Pretentious Goblin

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Does the new guild debt stuff have a purpose? Because after paying off one week only to find the debt keeps getting bigger, I stopped playing this version. Just seems like an unnecessary grind that actively distracts from the focus of the game, the princess. I mean, if you're going to introduce a mandatory parallel grind, at least have a carrot at the end of it, not just the stick.
 
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Does the new guild debt stuff have a purpose? Because after paying off one week only to find the debt keeps getting bigger, I stopped playing this version. Just seems like an unnecessary grind that actively distracts from the focus of the game, the princess. I mean, if you're going to introduce a mandatory parallel grind, at least have a carrot at the end of it, not just the stick.
Well, its like in real life.

If you don't hand over money at home and meet your external obligations, things won't end well for you... ;)

On a more serious note:
  • Paying off the guild debt will motivate the Guild to send you an aspiring young thief to train (that's the carrot). She can do the dungeon runs for you and has some other benefits...
  • This angle wasn't made too clear in the Guild letter, it was only clarified, once the debt has been paid off (which isnt too difficult, but still takes about 10-15 days.)
  • Anyway, from your comment I realized it's a bit harsh to fail the MC at the first week he cannot keep up with enough payments to reduce his debt (which has interest accruing)
So I've make the guild letter clearer in V0.4.1 and implemented some warnings, if you should fall behind.

But anyway, if you want to actually see the new char, you'll have to wait for V5 (which is B07 for patreon, a month later public).
 
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Thanks for sending the log.
  • The error dump: This error was not reproduceable, would occur only under conditions that cannot be achieved. Don't know, what went wrong there. Anyway, I added one paranoid exception check more to the code so it can't occur. Always good to make code more robust.
  • As to the achievement "well trained pet": Please not, that you need 3 times (not in a row but in total) to finish the game with 2 stars or more (regardless of your SUB value). Then you get that achievement.
Tnx for the tip about 3 x 2 stars or above....did the trick...used older save and now going to get on with the game...tnx again
 

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Well, its like in real life.

If you don't hand over money at home and meet your external obligations, things won't end well for you... ;)

On a more serious note:
  • Paying off the guild debt will motivate the Guild to send you an aspiring young thief to train (that's the carrot). She can do the dungeon runs for you and has some other benefits...
  • This angle wasn't made too clear in the Guild letter, it was only clarified, once the debt has been paid off (which isnt too difficult, but still takes about 10-15 days.)
  • Anyway, from your comment I realized it's a bit harsh to fail the MC at the first week he cannot keep up with enough payments to reduce his debt (which has interest accruing)
So I've make the guild letter clearer in V0.4.1 and implemented some warnings, if you should fall behind.

But anyway, if you want to actually see the new char, you'll have to wait for V5 (which is B07 for patreon, a month later public).

Dept wasn't too harsh for me, I payed it off in a little over a in-game week.
I'm looking forward for the new character. Are you planning on keeping her+princess the only girls in the game (except the Queen)? I don't think it's a good idea to dilude a game like that between too many characters.
 
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I was wondering what the current version 4.0 max is for SLU and SUB. Also, I've seen pictures of the queen where she is not in the mirror. How do you get her in the castle without allowing her hordes to attack through the portal and end the game?
The max is 10 SUB and 20 SLU.
The queen has fullscreen nude posing options in v0.4.1 when you "walk up" to the mirror (still remote, no Keep visits)
 
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Dept wasn't too harsh for me, I payed it off in a little over a in-game week.
I'm looking forward for the new character. Are you planning on keeping her+princess the only girls in the game (except the Queen)? I don't think it's a good idea to dilude a game like that between too many characters.
There will be two new (female) characters in V5 (an assistant the thieves' guild sends you once you pay off the guild and an apprentice witch)
 

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The max is 10 SUB and 20 SLU.
The queen has fullscreen nude posing options in v0.4.1 when you "walk up" to the mirror (still remote, no Keep visits)
I've got the 20 SLU but only have 8 on the SUB. I'll have to keep putting her in the cage I guess. Also, I've not been able to use the fruit. She refuses to take it even though the blowjobs/deepthroats are complete. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
 

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Results of Public Game Poll @ Patreon

Top Items in the poll

  • Rank 1 - Content: I want more NSFW art
  • Rank 2 - Difficulty: Version 0.4 of the game is just right
  • Rank 3 - Issues: I encountered no major issues in V0.4
  • Rank 4 - I like training approach in V0.4 better than in the first release
Minor mentions (partly aggregated / combined)
  • Rank 5 - Game is too hard + I do not know what to do
  • Rank 6 - I encountered a game stopping bug
Resulting activities
  • Issue 1 is addressed with V0.4.1 released on patreon (16.06.)
  • Issue 5 is resolved with an in-game quest help log, also V0.4.1.
  • Issue 6 was most liekely the erotic novel bug, resolved since V0.4RC4
Overall I am quite happy, that game difficulty and playability seem to be about right.
  • Thanks to everyone who participated!
Further outlook: Version 0.5 (Public Release M08, Patreon M07) will add new content, but also address adjustment to repetitiveness of certain grinding tasks.
 

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I've got the 20 SLU but only have 8 on the SUB. I'll have to keep putting her in the cage I guess. Also, I've not been able to use the fruit. She refuses to take it even though the blowjobs/deepthroats are complete. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
You have unfortunately run into the quest bug in V0.4RC3. This corrupts the SLU quest progress. Sorry for that.

It is fixed in V04RC4 (up in Op) . Please use a savegame _before_ you have done the night visit at Irith.

Or wait for Patreon only version 0.4.1 with quite a bit of new NFSW art especially on this quest and replay ;)
Will be Out 16.06.
 

