VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

[TrixRabbit]

On the Kaija love path, most indications are that Kaija does feel something for MC. So I'm definitely of the opinion that she's emotionally compromised from a professional perspective on that path.

I'm pretty sure we don't know whether or not Kaija reported this to the Templars as soon as she realized it or not. She definitely would be in a bit of an unusual situation though regardless, since I doubt very many real-life organizations would consider ordering an operative to start a romantic relationship with a childhood friend for protective detail in the first place since, the morality of it aside, it'd carry a high risk of emotional compromise in the future.

Sadly they would, IF they thought the agent was trained/detached/reliable enough - they would absolutely take advantage of the prior relationship. That would actually be a huge plus for them. Otherwise it's complicated - they've got to introduce a new person, figure out a way for them to get close, without spooking the target. If he's super shy / or not terribly attractive they've got to find someone who seems "in his league" etc etc etc. If they already know each other then it's just "Hi! Long time no see, we should grab a drink ... "

 

[TrixRabbit]

I would love to be a fly on the wall in MC's parents house though - at least in my game. He yells at them alot, burns bridges, his sister goes back in, says that he's gone - that he may not be back and they go "let him cool down and we can try again" (or similar) and the next info they get is that his phone has been dropped off to the Templars and he is - willingly - visiting the elves (the very ones who just let the father go.) Play me the audio of the conversation that follows that.

 

[Rehwyn]

Sadly they would, IF they thought the agent was trained/detached/reliable enough - they would absolutely take advantage of the prior relationship. That would actually be a huge plus for them. Otherwise it's complicated - they've got to introduce a new person, figure out a way for them to get close, without spooking the target. If he's super shy / or not terribly attractive they've got to find someone who seems "in his league" etc etc etc. If they already know each other then it's just "Hi! Long time no see, we should grab a drink ... "

Oh yeah, I have no doubt they'd take advantage of the childhood friendship. But ordering them to start a romantic relationship with a friendly person on top of that doesn't seem likely if the want to avoid emotional compromise.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Katja protecting the MC is the reason I don't believe he is the son to that family, and he is supernatural. The sister doesn't have protection, but the son does. It was a very hot topic that the counsel wanted Katja to get with him. He has various gifts he has abilities he shouldn't maybe he is an incubus, Thats why the succubus didn't affect him all these ladies like him. Hmm he's something supernatural that's my take on it.

 

[Maviarab]

Katja protecting the MC is the reason I don't believe he is the son to that family, and he is supernatural. The sister doesn't have protection, but the son does. It was a very hot topic that the counsel wanted Katja to get with him. He has various gifts he has abilities he shouldn't maybe he is an incubus, Thats why the succubus didn't affect him all these ladies like him. Hmm he's something supernatural that's my take on it.

Gonna say it again....remember when Fiona rescued a little boy and she kept her eye on him.....hmmm...hmmm...anyone....anyone....Bueller.....

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I'm going to blame the Stathanator and his succubus pet Kaija....

But has F95 changed the fucking order of the 'likes' or is just messing around for me today? Godamn worse than Steam or phone apps...gotta keep changing pointless shit for no godamn reason!

 

[HornyyPussy]

Gonna say it again....remember when Fiona rescued a little boy and she kept her eye on him.....hmmm...hmmm...anyone....anyone....Bueller.....

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I'm going to blame the Stathanator and his succubus pet Kaija....

But has F95 changed the fucking order of the 'likes' or is just messing around for me today? Godamn worse than Steam or phone apps...gotta keep changing pointless shit for no godamn reason!

Nope, they are just changed for salty people not being able to handle the awesomeness that is Kaija!





no, they've changed the order of them and removed one and added another

 

[Adhdclassic]

Gonna say it again....remember when Fiona rescued a little boy and she kept her eye on him.....hmmm...hmmm...anyone....anyone....Bueller.....

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I'm going to blame the Stathanator and his succubus pet Kaija....

But has F95 changed the fucking order of the 'likes' or is just messing around for me today? Godamn worse than Steam or phone apps...gotta keep changing pointless shit for no godamn reason!

My bad most likely missed that post.

 

[Rehwyn]

Katja protecting the MC is the reason I don't believe he is the son to that family, and he is supernatural. The sister doesn't have protection, but the son does. It was a very hot topic that the counsel wanted Katja to get with him. He has various gifts he has abilities he shouldn't maybe he is an incubus, Thats why the succubus didn't affect him all these ladies like him. Hmm he's something supernatural that's my take on it.

My memory is spotty, but I thought it was mentioned that he was protected because he was the older sibling.

Kind of weak reason, so I suspect there's more going on still as well. And it's possible he could have supernatural elements and still be their kid, so I wouldn't rule that out.

Also, it's possible his sister might have had a protection detail as well that we don't know about yet. Maybe they kept their distance or are still under cover. Not saying that's likely, but given how Templars love their secrets, I could maybe see it.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I kaija is a Succubus then she can succ and u will bus all over her face. See I went there. For those that didn't get it because we know there are a few. I broke up the word Succubus...Nevermind

 

[xapican]

But has F95 changed the fucking order of the 'likes' or is just messing around for me today?

No but I can do that, a bit

 

[Rehwyn]

I kaija is a Succubus then she can succ and u will bus all over her face. See I went there. For those that didn't get it because we know there are a few. I broke up the word Succubus...Nevermind

I don't get it. I'm gonna need a demonstration, preferably from Kaija herself.

