Shit sorry I thought this was Echoes of Lust thread lol…I have no idea about this one.
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Hahaha You really unleashed a big storm XD.
Now, let's be clear with the following points (they will fill me with facepalm but it is the truth)
1.- The dev already made it 100% clear that NOBODY is going to touch the MC's family more than himself and that he is going to have sex with most (all?) The women of the island, in other words, it DOESN'T GO HAVE NTR.
2.- YES, the girls already have a partner (boyfriend, husband) and YES, the girls are going to have sex with them (as is normal in a relationship), this game IS NOT A ROMANCE GAME, the MC is not going to engage a beautiful relationship with one of the girls (maybe only with his family), THIS IS ONLY GOING TO BE SEX WITHOUT MORE.
3.- The dev already took this path and he likes it, if the others it is not very simple, do not play it and voila.
The same is always the case with extremes in this forum:
Those who love ntr (extreme) cry because there are no scenes or want the dev to change everything just to put those scenes.
Those who hate ntr (extreme) cry because a random npc touched the hand of one of the MC girls and now that is ntr.
This game is not NTR, it cannot even be considered swinging as the MC is not going to share anything (his family is safe) and he is only going to enjoy other's girls.
Too bad it's always the same shit on this forum.
F.Lord Good luck with your game.
Firstly I think this developer is one of the bests in adult game scene as a whole. For this game tho: I honestly don't like swinging, sharing or voyeur content at all if it involves other man than mc. I have no interest seeing other dudes fucking girls even that girls aren't mc's love interests. I feel like it's waste of development time which can be used for scenes for mc and girls. Unless that scenes (sharing, swinging.,voyeur) happens only for once or twice and that's because it's important for plot and world building.. If that kind of scenes doesn't appear later on the game and it was just for introduction part of the story but not theme of the game, I'm kinda fine with it. Harem Hotel has a scene like this for elf slaves and it happened only for once. It was for the plot. I didn't like it back then either but I understand why the dev did it and it never happened again anyways. For group sex: I like group sex only when mc plus girls and no other dicks involved. I also like girl on girl lesbian fun between MC's girls as well. So I'm totally on board if mc's girls decides have fun with eachother while MC is watching 
I thought F.Lord is a huge vanilla fan so I was quite shocked when I see other dude banging a girl really really close to mc and the girl who give mc a hj in the screenshot But people who feared that there will be NTR in this game, I really don't think there will be NTR. This dev is not into NTR and people who play his games isn't into NTR either. Also dev already stated that nobody will touch MC's love interest so there won't be sharing-swinging with love interests either. Maybe other guys share their girls with us and we probably see side chicks fucking other guys. Again I still don't like that kind of content at all but it's what it is I guess
I thought F.Lord is a huge vanilla fan so I was quite shocked when I see other dude banging a girl really really close to mc and the girl who give mc a hj in the screenshot
But people who feared that there will be NTR in this game, I really don't think there will be NTR. This dev is not into NTR and people who play his games isn't into NTR either. Also dev already stated that nobody will touch MC's love interest so there won't be sharing-swinging with love interests either. Maybe other guys share their girls with us and we probably see side chicks fucking other guys. Again I still don't like that kind of content at all but it's what it is I guess
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I'm almost 100% sure that there will be romance . F.Lord doesn't make mindless fuckfests games where everybody are just fuckbuddies and there is no emotions at all. He is also good at writing romance as well. Also he literally stated that there are love interests. Yeah mom and sis already are love interests but maybe there will be more love interests which they will be exclusive to mc too. Remember there is a village which only woman lives. Some girls from there can fall in love with mc and mc can fall in love with them too. It's a possibilty
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Thank you F.Lord for the new creativity. I used to really enjoy Dark Magic but the sandbox element really killed my boner over the years. The scenes were always worth it in the end but making things trigger used to trigger IRL frustration. Im a bit miffed that it wont be an all out bangfest but Im at still satisfied the game doesnt just have the old "one penis in the entire universe" motif. The moment I saw NPC characters banging each other I was hooked.
