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VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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Pixillin'

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I'm still in mourning. Dev writes a good character only to kill them in an update. As a writers tool for getting the MC to possibly hate the templars or drive the MC to find out who's pulling the strings even harder, she served her purpose. But still... I liked her damn it!
That's the confusing bit, apparently MC isn't supposed to hate the Templars - he's supposed to be neutral, even after Finn. It may have worked too well, because I despise the Templars now - and if I finish the game with a Li at all, she'll be second best (unless there's one we haven't met yet).
 

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That's the confusing bit, apparently MC isn't supposed to hate the Templars - he's supposed to be neutral, even after Finn. It may have worked too well, because I despise the Templars now - and if I finish the game with a Li at all, she'll be second best (unless there's one we haven't met yet).
Don't know why you would hate the Templars because of Fin's death? They had nothing to do with it (maybe a traitor amongst them did but that's it)
 

Pixillin'

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Don't know why you would hate the Templars because of Fin's death? They had nothing to do with it (maybe a traitor amongst them did but that's it)
Prove it. Right now all we know is that Medb says it was them - and if you trust Medb that's what you have to go on. So, do you have evidence (something that the MC would know right now) that confirms that none of the Templars were involved? I mean I already strongly disliked them, and trusted none of them - at all - when I went to see the Alfir. So I will need some solid evidence of their non involvement based on what we know right now to not absolutely hate them going into the next update.
 

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Prove it. Right now all we know is that Medb says it was them - and if you trust Medb that's what you have to go on. So, do you have evidence (something that the MC would know right now) that confirms that none of the Templars were involved? I mean I already strongly disliked them, and trusted none of them - at all - when I went to see the Alfir. So I will need some solid evidence of their non involvement based on what we know right now to not absolutely hate them going into the next update.
Well, I've read the story as it progresses and it's been made pretty clear that there are a third party trying to start a war between the Templars and Elves so it wasn't that much of a mental exercise to come to that conclusion.....

Also what yossa said.
 

Wolfram99

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It was a misunderstanding! A discrepancy in the work of different departments, bureacracy, you know. An unfortunate mistake occurred, but everything has already been settled! So you can safely maximize RP with Medb now!
Ill switch to Ailil, he is the only good knife-ear so far.
 

yossa999

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Ill switch to Ailil, he is the only good knife-ear so far.
Ailill always was and always will be the Medb's cuck, I wouldn't trust him.
Ailill managed to keep his promise to Medb to be without jealousy, despite her many lovers, until he saw her bathing in a lake with Fergus. His blind brother Lugaid Dalléces was nearby, so Ailill told him a hart and a doe were playing in the lake, and challenged him to kill them with a spear. Lugaid threw the spear and killed Fergus.
A bunch of freaks they are :cautious:
But frankly, I feel sorry for Finn. A threesome with Medb and her would be just amazing.
 
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Prove it. Right now all we know is that Medb says it was them - and if you trust Medb that's what you have to go on. So, do you have evidence (something that the MC would know right now) that confirms that none of the Templars were involved? I mean I already strongly disliked them, and trusted none of them - at all - when I went to see the Alfir. So I will need some solid evidence of their non involvement based on what we know right now to not absolutely hate them going into the next update.
Proving a negative is impossible - that's why most civilized countries require evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that someone did do something. The word of a questionable source with their own agenda doesn't pass muster with anyone other than those of low intellect and or significant bias.
 

UnoriginalUserName

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Fixed that for you.

Exactly! Mommy Medb has never tried to manipulate the MC before, I believe her!
He's such an obvious douchebag though, and while he may dislike or even hate the Alfar, I don't know that he's enough of a warmonger to actually want a war with them. I guess we'll see if he's a red herring or not.
Ailill always was and always will be the Medb's cuck, I wouldn't trust him.


A bunch of freaks they are :cautious:
But frankly, I feel sorry for Finn. A threesome with Medb and her would be just amazing.
There's no incest with the sister (even after all that skintight bodysuit teasing), so I doubt there would be any mother/daughter action either. :cry:
 
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Pixillin'

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Well, I've read the story as it progresses and it's been made pretty clear that there are a third party trying to start a war between the Templars and Elves so it wasn't that much of a mental exercise to come to that conclusion.....

Also what yossa said.
There have been hints of that, but MC doesn't actually know anything about it. It all depends on the choices you've made, the paths you've taken and how you feel about things so far. Based on my reactions to things, I came in not liking the Templars and I know that some of them really hate the Alfar, so I'm inclined to believe Medb - who has made a MUCH more positive impression than the Templars. If I'm playing as the MC there is no part of me that doubts for a second that the Templars would kill Finn, and I have no other suspects. I'm definitely not going back to the city as Neutral toward the Templars - I despised them when I left the city, before I'd met Finn.
 
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HornyyPussy

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There have been hints of that, but MC doesn't actually know anything about it. It all depends on the choices you've made, the paths you've taken and how you feel about things so far. Based on my reactions to things, I came in not liking the Templars and I know that some of them really hate the Alfar, so I'm inclined to believe Medb - who has made a MUCH more positive impression than the Templars. If I'm playing as the MC there is no part of me that doubts for a second that the Templars would kill Finn, and I have no other suspects. I'm definitely not going back to the city as Neutral toward the Templars - I despised them when I left the city, before I'd met Finn.
Well, you do you. I'm not playing completely as the MC, I like to think for myself when I play a game/watch a movie/tv show and draw my own conclusion based on what the story tells me.
 
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Pixillin'

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Proving a negative is impossible - that's why most civilized countries require evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that someone did do something. The word of a questionable source with their own agenda doesn't pass muster with anyone other than those of low intellect and or significant bias.
Read what I said above. At this stage in the game I trust Medb way more than the Templars. Also, few people would, if someone killed their LI or at least a good friend, is going to say "I'll let the courts handle this" - especially if you know, in this world, there won't be a court. Until I see evidence to the contrary I 100% believe Medb over the Templars.
 

Pixillin'

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Well, you do you. I'm not playing completely as the MC, I like to think for myself when I play a game/watch a movie/tv show and draw my own conclusion based on what the story tells me.
Sure but even in movies and TV I expect the character to react based on what the character knows. If there's other stuff going on that the character doesn't know about, I'd find it odd if he based his actions on those things.
 

HornyyPussy

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Sure but even in movies and TV I expect the character to react based on what the character knows. If there's other stuff going on that the character doesn't know about, I'd find it odd if he based his actions on those things.
Not the same thing for me since in a VN it's me that chooses what the MC does unlike in a movie/tv show. I make the choices I want to happen since I'm playing these games for enjoyment, not realism.
 
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