 

[Maviarab]

My bad most likely missed that post.

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[Adhdclassic]

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Yea my ADHD said nope.

 

[Rehwyn]

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An interesting theory, but I don't think that'd explain why his sister also has untapped magical potential. Unless she's also adopted or her source is different.

 

[Maviarab]

An interesting theory, but I don't think that'd explain why his sister also has untapped magical potential. Unless she's also adopted.

We don't know she has....just one throwaway line from Mab. Again, don't state things as facts when they are not (currently). Mab could say wasted potential because she has none.... Unlike the MC, Jess has shown zero capability of and in anything.

Glass half empty or full?

 

[Rehwyn]

We don't know she has....just one throwaway line from Mab. Again, don't state things as facts when they are not (currently). Mab could say wasted potential because she has none.... Unlike the MC, Jess has shown zero capability of and in anything.

Glass half empty or full?

True, but we've only recently seen any indication that MC has anything unusual either, and largely by chance.

But it did give me another thought. What do we know about MC's father's childhood and parentage? (Genuinely asking; can't remember details and at work)

If Fiona is what I think she is, I suspect the conflict she mentioned might be The Troubles. The location would be right, and the timing of that conflict (1960s to 1990s) could potentially put the boy at MC's father's age and result in both siblings being unusual.

Plus, how poetic would it be if the Grandmaster of the Templars was secretly and possibly unknowingly not entirely human.

Definitely a stretch, and there might be some conflicting info that I'm not remembering, but I think it's an interesting idea.

 

[Maviarab]

True, but we've only recently seen any indication that MC has anything unusual either, and largely by chance.

But it did give me another thought. What do we know about MC's father's childhood and parentage? (Genuinely asking; can't remember details and at work)

If Fiona is what I think she is, I suspect the conflict she mentioned might be The Troubles. The location would be right, and that timing could potentially put that boy at MC's father's age and result in both siblings being unusual.

Plus, how poetic would it be if the Grandmaster of the Templars was secretly and possibly unknowingly not entirely human.

Definitely a stretch, and there might be some conflicting info that I'm not remembering, but I think it's an interesting idea.

we have not been told anything about our parents other than what is actually seen/shown. We know nothing of their background other than what is told to us in the 'let's be honest on the sofa' conversation.

You could have a point there actually, that's not an angle I'd even considered....

 

[xapican]

We don't know she has....just one throwaway line from Mab. Again, don't state things as facts when they are not (currently). Mab could say wasted potential because she has none.... Unlike the MC, Jess has shown zero capability of and in anything.

Glass half empty or full?

It amazes me each time how different the perceptions of things are, I read the convo with Fi and her telling MC about that specific Memory,
although I didn't relate that to MC , for me it was a random boy, anyway it is within the range of posibilitys, since it is almost certain that Fiona belogs to a Superhuman race, and could be much older as she leads on.
from my understanding, there are a few holes in that theory,
The boy was human or at least i think that was Implied in the text you posted.
than the statement of Fiona, that she can't look at the child because she feel s guilty which isn't the case when she looks at the MC (in both paths)
Edit: Rehwyn ; give you the benefit of doubt, I don't remember that Fiona put a time or a reference on the years, in that convo with MC so I was surprised that you could Narrow it down to 60's till 90's , the open turf war between the Templars and the Neverwhere "mafia" was recently and MC father was an operative in that time, as his Dad was killed, and he asumed the rank of Grandmaster, this is what triggerd the conflict you alude,

 

[Rehwyn]

It amezes me each time how different the perceptions of things are, I read the convo with Fi and her telling MC about that specific Memory,
although I didn't relate that to MC , for me it was a random boy, anyway it is within the range of posibilitys, since it is almost certain that Fiona belogs to a Superhuman race, and could be much older as she leads on.
from my understanding, there are a few holes in that theory,
The boy was human or at least i think that was Implied in the text you posted.
than the statement of Fiona, that she can't look at the child because she feel s guilty which isn't the case when she looks at the MC (in both paths)

My initial interpretation also was that it was a random boy. But in retrospect while it's somewhat implied the boy is a random human, there's enough uncertainty there that anything is possible (including the theory that the boy is MC's father as I mentioned above).

Fiona also seems to know more about MC than she lets on. This is more apparent on her romance path where she appears in the background when MC goes to Neverwhere and meets the Elves. I suppose she could have just been following him around, but I suspect she already knows he's connected to the supernatural world.

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Edit: Rehwyn ; give you the benefit of doubt, I don't remember that Fiona put a time or a reference on the years, in that convo with MC so I was surprised that you could Narrow it down to 60's till 90's , the open turf war between the Templars and the Neverwhere "mafia" was recently and MC father was an operative in that time, as his Dad was killed, and he asumed the rank of Grandmaster, this is what triggerd the conflict you alude,

The reference to the 1960s-90s is just to provide context to when

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occurred for people that might not be familiar with the conflict.

As for narrowing down when Fiona was taking about, if the boy is human (or at least has a human life span) and is still alive for her to watch over, it likely occurred within the last few decades and not farther in the past.

 

[HornyyPussy]

I guess we should just wait and find out?









No? Carry on then!