity, when will "the Good Son" be completed? How many more 'Chapter's' updates remaining?
I Will be sad :cry: when this game is 'completed', but enjoy replaying; taking different routes/choices for MC.

(One Of the 1st games I started playing is "Freeloading Family"; I was/am very into the Character development storyline. Now, the Dev has in My Opinion, reached a pre-mature ending; If not what I consider to be a "Cop out" Ending.
The Game has/had so Many possibilities/directions to go.)
The Same thing happened with "The Visit".

Do You already have plans for your Next Game in mind?
 

Lobsterman9999

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Just out of curiosity, when will "the Good Son" be completed? How many more 'Chapter's' updates remaining?
I Will be sad :cry: when this game is 'completed', but enjoy replaying; taking different routes/choices for MC.

(One Of the 1st games I started playing is "Freeloading Family"; I was/am very into the Character development storyline. Now, the Dev has in My Opinion, reached a pre-mature ending; If not what I consider to be a "Cop out" Ending.
The Game has/had so Many possibilities/directions to go.)
The Same thing happened with "The Visit".

Do You already have plans for your Next Game in mind?
I’m not sure how many more updates it will take, but the story won’t just meander for ever. The main plot (saving your dad) will build up and then be resolved. There will be different ways to resolve it based on your decisions and the status of your relationship with key characters. There will be multiple different ‘super endings’ based on how things turned out. After that, I’ll add some more side content and polish to round if off... and then it’s complete! :)

So, lots to go, but I hope The Good Son won’t overstay its welcome.

I have ideas for the next game. Nothing so concrete that I’d call it a plan. I’ll connect with my Patrons as The Good Son wraps up and see which idea for the next game that they would like best.
 

GTCK

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This is probably one of the best games out here, great job friend ! However, i saw that the version on the TFgames site is 0.3.1, is there any difference from the version here ?
 

SexyLump

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I’m not sure how many more updates it will take, but the story won’t just meander for ever. The main plot (saving your dad) will build up and then be resolved. There will be different ways to resolve it based on your decisions and the status of your relationship with key characters. There will be multiple different ‘super endings’ based on how things turned out. After that, I’ll add some more side content and polish to round if off... and then it’s complete! :)

So, lots to go, but I hope The Good Son won’t overstay its welcome.

I have ideas for the next game. Nothing so concrete that I’d call it a plan. I’ll connect with my Patrons as The Good Son wraps up and see which idea for the next game that they would like best.
Oh, so you mean no horizontal scaling till main plot is done? That's sad :cry:
 

Lobsterman9999

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This is probably one of the best games out here, great job friend ! However, i saw that the version on the TFgames site is 0.3.1, is there any difference from the version here ?
Thanks, GTCK! The only differences between v0.3 and v0.3.1 are some small bug fixes and text fixes. No need to download v0.3.1 if you already have v0.3, but the two versions are save compatible, so go ahead

Oh, so you mean no horizontal scaling till main plot is done? That's sad :cry:
Hey SexyLump! That’s what I mean. Horizontal scaling will occur throughout. I do expect to add some side content once the ‘ending’ has been reached, as well.

v0.4 will have a greater focus on horizontal scaling than vertical scaling, I expect

So is the whole game linear or are there some actual choices?
The game has a fair deal of small choices and a few large choices. There are not entirely distinct paths, or anything like that, but the path will vary based on the choices you make. Give it and shot and you’ll see :)
 
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Thanks, GTCK! The only differences between v0.3 and v0.3.1 are some small bug fixes and text fixes. No need to download v0.3.1 if you already have v0.3, but the two versions are save compatible, so go ahead



Hey SexyLump! That’s what I mean. Horizontal scaling will occur throughout. I do expect to add some side content once the ‘ending’ has been reached, as well.

v0.4 will have a greater focus on horizontal scaling than vertical scaling, I expect



The game has a fair deal of small choices and a few large choices. There are not entirely distinct paths, or anything like that, but the path will vary based on the choices you make. Give it and shot and you’ll see :)
Any timeline on when v0.4 will be released?
 

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I don't know if I'm stuck or not , but there is no choices on the page (( I don't know if I'm missing something ))
its in the university it says....

" You head to your Feminization Class, curious as to what Ms. Domina has in store for you today. When you arrive, Becky and
Rachel are already at their seats. "

Also " Ms. Domina soon arrives, pulling off her robe and revealing her slutty outfit. "

And lastly " "Dildos out, girls. We have a lot to cover, today." "

is this an indicator that I reached the end of this Update ?
thank you .

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I don't know if I'm stuck or not , but there is no choices on the page (( I don't know if I'm missing something ))
its in the university it says....

" You head to your Feminization Class, curious as to what Ms. Domina has in store for you today. When you arrive, Becky and
Rachel are already at their seats. "

Also " Ms. Domina soon arrives, pulling off her robe and revealing her slutty outfit. "

And lastly " "Dildos out, girls. We have a lot to cover, today." "

is this an indicator that I reached the end of this Update ?
thank you .

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No. I don't Think so,... It Goes ON from there.
I have Already played thru this part once before,...

I Have Your ANSWER,.. I Think, but I Cannot Screenshot this page,..
(how did you do that?)
 
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