RPGM Abandoned The Humbling Experience [v0.32] [Greyinu]

[zarqupang]

that's true. i alway's thought that if you worked on each person one at a time it would work but then there are those who can't wait for a good thing. lol

 

[Fanatic Vortex]

That game was definitely not getting the attention and support it deserved, a real shame. One of few developers I didn't regret supporting.

I feel that had the game been on ren'py it would have gotten a bigger following even though I believe the bad reputation RPGM has in the adult gaming community is quite undeserved or at least exaggerated. Many players will skip a game just because it's on rpgm and will miss out on a great game just because they only want to play on ren'py.

The characters, the writing, the slow but steady progression in the action, the teasing and the perversion of our favourite teacher were top notch. It's also heartbreaking that the dev disappeared right when the action was getting more serious.
One of the downsides is that he may have introduced too many characters (some with very similar profiles) and the scope of the game became overwhelming for a dev working alone...

From what you described even if he had the support and money it would be unlikely he would have succeded,it was also a problem of organization,he overextended himself and I cant be sure but he might have refused to work with others on this game,once again this wouldnt be fixed by money.
All in all him abandoning the community without as much as a farewell message and that he milked the dead cow to its last drop makes me think he didnt deserve the support either.

 

[TheLecher]

All in all him abandoning the community without as much as a farewell message and that he milked the dead cow to its last drop makes me think he didnt deserve the support either.

Abandoning the game without any announcement, never letting his supporters know what was going on, keeping the billing turned on - those are all bad things. But I would say that the question of whether or not he deserved the support is actually just a question of whether or not you enjoyed the game. If you enjoyed it and wanted more, then he deserved your support, up until the time he disappeared without warning.

 

[Fanatic Vortex]

Abandoning the game without any announcement, never letting his supporters know what was going on, keeping the billing turned on - those are all bad things. But I would say that the question of whether or not he deserved the support is actually just a question of whether or not you enjoyed the game. If you enjoyed it and wanted more, then he deserved your support, up until the time he disappeared without warning.

Your not wrong but like I said i think its more important how the dev interacts and treats his community more than the game itself,assholes shouldnt be supported that just sets a bad precedent and almost never ends well,I saw such cases before.

 

[zarqupang]

true my brother backed a game on kick starter and him and all the people that gave them money ended up loseing it because the people ran with there money and did jack. why ass hats make good game then screw people over is beyond me. could have probly made more if had finished the game i think.

 

[Fanatic Vortex]

true my brother backed a game on kick starter and him and all the people that gave them money ended up loseing it because the people ran with there money and did jack. why ass hats make good game then screw people over is beyond me. could have probly made more if had finished the game i think.

Here is the case of laziness or bandit mentality,as you said he would need to FINISH the game which would take effort and time and probably the creator(s) wasnt very fond of work,its easier to just take the money for "free"

 

[zarqupang]

true but then people start to not trues dev's that much lol

 

[Fanatic Vortex]

true but then people start to not trues dev's that much lol

What is your point? Those that run off with the money dont care about trust or others.

 

[zarqupang]

yea i know but if they do that what makes people think that other dev's won't do the same thing. that's why i have a hard time trusting if i would give them money for there games.

 

[Fanatic Vortex]

yea i know but if they do that what makes people think that other dev's won't do the same thing. that's why i have a hard time trusting if i would give them money for there games.

Thats why I never pay before (or pre-order as kids call it) because there is litterary no guarantee,even less so with h-games,do those people not know what their getting into? Guess it must be the fact that many here are degenerates,else i cant explain how you can be that ignorant to the many examples of scamming.

Personally I believe if someone wants to finish a game he will do it with or without any sponsoring.

 

[TheLecher]

Personally I believe if someone wants to finish a game he will do it with or without any sponsoring.

This is ridiculous. Do you have any idea how much some of these developers spend on assets? Assuming that the developer isn't a thief, and doesn't steal assets, they pay for 3D models, props, environments, and a lot of other assets for the artwork. If they don't want to use the default music, sound effects, sprites, and tile sets which come with RPG Maker, then they also have to pay for all of those things. Some of them pay for voice acting. Some developers, like Belle, who developed Long Live the Princess, literally put hundreds and hundreds of dollars into making the game.

And then there's the amount of time which they have to put into it. One update can easily take more than 100 hours to complete. Do you think that they would work 100 hours at their regular job without pay? Then why would they give up 100 hours of their precious free time - time which they could be spending with family and friends - to slave over a game which half of the people on this forum will only steal and then complain about? Who on earth would be crazy enough to do all of that for free?

You guys who refuse to pay money to support the development of these games would never have any adult games to freeload off of, if it weren't for those of us who understand how much work actually goes into some of these games. If it weren't for people like myself and others who actually put our money down to support the games we like, most of these games would never get past the second or third update.

