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Understandable but that’s the plan. The power of friendship >>>I think you made amarillis and his forces too powerfull for the little time our protagonist has to get ready... one month would go too fast.
Thanks for giving it a shot. Hope you give it another try when there’s more content!i love good stories, but i am afraid i just gave up on it, not because of the slow burn that had nothing to do with the reason i stopped reading, it's just far too convoluted for me. Good luck with the game though.
Yeah sorry about that. It felt short to me too in terms of playtime but I told myself it at least put the plot out there (finally). I don’t know if I said this here but I’ll add more to this episode.I felt that this update was a bit short but maybe that's because I'm really enjoying this game. The humor on this one is really good
Btw Leliana is such a cutie
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Can't wait to see more of her
Hey man first of all thanks for your work, dumb question, with so many girls I'm a little lost, who of the girls are LI's? and who are side girls?
Now it can be a thing that shows his progression, if he finally starts picking up his sword, when shit goes down. Would have been a wasted opportunity, if he was already casually carrying it around.About the carrying the sword around topic : idk man like I said in some other post here I really didn’t think that much about it because I knew I wasn’t going to introduce action scenes just yet but I guess I should’ve made him carry it around. This is a laid back mc that thought having a sword is ‘cool’ and I guess that was my justification of him not giving a shit. Up until now, no one is really expecting shit to go down but if you played ep5, you know that the mc now knows things are going to get real.
My thought about the sword is that he didn't carry it around because he didn't have a scabbard and belt for it (at least, I don't remember there being one).About the carrying the sword around topic : idk man like I said in some other post here I really didn’t think that much about it because I knew I wasn’t going to introduce action scenes just yet but I guess I should’ve made him carry it around. This is a laid back mc that thought having a sword is ‘cool’ and I guess that was my justification of him not giving a shit. Up until now, no one is really expecting shit to go down but if you played ep5, you know that the mc now knows things are going to get real. I think I replied to most of the comments but if I missed something out, feel free to ping or dm me. I struggle browsing on my phone.
edit : your sword carrying points are valid. But if you think this breaks the illusion of medieval, just think of those bikinis that showed up in a previous episode![]()
Romans knew bikinis, perhaps it wasn't forgotten in the Middle AgesAbout the carrying the sword around topic : idk man like I said in some other post here I really didn’t think that much about it because I knew I wasn’t going to introduce action scenes just yet but I guess I should’ve made him carry it around. This is a laid back mc that thought having a sword is ‘cool’ and I guess that was my justification of him not giving a shit. Up until now, no one is really expecting shit to go down but if you played ep5, you know that the mc now knows things are going to get real. I think I replied to most of the comments but if I missed something out, feel free to ping or dm me. I struggle browsing on my phone.
edit : your sword carrying points are valid. But if you think this breaks the illusion of medieval, just think of those bikinis that showed up in a previous episode![]()
It's not that there are too many LI's, there can never be enough of them, but, it's what will happen to them, how they are woven into the story, and whether they really add much value except for eye candy to the story, because if it's just the later to add a little extra something, which is nothing more than eye candy, I can totally agree with the sentiment of too many LI's.top story, pacing a little slow? fast? idk really depends on how long the dev wants the game to be. too many LI potentials and all beautiful damn. And cant wait for some action with lyra
Can’t speak for every other Dev out there but this vn will continue even if my patrons threaten to leave and I’m sure they know that too. I don’t say that with malice. I mean they know that I enjoy what I do. The people who stick around are there for a reason. If you were one of my patrons, you’d know how many times I’ve paused payments even while working because I don’t do it for the money. I’ve already been blessed with much more than I could’ve imagined so I have no reason to beat around the bush with the story.It's not that there are too many LI's, there can never be enough of them, but, it's what will happen to them, how they are woven into the story, and whether they really add much value except for eye candy to the story, because if it's just the later to add a little extra something, which is nothing more than eye candy, I can totally agree with the sentiment of too many LI's.
It's about how much money can be stretched out of the patreon and or subscribe.star subscribers, and how long they are willing to wait, by which I simply mean, taking as long as possible, deliberately taking an age to get a story told, so that he/she can keep raking in money from the game. It's the way things are, and if subscribers are sick and tired of any dev taking an age, no matter how good a game it is, it's down to them to force the dev to speed up or he looses valuable subscribers.
Now that's a good disposition to have!Can’t speak for every other Dev out there but this vn will continue even if my patrons threaten to leave and I’m sure they know that too. I don’t say that with malice. I mean they know that I enjoy what I do. The people who stick around are there for a reason. If you were one of my patrons, you’d know how many times I’ve paused payments even while working because I don’t do it for the money. I’ve already been blessed with much more than I could’ve imagined so I have no reason to beat around the bush with the story.
Sometimes an episode is well received and sometimes it’s not. It’s just how it is. That doesn’t mean I’m going to change the pace of the story because I’m scared people will lose interest. This started as a random project by a casual VN enthusiast (me). I’m only still doing it because I enjoy it.
If that wasn’t targeted at me specifically, I apologize. I only responded because it’s in this thread.![]()
Your game is great and unique!Can’t speak for every other Dev out there but this vn will continue even if my patrons threaten to leave and I’m sure they know that too. I don’t say that with malice. I mean they know that I enjoy what I do. The people who stick around are there for a reason. If you were one of my patrons, you’d know how many times I’ve paused payments even while working because I don’t do it for the money. I’ve already been blessed with much more than I could’ve imagined so I have no reason to beat around the bush with the story.
