HTML The Monastery [v0.8.0.2] [Alcahest]
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- Aug 6, 2020
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I see your point, yet its "Security by Obscurity" and it has very little effectiveness:
made me remember about this article
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Any such obfuscation is futile since all you have to do is look where the code is entered and trace everything from there. It's all visible since it's plaintext.
This, so much this. Obfuscating in an HTML game is like putting doors to the field. Funny enough, the code in my game is ON THE CHANGELOG and nobody reads it
That's a genius place to hide the code.This, so much this. Obfuscating in an HTML game is like putting doors to the field. Funny enough, the code in my game is ON THE CHANGELOG and nobody reads it
Interesting argument, since according to that article, even with a foot in the door of booting custom code, it still took a hacking team stealing a dev kit to break, and another several years to fully reverse engineer. From the linked article that mentions the theft, "Had that Katana SDK never been stolen, the entire Dreamcast piracy and homebrew scenes would likely never have materialized." Clearly, "security through obscurity" was working just fine until that point.
Its always all or nothing with those who make this argument. When I "look where the code is entered" by rightclicking and viewing source on that frame, I get over 12.5K lines of html. Saying obfuscation is futile or that security through obscurity has low effectiveness, are logical fallacies known as a hasty generalization, or jumping to a conclusion without having or considering all the details. Echo chambering "So much this" does not make a logical fallacy any less fallacious.
Sure, the code can be traced, assuming the attacker has the skill and dedication to put in the time and effort required. The crowd playing these games, as demonstrated by the ones still asking for the code in this thread after I've already dropped 2 clues in my posts that spell it out clearly, dont have that. They are after instant gratification. Human readable naming conventions, comments and documenting your code are there to help the dev, because reading those is always easier than having to retrace code. This is programming 101. Removing those with a simple script before releasing a build denies that help to the attacker. So like the stolen Katana SDK in the Dreamcast example, the lesson is the same. Stop handing dev tools to attackers.
I'm hardly some master hacker, and I have a life. As I've already said, I relied on that help by searching the source for terms like "key", "code", and "password". Such clear signposts pointing the way trivialize the task of cracking the code. Uncommenting that debug alert made it an enjoyable guessing game. If I'd seen even basic obfuscation it would have turned the job into a code slog I would not have bothered with. I still wouldnt have bought a code, but I wouldnt have the benefits of it either.
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Ah this was driving me crazy. Al approves off this, just a little hint.
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It probably served for enough time in that case, I concur.
In this specific case: the game has the full content in clear.
You can just skip the game and see the media ♂
For any other technique:
secret codes get leaked, files get pirated.
I have more respect for authors that invest into having a good game, instead of a protected game.
This make me want to fund them.
My position would have been completely opposite for online services, and even in that case obscurity is not a security pattern (given that automated spoofing tool exists - you can run a test on your own product).
New update. New content for two quests, bugfixes, and improvements for mobile devices.
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If you read the second Veritatis entry before the second tasting event with the monks, I believe this lockout occurs. Because the game logic is looking for the second entry being read here, for the first time, and it cannot happen.
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ok i am stuck with 3 quests (that dont have a "thats all for this version flag")
one is
"Investigate sister dana"
the other is Julia: The troubled student
the lustful nun is the last non flagged quest i have
are those quests over and done with in this release and are just missing the "thats all folks" tag... or did i miss something
one is
"Investigate sister dana"
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the other is Julia: The troubled student
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the lustful nun is the last non flagged quest i have
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are those quests over and done with in this release and are just missing the "thats all folks" tag... or did i miss something
It continues one quest and starts a new. Why would it require a restart? Not unless you've found a bug.
You shouldn't have that much corruption without cheating. Like scarfer said, if you read the second chapter already, you're stuck. If you didn't cheat, it's a bug.
You probably need to revisit locations for the 'end' messages. As for the last one, you were asked by the Mother Superior if you could minister to the sisterhood while you were there. Maybe you should try asking her about that?
The quest it continued still showed it was at the end for the current version. I found the new one after I posted this, so it's good.
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That save doesn't work. Only 2kb, like you haven't started the game. But I have found the bug. You played from the start right? Or at least before reaching the end of the last version. I thought I didn't need to update the quest checks for older saves but apparently I must.here you go
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Damn, I thought I had figured out a way to avoid having to update quest info manually on all quests to avoid having the same reporting problem I had with Paradise Found where it often said 99% completed when it really was 100%. But I didn't test it well enough. :/