Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

[ddtmm]

oh boy

 

[E358700]

So, since the quirks are disabled but still present in the files, does anybody actually know which variables one would have to flip to reenable them or even what variables one would be looking for? I am vaguely interested in messing about and maybe reenabling the quirks just for shits and giggles, but I'm not exactly a coding expert and wouldn't really know where to even start looking.

 

[NexivSelecaf]

So, since the quirks are disabled but still present in the files, does anybody actually know which variables one would have to flip to reenable them or even what variables one would be looking for? I am vaguely interested in messing about and maybe reenabling the quirks just for shits and giggles, but I'm not exactly a coding expert and wouldn't really know where to even start looking.

freddygonzo & sleepingkirby: Your time to shine.

 

[potatoezzz]

Hi so Salcou and boots beef aside will the scene viewer thingy be available to everyone in .9 or just the patreon people?

 

[NexivSelecaf]

oh boy

You said it, pal.

 

[\\_Tremolo_//]

What weird time to come to this thread

 

[Leathermax]

I once again come to bring peace by talking about Rogue's ass.
I recently realized that when you massage a girl in TNH it doesn't enter the sex minigame nor does it display the girl's positions. RLE incorporated this a few years ago and it was pretty nice.
Is it feasible to make something similar where you give a girl a massage and it does the same thing where you can ask her to take a few pieces of clothing depending on their Love/Trust and adopt certain positions for you to massage them, then click on a few body parts and get a bonus to their stats?
It's a good way of interacting with the sex screen even in platonic routes, and giving a massage to a hot bitch is very nice. Being told in a line that you did it is nowhere even close to how cool it is to actually doing it, choosing which body part to massage, seeing their expressions, reading how they react to your massage, or even unlocking a skill that allows you to know how to give better massages.

 

[cannavaro99]

Please ignore the "no update in years" mumbo jumbo. That stuff is disheartening

 

[Nominus353]

Thank you to everyone who makes this free game for us. For free.

 

[Krazzt]

My problem with that line of thinking is that IMO, the kinks were a good way to flirt with the characters even if you weren't dating them.

Like, hearing that Laura has started to really like the way you smell, or Jean hesitantly bringing up your "sibling"ship every time she can in weirder ways, there's a part of you that's like "wait, is this a sex thing? are they flirting, is she into me?"

It added a little spice. My most recent playthorugh felt weirdly abrupt without that kind of dialogue to bridge the gap between just friends and actually dating.

But I guess they made their decision... maybe I'll just find a way to use console to turn the kinks on early, hopefully the platonic kinks are an actual thing they're working on

I guess you can also say that those kinks make characters more "alive", so to speak. It gives them a personality beyond your control, just like IRL. Simply because you ask someone "blease stob xD--" doesn't mean they're going to stop doing weird (or not so weird) shit.

 

[armond]

I guess you can also say that those kinks make characters more "alive", so to speak. It gives them a personality beyond your control, just like IRL. Simply because you ask someone "blease stob xD--" doesn't mean they're going to stop doing weird (or not so weird) shit.

I agree with this, creating a convincing facsimile of life is so difficult that it is often done accidentally it seems.

 

[Krazzt]

I agree with this, creating a convincing facsimile of life is so difficult that it is often done accidentally it seems.
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I guess.
It's a fun dynamic. I was thinking what made new playthrough a bit more sterile than before - it was rework of this mechanic I now think. Remember romancing Rogue in earlier versions and bringing her to my room and, at some point, seeing that Laura stands outside the window, leaning on it, with glowing ass eyes. IRL it can be annoying, but in the game it has a lighthearted, sort of comedic tone.
I mean, someone like Jean wouldn't stop bringning up her "brother" thing just because you've asked. You'll say "blease stob xD" and she'll say "okay XXDD" only to bring it up again, "when the time is right", in hopes that you can reconsider.

 

[salscou]

I guess.
It's a fun dynamic. I was thinking what made new playthrough a bit more sterile than before - it was rework of this mechanic I now think. Remember romancing Rogue in earlier versions and bringing her to my room and, at some point, seeing that Laura stands outside the window, leaning on it, with glowing ass eyes. IRL it can be annoying, but in the game it has a lighthearted, sort of comedic tone.
I mean, someone like Jean wouldn't stop bringning up her "brother" thing just because you've asked. You'll say "blease stob xD" and she'll say "okay XXDD" only to bring it up again, "when the time is right", in hopes that you can reconsider.

You, good sir, get it.
It is simply too funny, it rocked super hard and the premise that in the future encouraging the quirks might develop in unforeseen consequences was a plot hook that had me exited and giddy to find out what would happen.



