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PaganWarlord

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I can only wish you luck, and good fortune to be spared from woes of over-engineering solutions.
Personally I shiver at the though of building custom engine due to amount of useful features I would have to take time to build into it, and the dread of changing anything later on just to witness a domino effect of broken dependencies, but if it works out for you it will probably be great, especially if the integration with Live2D can be done.
 

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how to find and arrest the criminal in stage 5??
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, he won't show up if the red flag is active. Activate the blue flag, and he should show up eventually. It has been a while since I played that part, though, so let me know how it goes.
 
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But he told me there were a lot of idea's he wanted to do but couldn't because the engine is just so limiting. Even just the dialog system is very limiting. I've been rewriting dialog all day today trying to make my own submod to PCP.
Somewhat, but not quite. Wolf Editor (engine) is not too limiting. The issue lies in scripts that actually have to do with game mechanics being in a different language and how tough it is to orient yourself to find out what does what. Once you get a hook you can just focus on the numeric values, but you need to stare at it for a while.
Anyone who has some program experience, picture what it would be like if all variables had indistinguishable names when you look at the script. That's the main issue.
As it is, I'm working on an extended dialogue entry but I will say no more.
 

Oni-Zero

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There is no extra content story wise after finishing the main plot. Either you enjoyed the main game play loop and want to have some more fun or you didn't. The base game changed a bit from 1.2.1 to 1.4.2 so it might be worth revisiting in itself.

I don't think it is reasonable (or possible) to expand the gameplay elements of this game at this point since even if it was possible it would overwrite many of game core systems meaning every single small patch will break such mod/mods and it will be a pain in the rear to fix each and every time, and the base "vanilla" game is still being worked on by developer, although slowly.

The best thing we have now - PCP improves translation, graphics, uncensor, both common and unique character roster, number of possible different characters per stage and clothing options. Honestly it seems to be near the limit of what can reasonably be done with this game, at least for now.

For any more extensive changes it might be even "easier" to recreate the whole game, make a spiritual successor if you will.
The was one madman who teased us with such concept, but I'll not mention him directly to not put any pressure on him since we haven't heard any news recently and it is a huge and complex undertaking so it would be understandable to waver when trying to tackle it.
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Agree with literally everything you said. And I'm the madman PaganWarlord mentioned.

Though if you haven't played story since 1.21 there is some minor new story stuff with Chrisia, but just load an old save to see the few new scenes put in.

With the PCP mod though yeah it's worth a replay. Procrastinatus tried as much as was possible with the engine limitations to let this game live up to it's potential. There are a bunch of new story characters that have a character arc that plays out each time you visit them in a new level, they get new costumes and you find more info on them. But he told me there were a lot of idea's he wanted to do but couldn't because the engine is just so limiting. Even just the dialog system is very limiting. I've been rewriting dialog all day today trying to make my own submod to PCP. One such thing I wanted to do what have NPC's make a custom comment if the player has previously sent someone out nude before. But it's not possible, the game can't really remember things like that. The game doesn't really check a lot of things so it's hard to tie events together. So I've resorted to doing simpler one off situations.

Here this is the editor, specifically the dialog section. I'm in the process of working on a scene where Chrisia enters the room during level 4 screaming that a beastman attacked her and stole her pants, and she wants to pass through to rush to the barracks to grab a spare pair of pants, but the player can tell her to just finish her shift with her ass in the nude and she has to accept this since the player is a higher rank. I wanted there to be more interaction and argument but so little is possible.

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This editor was in moonrunes until Procrastinatus released a partially translated version the other day with his mod. So it's fantastic we can use it now, but even then it's so limited by design. As you can see you can't even see all the dialog I've written for each box, just one line at a time, then if you click you can see the dialog in the window below. And it's just editing strings, you can't add new strings or get them to reference each other. This is why I do want to make a spiritual successor game that's much more robust and moddable.


I'm still working on it but I kinda regret speaking about it too much earlier, I didn't realize how hard and complex it would be and how long it would take to develop. It definitely wont be done until late next year at the earliest. So PCP and Tengstens updates will have to suffice until then.

At the moment my programmer friend is just writing the engine out to be capable of a massively expanded dialog, tag and events system. We were using Godot before but abandoned it because we hit the engine limitations of that and my programmer said it was getting very frustrating to use. He said he'd prefer to write his own engine from scratch, but said it would take 6-9 months to complete. Though I did have some art assets drawn up and put in the Godot alpha build. But haven't been commissioning any new art recently, just fully focusing on making sure the engine is 100% working now before I pay for any more art being done. I asked him to make sure the engine is as open and moddable as possible too, and he's going to try and make it have a built in load order functionality so that mods can just stack on top of each other.
Sadly that's the drawback for games that force the engine to work in ways that were not meant to and unity games are a hit or miss for me, there are some games, like the dating sim based on the iron giant that have less content that even an intro with an art quality which is at least better that Sarada Trainig: The last war but it demands a lot of RAM, like running "Custom maid 3D 2" two or three times at once, on the other hand there are games like Pony Waifu Sim which have a borderline proof of concept in terms of content yet the folder could easily be as large as 8+gb, Cloud Meadow also fits the bill, although it does have more content.
 