Dark Magic is what sandbox adults game should be. It has tons of content and the fact that you have replayable actions prolongs the game's life immensly. It's like Harem Hotel, Mythic Manor, Hail Dictator, Corrupted Kingdoms, ...etc which are awesome games. They don't ask you grind to hell to get a single scenes. Dark Magic's sandbox is one of the reason why it's amazing. I still return to the game time to time because you have replayable content while the F.Lord updates the game. The game feels way more alive than one and done games
Also When I have a quick look in your comment history it looks like you are big fan of NTR, Sharing, Cuckold...etc. Most of your comments are on NTR games. I don't judge your ntr-cuck fetish ofc but I don't think you are telling the truth about being a Dark Magic player for years. I haven't see you in Dark Magic's thread at all. It feels like you are just happy about seeing scenes like this from a really popular vanilla developer and you try to encourage it for more. If situation is not like this and I'm wrong, sorry about that. Lastly F.Lord already said that other dudes banging the girls was just for building the world and it's not relevant. It's not the theme of this game. I doubt you will find many scenes where other dudes banging the girls in future of this game. It will be mostly about mc and his love interests. These are my personal opinions based on what I understand from F.Lord told us. Anyways enjoy the game and have fun
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Very insightful post. Kudos for your honesty and I value your opinion
My comment history talks about double penetration and orgies but only in the vein of liking bangfest games. Max's Life, Desert Stalker, Solvalley High, Tamara, Public Sex Life, Office Wife, Point of No Return to name a few are all bangfest games not "cuckold games", some of which even have a dark theme or situation. Im a HUGE fan of "sneaky sex" games and porn I must admit and the scene in this game where the
Im not a fan of NTR where its some poor soul getting cucked or whatever, but Im also bored of vanila games because theyve become too unrealistic, outdated, and oversaturated when compared to the latter mentioned games although...if Im being fair, a massive orgy in the middle of the street like some of these games mentioned is unrealistic as well. At the end of the day its porn and fantasy. Even if I did have an NTR fetish, which I dont, I appreciate that you stated you wont kink shame as I will not kink shame a person who wanted to be cucked IRL or immerses themselves as a cuck in an NTR game. Thats what makes this site great, no shame and we can have offer different opinions.
Theres an argument that when watching any porn in general that you are not actually involved in (A video of you banging someone for example) is a form of voyeurism and lite-NTR (especially some porn) since YOU the audience are watching other ppl have sex. In these games you assume a role but it still boils down to some character having sex whether you get attached or not. In the games mentioned, there are many characters having sex and you get a chance to control who and how often. Thats my preference.
As far as Dark Magic, Youll see Ive been a member of this site since 2018. Dark Magic along with SS was one of the first games I played on this site. It was always one of the top games on the site so it was inevitable I download it long ago and it sits on my hardrive as one of my classics. I think I even have a review for the game if Im not mistaken. I dont keep track of every post and review because Im here for the porn. Occasionally, in the case of this thread, I'll post something if I really like the game. Other than that I lurk the thread for updates TBH.
F.Lord is a phenomenal dev and the animations in Dark Magic blew me away some time ago. Still do. Especially the speed and fluidity of the tits flopping when the MC has standing sex with the mom in the bedroom, still one of my favorite scenes ever on this site. The game is not without its flaws. The sandbox element, I agree, is well done for sandbox...but its still sandbox. I personally feel that none of these games should have a sandbox element but without it some the games wouldnt make sense so I basically tolerate it. Dark Magic is not without its flaws but I still highly recommend it. This game is better version of Dark Magic, to me, because it seems to have more wild sex or exhibitionism and virtually no sandbox elements. Asking for some Double Pentration is no crime, doesnt make me a fan of NTR either.
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Like you said, these games at the end of the day are all just fantasy, personally I wouldn't really compare voyeurism with NTR, I think they are very distinct fetishes. Voyeurism is all about other people having sex, NTR is about the love interest of the mc being stolen from him. The big difference between a porn movie and a video game is that a lot of people when they play these games, they like to play it as if they were the mc in the game, so fetishes like ntr, sharing, etc, tend to be very divisive since people for the most part don't really fantasize about sharing their love interests or getting cucked.
Regarding the whole kink shaming stuff. I think it's kind of silly even if you're a vanilla fan, to kink shame other people especially on a forum for adult games. A lot of people will think you're a degenerate just for playing these games.
It's ok if people like different stuff, I think these fetishes only become a problem when devs aren't open about the types of fetishes they are planning to add or change their plans mid development. I am a pretty vanilla player but I personally don't see an issue with the scenes with the other characters, they aren't supposed to be love interests and are there just for world building. The characters make sure that the player knows that no one will touch the mc's girls.
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Couldn't agree more. Personally, don't care about porn for a very long time, but love playing these games and AVNs. I suits me much better for the reasons you pointed. And I also hate to see kink shaming posts and similar stuff. That's why it also felt very refreshing to read all these previous comments talking about adult stuff in a mature way. I know I have my kinks and even if I don't understand some others, I acknowledge them. We're all deviants of some sort.
- Feb 12, 2020
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As I expected, the games story flows well and its sexy. Really nothing bothered me regarding other male characters on the island, they feel necessary when the eventual plot will kick in with only girl island. Great work so far oh Flord.
Looking forward to more "character development" with the family.
Looking forward to more "character development" with the family.