As it was, the quirks was the TNH equivalent of wild wasteland and i was all up for that.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

So, since the quirks are disabled but still present in the files, does anybody actually know which variables one would have to flip to reenable them or even what variables one would be looking for? I am vaguely interested in messing about and maybe reenabling the quirks just for shits and giggles, but I'm not exactly a coding expert and wouldn't really know where to even start looking.

They're not disabled. They're currently locked behind dating the girl as all of the quirk dialogue was written in the context that you were dating them.

It was created before the idea of interacting with the girls in a platonic manner was ever even considered.

So we decided to lock the romantic quirk behavior behind dating them and write dialogue that is the same in tone but acknowledges that the girls are pining after you instead of dating you.

Is it feasible to make something similar where you give a girl a massage and it does the same thing where you can ask her to take a few pieces of clothing depending on their Love/Trust and adopt certain positions for you to massage them, then click on a few body parts and get a bonus to their stats?

This is a good idea. I'll throw it at the devs.

I guess you can also say that those kinks make characters more "alive", so to speak. It gives them a personality beyond your control, just like IRL. Simply because you ask someone "blease stob xD--" doesn't mean they're going to stop doing weird (or not so weird) shit.

Their thirst will remain. It is simply being rewritten to be thirst after a man they are not in an active relationship with.

It is simply too funny, it rocked super hard and the premise that in the future encouraging the quirks might develop in unforeseen consequences was a plot hook that had me exited and giddy to find out what would happen.

As it was, the quirks was the TNH equivalent of wild wasteland and i was all up for that.

You will still be able to encourage quirks platonically and see the long term consequences of doing so. We're simply adding dialogue for instances where you are not their boyfriend.

Laura will still stalk you, Rogue will still defer to you for guidance and protection, and Jean will still think that she's the best option to date and try to get you to date her.

 

[SeveralGeese]

Out of curiosity, do you know which update that's planned for? Or is it still up in the air?

 

[E358700]

They're not disabled. They're currently locked behind dating the girl as all of the quirk dialogue was written in the context that you were dating them.

From what I read, I was under the impression that the quirks being available on the girls' platonic routes was what is disabled. Reading through your responses made it sound like everything is all still there, and all you have to do is flip a few variables to reenable the quirks for platonic routes, that's what I was referring to there. I probably could have worded that message a little more clearly, but alas.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

I leave for a couple of days...
Saw it coming though.

They're not disabled. They're currently locked behind dating the girl as all of the quirk dialogue was written in the context that you were dating them.

Some of them are still possible if you click on the choices during end of season events. Seems to be for the ones with a less sexual undertone.
I dated Jean and rejected everyone else for the file for these screenshots.

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I'll have to find where I can edit and remove Laura's quirks since I only did it to test if I could.
Not the best way to describes encouraging a gal's dark inclinations.

In other news, I'm glad that after the Rogue's ass spam and the Laura posting that at least Jean is getting some attention.
Shes the hottest after all.

 

[Bfrop]

That's not why I was heated. I take getting accused of gaslighting VERY seriously as I am a degree holding psychologist and people misuse it like an armchair activist uses the word Nazi.


This is literally what's being done. I phrased it in three different ways and get called a liar.

>gaslighting
>armchair activist
>Nazi

Go back to Reddit?
I think so.

 

[Terry Zimmerman]

I've played the game from the beginning two or three times, and I think the relationships develop naturally in this order: Rogue, Laura and then Jean. Rogue feels like the first natural romance since she’s the first major character you interact with, and your powers letting you touch her makes it easy to connect. Laura comes next because her story beats are tied to Rogue's — they become friends, which makes the poly route feel smooth and believable. Jean usually ends up last for me since she feels the most “separate” from the others.
For Chapter 2, I'm guessing Storm will be first, since you’ve already met her in Chapter 1 and she’s probably already close with the other girls. I have no idea how Kitty and Dazzler will fit into the progression.
Is this just me? Was this intentional or just how the game naturally developed?

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Was this intentional or just how the game naturally developed?

Just how things develop. Rogue is the first and most "natural" girl for dating from a narrative perceptive. First you come across, girl assigned to help you, study partner, powers make things fit better (make you immune to her so she can touch), etc.
Laura is the next girl introduced and your physical conditioning instructor.
Jean shows up last because she is busy doing X-Men things.

I'm sure the official line would be "there is no favoritism, you shape the story, and all choices are valid" which is true, but the story as it is does have certain things naturally fit cleaner in order.

I'd assume Storm, Kitty, Dazzler if I remember right from comics. Kitty and Dazzler are only like one or two issues apart so they are pretty much at the same time so it could go either way.