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Dept wasn't too harsh for me, I payed it off in a little over a in-game week.
I'm looking forward for the new character. Are you planning on keeping her+princess the only girls in the game (except the Queen)? I don't think it's a good idea to dilude a game like that between too many characters.
There will be only two more. A thief assistant you are to train and a nerdy witch, who helps you with the portal
 

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Quite enjoyed what I've played so far. The weird princess is surprisingly fun as a character, and the gameplay ... it's not just clicking through a bunch of text and occasionally making a choice, so that gets kudos either way.

I'd agree that the grind is generally a bit too much for what content there is; and it's definitely not fun doing the same thing, esp. when the RNG is kinda ... eh, it's RNG. So either you roll back to get what you want/need, in which case things are even more of a chore, or you play properly, in which case you get punished by even more grinding ...
Personally I'd at least consider a Magic Supply Chest (the princess got to survive somehow) which you "loot" each day for some basics instead of searching the same rooms again and again and somehow finding new stuff, too.

Also, the bath thing specifically where you just have to stand there with zero indication of a timer or anything happening etc, I don't think that's any sort of good design. It's point&click-ish otherwise so that's probably what you should do; click on the princess, pick "stay and watch" (or something).

But, eh, mileage may vary and all that.

Also, just this weird vibe I got while playing it, with doing those chores over and over again and generally doing what the princess demands; okay, sure, I'm 99% sure that's not a planned direction for the game, but I'd personally find it absolutely hilarious if gob protagonist turned into this sort of hyper-competent "anime" butler trope - basically, princess trains goblin as perfect personal butler, goblin simultaneously trains princess to become some slutty pet. :D
 

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Quite enjoyed what I've played so far. The weird princess is surprisingly fun as a character, and the gameplay ... it's not just clicking through a bunch of text and occasionally making a choice, so that gets kudos either way.

I'd agree that the grind is generally a bit too much for what content there is; and it's definitely not fun doing the same thing, esp. when the RNG is kinda ... eh, it's RNG. So either you roll back to get what you want/need, in which case things are even more of a chore, or you play properly, in which case you get punished by even more grinding ...
Personally I'd at least consider a Magic Supply Chest (the princess got to survive somehow) which you "loot" each day for some basics instead of searching the same rooms again and again and somehow finding new stuff, too.

Also, the bath thing specifically where you just have to stand there with zero indication of a timer or anything happening etc, I don't think that's any sort of good design. It's point&click-ish otherwise so that's probably what you should do; click on the princess, pick "stay and watch" (or something).

But, eh, mileage may vary and all that.

Also, just this weird vibe I got while playing it, with doing those chores over and over again and generally doing what the princess demands; okay, sure, I'm 99% sure that's not a planned direction for the game, but I'd personally find it absolutely hilarious if gob protagonist turned into this sort of hyper-competent "anime" butler trope - basically, princess trains goblin as perfect personal butler, goblin simultaneously trains princess to become some slutty pet. :D
Thx for the feedback.

Some pointers regarding version 0.4.1 (RC done, release 16.06. on patreon):

- Chest items and loot amount now level dependent (reduced randomising)
- The horrible „wait and do nothing“ decisions removed (now triggered by clicking chat etc.)
- Skip to phase x and easy mode selection options on start screen
- Lots of NSFW additions to spice up existing story arc
So hopefully some of my design flaws are history with that.

Searchable chest is a good idea to „bundle“ daily search stuff. Added feature as

CR-0140 / Gameplay / Bundle daily room searches into e.g. chest
As to the goblin:
Despite all the training and favours, he somehow ends up giving her most of his money (voluntarily). Like in real life. Go figure ;)
 
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userfromitaly

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i cant seem to unlock the bath scene...i go in the bathroom after doing her quest of picking item from her room and wait, but she only did some pose...unlocked blowjob and just gave her fruit after first deepthroat, sub and slu are over 10 what should i do ?
 

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i cant seem to unlock the bath scene...i go in the bathroom after doing her quest of picking item from her room and wait, but she only did some pose...unlocked blowjob and just gave her fruit after first deepthroat, sub and slu are over 10 what should i do ?
That seems like an odd status.
The blowjob doesn't trigger if the bath scene isn't done.

If you're on 0.4RC3 it might be the SLU quest bug.
I recommend D/L of RC4 (in OP), reload a save befoe the first night visit of Irith and replay that part.
 

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promo v041.png

Hi,


the new version 0.4.1 is out on

Thanks to helpful feedback from the community, the game is now much closer to what I originally intended.

Despite small increment in version number, changes to last public V0.4 are imho significant:

  • Irith: Lots of cutscenes with gratuitous nudity, mini animations added, ...
  • Illiana: Nude cutscenes once portal is open, mini animations added, ...
  • Quest help system
  • Dialogue changes to give MC better guidance, removed "wait and do nothing" scene
  • Streamlined crafting, batch crafting
  • Upgradeable build materials (eg. Iron-> silver-> gold etc.)
  • Improved dungeon mechanics
  • Level dependent loot amount, less rando
  • Accessible inventory
  • Difficulty setup and skip options at new game start
  • Save game compatible to V0.4 (unless you have a corrupted V0.4 RC3 save-game w/ “no ero novel” bug”)

Public release of these features will be downstream with V0.5 (M07 patreon, E07 Public)
 

Larryjcr

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Anyone know how to craft a weapon to get past the spectral slime in the lower dungeon? Great game up to this point, but now I'm stuck.
 

mime95

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Anyone know how to craft a weapon to get past the spectral slime in the lower dungeon? Great game up to this point, but now I'm stuck.
If you read the lore books, you eventually get a recipe for a Spectral Bomb, or you can try different recipes.
 
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