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I have to say that I share (redundant as it may sound) your opinion about sharing, swinging and voyeur content.Firstly I think this developer is one of the bests in adult game scene as a whole. For this game tho: I honestly don't like swinging, sharing or voyeur content at all if it involves other man than mc. I have no interest seeing other dudes fucking girls even that girls aren't mc's love interests. I feel like it's waste of development time which can be used for scenes for mc and girls. Unless that scenes (sharing, swinging.,voyeur) happens only for once or twice and that's because it's important for plot and world building.. If that kind of scenes doesn't appear later on the game and it was just for introduction part of the story but not theme of the game, I'm kinda fine with it. Harem Hotel has a scene like this for elf slaves and it happened only for once. It was for the plot. I didn't like it back then either but I understand why the dev did it and it never happened again anyways. For group sex: I like group sex only when mc plus girls and no other dicks involved. I also like girl on girl lesbian fun between MC's girls as well. So I'm totally on board if mc's girls decides have fun with eachother while MC is watching
On the other hand, lesbian scenes bore me (I can't find them interesting, neither in drawings nor with real people, seeing two girls kiss turns me on more or less the same as putting a collection of beer mugs in boxes)
Personally I prefer to avoid sex with girls who aren't LIs. It may be weird, but having sex scenes with girls who are in a relationship with other guys, even if they all agree on it, isn't particularly appealing to me.I thought F.Lord is a huge vanilla fan so I was quite shocked when I see other dude banging a girl really really close to mc and the girl who give mc a hj in the screenshot
I never really joined any NTR wars even tho I hate NTR, but I just had this galaxybrain idea.
If the NTR haters keep screaming and attacking developers to get rid of NTR/create only 1 dick harem games and it results in less NTR games made and more harem games made instead, wouldn't that be a win for both sides?
On the one hand, harem lovers would have more games to enjoy as the sole dick. On the other hand, NTR fans would have the thing they love the most taken away from them by other dudes. I see this as an absolute win.
If the NTR haters keep screaming and attacking developers to get rid of NTR/create only 1 dick harem games and it results in less NTR games made and more harem games made instead, wouldn't that be a win for both sides?
On the one hand, harem lovers would have more games to enjoy as the sole dick. On the other hand, NTR fans would have the thing they love the most taken away from them by other dudes. I see this as an absolute win.
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Bruh, the moment he woke up on the island and was met by a guy I knew the direction it was taking, if it's just a story about mc only getting drifted I would've thought about it but it's not, and then there are too many guys in here who are definitely gonna try to mess up with your family(when they come to the island) because the story is written in a way that everyone is open with their sexuality( one of the in-game character mentioned it), in what freaking way you think you will be able to keep them under your D when you are miles away banging bitches from the other houses, in the mean time since there are lot of guys someone or a group could see this opportunity and raid your temporary family home and smash your family members, and if not yeah you writer if you write it in a way that only mc is able to smash all of the girls with this kind of a story setting, it's just a freaking bad writing, I don't like sharing my girls, and I am not handling any second hand used products(exception unsatisfied milfs) that's a confirmation, girls being bimbos left and right, I got upto fatso kissing the tit flashers daughter right in front of mc(player/me), nah get out of my face, I am okay with being the kind & caring netori guy, because when it comes to fiction i love girls all of them equally, I want to have all of them to myself, I would like to be the god of that world and create and control the mind of males to be in a positive manner but ofcourse with distinct feature and personality, I mean something like a super computer which is connected to all the other computers, who has the power to command and control the other computers and at the same time experience all the incoming processes without any problem, I have a creampie, impregnation fetish I guess, because I believe cum's gotta go where it belongs, I mean it exist to create another life form so yeah why waste it, it is for what it is, I am a greedy bastard, and for that reason I am not okay with getting ntr'd, tch I thought it was story driven, but it's not.
I am not going to enter the war of whether sharing is Ntr or not, because if there is the option to choose and the corresponding label, there should be no drawbacks. What if this is already a personal appreciation ... about what the developer commented about a guy who is fucking his sister ... everything is perfect ... except that they are practically fucking in your face ... one thing is that they fuck and another is that they do it in your face ... I hope you understand my point, if you are going to resort to more scenes of that type or that are concealed or give a "space" that at least exceeds one meter away ahahaha.
I do not know if you read some previous posts from the developer and some players, who comment that everything will depend on the MC, that is, that lifestyle is voluntary, if they say no, it is no ... I do not think that a rapist or rapists work in that form of society, because having so much supply I do not see the problem ... now what you mention about losing the girls ... here I am already beginning to speculate according to what there is that I do not know how to implement it, but the premise of going for the girls of others ... in the long run it will generate discontent with "your girls", and that is more or less what happens, for example being family, if it is not for the island the MC could not take the relationship with them to the next level, I mean, to a certain extent, he "benefits" from the circumstances ... now I suppose that if he becomes greedy ... looking for more girls ... he will open the door for his own to start trying things ...
It would be strange that kind of sharing ... where you win everything and they get nothing ... would that be more netori than sharing? Well, I don't know what sense it would make to show girls (With the design work for only a few scenes and now ...) I want to believe because of the question that he leaves at the end of the description ... that if he takes from others ... with the time will also take from him ... I know that the developer is a fan of vanilla, but I don't think sharing is considered NTR ... so I don't expect strong things to happen and if they do happen they will surely be avoidable.