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Shipfu

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Live2d is nice and all but it takes a lot of programming and time for the authors if they aren't used to use it. Just look at Stick Jumps game Alice Awakening.
So updates will take a while, but the animations man, it gives the game so much life.
Anyways think most of us are grown up with the pixel porn game art from the 90s anyways.
Good old nocturnal illusions and True love xD.
 

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, he won't show up if the red flag is active. Activate the blue flag, and he should show up eventually. It has been a while since I played that part, though, so let me know how it goes.
so i removed both flags but i will try to set just the blue flag and i will tell u what goes on
 
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Mandalore777

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Update on Cien from Tengsten. Looks like next update will be sooner and bigger than we thought.



He's aiming for early November. I know Procrastinatus is still working on some things that didn't get into the first release of PCP. So maybe he can wait until after Tengsten's 1.50 is out then update PCP for that next month with his new stuff, instead of drip feeding updates every few days. I'm worried he'll burn himself out.

Here's the patch list.
  • Added Hana's date event.
    Hana event of stage 2 has been viewed, and it occurs in stage 1 after clearing the main story.
  • Hana's new outfit and new hairstyle have been added.
  • Hana's special pose has been added so that it can be inserted while wearing clothes.
  • "Subordinate call command" was added to the main story and sandbox.
    You can call Krissha and Rihart and have them attend work.
  • Adjusted the sandbox menu to increase the options available.
  • Adjusted the mode guide and guide in the sandbox.
  • An event will now occur when you call the fortune-teller Sibyl in the sandbox.
  • If a character with an exhibitionism appears and the naked effect does not occur,
    the probability of the naked effect will increase slightly. (Probability is initialized when it appears)
  • If a enslaved character has an exhibitionist habit, it will now appear naked with a high probability.
  • A special effect was added to stage 4.
    A woman of Sylvaer nationality is raped by a guard when she passes with her genitals exposed.
  • Added a special effect to the outdoor map of the sandbox.
    Regardless of nationality, if a woman passes by with her genitals exposed, she will be raped by a guard.
  • The recollection menu of the main game has been revised to make it easier to move pages.
  • Time has not passed during special effects such as option display.
  • The hidden command is described in the attached text.
  • Bug fix
    Some mouseover instructions are incorrect when inserting a butt hole
    Stage 2 Krissha's advice, armed permit expiration date is incorrect Some training events
    that cause an error in the underwear line
    Middle, Krissha's turning motion is not processed correctly
    Adjustment of undressing judgment of some characters
    Other adjustment of fine production

Sounds great to be honest. I'm excited to see what the Subordinate call command is, also Hana getting a clothes on sex model is great. I just hope he does Olivea next.

Also an updated Sandbox is good. I wish I could select characters with a drop down menu instead of scrolling through them all, so many characters now in PCP version it takes too long to get to the one you want sometimes.
 

thevoid089

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Oh good, I can't wait to play with all that new content and system...This game really are the best from Tengsten
 

Shipfu

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Oh good, I can't wait to play with all that new content and system...This game really are the best from Tengsten
Just wonder when they will finish the game so people can mod it in peace knowing the game is finished.

They released Anekasegi in may 8 2015 and did their last update august 26 2016,
around 10 months of life.

Dungeon Repeater: The Tale of Adventurer Vera was released december 21 2016 and
last update may 12 2018, 1 year and 6 months of life.

TIGK was released may 28 2019 and the next update will be this november,
around 1 year and 6 months of life.

TIGK will be their game with the longest lifespan til now,
but they want to make a new game now and stop updating this game.
 

thevoid089

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Just wonder when they will finish the game so people can mod it in peace knowing the game is finished.

They released Anekasegi in may 8 2015 and did their last update august 26 2016,
around 10 months of life.

Dungeon Repeater: The Tale of Adventurer Vera was released december 21 2016 and
last update may 12 2018, 1 year and 6 months of life.

TIGK was released may 28 2019 and the next update will be this november,
around 1 year and 6 months of life.

TIGK will be their game with the longest lifespan til now,
but they want to make a new game now and stop updating this game.
Somehow I'm expecting this game would have a few more updates, maybe at least up to ver 2.0 before the developer truly move on to a new game. This game maybe gain the favor because of main game like Paper, please thus lure lot of fans and selling very well, make the developer to put more stuff to lure more fans and making more money from them
 
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