 

[itsyeboii]

This is ridiculous. Do you have any idea how much some of these developers spend on assets? Assuming that the developer isn't a thief, and doesn't steal assets, they pay for 3D models, props, environments, and a lot of other assets for the artwork. If they don't want to use the default music, sound effects, sprites, and tile sets which come with RPG Maker, then they also have to pay for all of those things. Some of them pay for voice acting. Some developers, like Belle, who developed Long Live the Princess, literally put hundreds and hundreds of dollars into making the game.

And then there's the amount of time which they have to put into it. One update can easily take more than 100 hours to complete. Do you think that they would work 100 hours at their regular job without pay? Then why would they give up 100 hours of their precious free time - time which they could be spending with family and friends - to slave over a game which half of the people on this forum will only steal and then complain about? Who on earth would be crazy enough to do all of that for free?

You guys who refuse to pay money to support the development of these games would never have any adult games to freeload off of, if it weren't for those of us who understand how much work actually goes into some of these games. If it weren't for people like myself and others who actually put our money down to support the games we like, most of these games would never get past the second or third update.

I'm a full freeloader, I will never pay for porn. But that doesn't mean I don't apreciate the patrons who keep these games running and the donors on this site giving me access for free I have to disagree with the whole "if you don't pay, you have no right to critisize" though. I hear this way too much and it doesn't make sense.

 

[itsyeboii]

Thats why I never pay before (or pre-order as kids call it) because there is litterary no guarantee,even less so with h-games,do those people not know what their getting into? Guess it must be the fact that many here are degenerates,else i cant explain how you can be that ignorant to the many examples of scamming.

Personally I believe if someone wants to finish a game he will do it with or without any sponsoring.

You can personally believe whatever you want but if these developers wouldn't get paid, none of them would keep making their games. It simply takes waaay too much time, effort and money to do it for free.

Him abandoning this game without saying anything isn't a scam by the way. Its literally just saying "fuck it" and not look back at it again because he didn't get enough support for the work he was doing, while getting some left over money from his unknowing patrons. It's a shitty thing to do, he shouldn't have played with people's trust and money so nonchalantely, but he wasn't making patreon posts saying he is working on it, but actually taking advantage of gullible people like Gumdrop does with Dual Family, or Icstor with Milfy City, both games I like.

 

[Belle]

Some developers, like Belle, who developed Long Live the Princess, literally put hundreds and hundreds of dollars into making the game.

Make that thousands. Many thousands. Before I even published the first version of the game. And I have kept investing and investing ever since. This shit is more expensive than most players realize, and developers often take a huge risk by putting their savings into starting a new game project (I know I did) with the vague hope that someone will help support them.

From what I understand, my Patreon campaign was unusually successful very quickly, and even then, it took me half a year to break even.

 

[zarqupang]

i was not saying it was not money costing i am just saying how do you know who you can tust with who you can't trust. there are those who would scam people with very little in come and not really care because it makes them money. not saying ever on is like that but again hard to say who is on the level. i like games that are her i now that alot of time and money go in to them. i also do now how hard they work but scammers will alway's make me doudt if some one is on the level are not.

 

[TheLecher]

i was not saying it was not money costing i am just saying how do you know who you can tust with who you can't trust. there are those who would scam people with very little in come and not really care because it makes them money. not saying ever on is like that but again hard to say who is on the level. i like games that are her i now that alot of time and money go in to them. i also do now how hard they work but scammers will alway's make me doudt if some one is on the level are not.

Unless the developer already has an established good reputation, you can't know beforehand who is trustworthy and who isn't. If you like a game a lot, and you want to see it continue, the thing to do is pledge some support. The vast majority of developers offer different levels at which you can pledge. Some of them take monthly pledges as small as $1 per month. If you aren't confident in the developer yet, just pledge the smallest possible amount. And then, if they turn out to be unreliable, you've lost the least amount possible, and you cancel your pledge. And if they prove to be dependable, you can increase your pledge later, as you feel comfortable, and as you feel able to afford it. Or even stay at the lower amount. A developer would rather have some support than none at all.

Also, even the unreliable developers aren't necessarily running a scam. They may not have realized what they were getting into. Some people begin trying to develop a game, then, after several months, they realize that they're in way over their heads, and they give up. It doesn't have to be a plan to scam people out of their money.

Yes, there are some scammers. But I don't think that the majority of the developers are con artists.

 

[tulfo]

Android port?

 

[TheVengefulOne]

What are you all on about. Not enough support?

While I do agree that the game suffered somewhat due to it being in RPGM and I spoke with greyinu quite a few times about that.

For the time this was made in, it was making a decent amount of money. Around a 1000$ at least from what I remember as I was a supporter at the time.

All he needed to do was hold out for half a year or a year more, if support was the problem and it would've skyrocketed.

 

[madcunce]

can someone send me a save for just before you enter the nightclub? i tried to talk to harmke but when the dialog finished there was an npc blocking my way and it hasnt moved in 5 minutes,

 

[zetsupetsu]

Does anyone have a save where the renpy port left off? I just found out the renpy version was incomplete and wanted to continue in the rpgm version.