Sometimes an episode is well received and sometimes it’s not. It’s just how it is. That doesn’t mean I’m going to change the pace of the story because I’m scared people will lose interest. This started as a random project by a casual VN enthusiast (me). I’m only still doing it because I enjoy it.
If that wasn’t targeted at me specifically, I apologize. I only responded because it’s in this thread.![]()
But you like all the VNs. In fact, you've told me that you haven't met a VN you didn't like. You're a VN manwhore!Now that's a good disposition to have!
No wonder I like your VN![]()
Oh there are VN's I don't like but I stop playing them and then forget about them, I don't hang around their threads to complainBut you like all the VNs. In fact, you've told me that you haven't met a VN you didn't like. You're a VN manwhore!![]()
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I always kinda figured you avoided them holding weapons and wearing packs because of the game engine limitations you're using. I'd prefer to see them carrying around that stuff, but yeah these VN's aren't usually ideal for realism.About the carrying the sword around topic : idk man like I said in some other post here I really didn’t think that much about it because I knew I wasn’t going to introduce action scenes just yet but I guess I should’ve made him carry it around. This is a laid back mc that thought having a sword is ‘cool’ and I guess that was my justification of him not giving a shit. Up until now, no one is really expecting shit to go down but if you played ep5, you know that the mc now knows things are going to get real. I think I replied to most of the comments but if I missed something out, feel free to ping or dm me. I struggle browsing on my phone.
edit : your sword carrying points are valid. But if you think this breaks the illusion of medieval, just think of those bikinis that showed up in a previous episode![]()
Ok. So what?Oh there are VN's I don't like but I stop playing them and then forget about them, I don't hang around their threads to complain![]()
I can somewhat understand the argument that the MC should be carrying around his sword more often given the namesake of the story. However I saw it as a stylistic approach on your part considering that you established the relaxed nature of him within the first chapter. It also follows the "Rebirth" plot type to a tee as he encounters an obstacle which forces him to change his personality in order to triumph (i.e. kill vampires).About the carrying the sword around topic : idk man like I said in some other post here I really didn’t think that much about it because I knew I wasn’t going to introduce action scenes just yet but I guess I should’ve made him carry it around. This is a laid back mc that thought having a sword is ‘cool’ and I guess that was my justification of him not giving a shit. Up until now, no one is really expecting shit to go down but if you played ep5, you know that the mc now knows things are going to get real. I think I replied to most of the comments but if I missed something out, feel free to ping or dm me. I struggle browsing on my phone.
edit : your sword carrying points are valid. But if you think this breaks the illusion of medieval, just think of those bikinis that showed up in a previous episode![]()
Chapter 5 had the difficult task of progressing the plot towards the climax of act 1 alongside setting up elements for the next act. Additionally, we did see some significant relationship developments with one of the LIs, probably the most important one within the story (hint: Luneira). We also saw a bit of development in the relationship between Lyra and the MC with the increase in affection she's been showing.Ugh the mc barely got any screen time in this recent update, is that how it'll be from now on? other characters taking up the screen time? I might just wait till the game is near completion if that's the case, i'm only here for the MC and LIs
This is a good argument in terms of number of LIs introduced into an VN. I've come across a few devs (not going to name and shame since their fans are a literal cult) that resort to adding new characters to the story in an effort to keep themselves interested in finishing the story. The issue with too many LIs is compounded further by most devs' desire to make their story choice driven rather than taking the kinetic/superficial approach. It leads to sloppy writing, poor character development, and nonsensical plot points that deviate from the already established status quo, so to say.It's not that there are too many LI's, there can never be enough of them, but, it's what will happen to them, how they are woven into the story, and whether they really add much value except for eye candy to the story, because if it's just the later to add a little extra something, which is nothing more than eye candy, I can totally agree with the sentiment of too many LI's.
Ok?Ok. So what?
You do realize that everything on the internet gets feedback, scores, etc. Look at Steam, GOG, Amazon, Rotten Tomatoes - to expect there to not be critique on nearly anything produced or sold online is... odd.
thanks for the feedback! I hope it’s clear that I dont hate constructive criticism because I feel like I’m still and always learning. So it’s always nice to see what others think especially when it’s put across so well like this. I guess I’m too much of a weeb sometimes and just love throwing in silly humor even for badass characters because that’s what I loved in most anime - when you realize this goofy mf can take on an entire village. Granted, that shouldn’t be the way to write all the time, I definitely understand the humor needs to be balanced with the drama more now because the plot is out there.So...... some honest thoughts about the latest update.
Please bear in mind that following is just to provide some constructive criticism, and is by no means meant to offend or bash CaramelCowboy and this game in any way.
I played the update and I guess it was....... just okay?
I quite liked Amaris's scenes towards the end (update does a really good job of hyping him up as the villain and his motives), and scenes of Ivar & Vera, and Ivar, Vera as well as King Alaric which discusses things to come were good also.
To add, I am looking forward to the history between MC's mom as Swordbearer and the previous leader of the vampires which does sound interesting, and I do kinda like Luneira as a character.
Having said that, the best girl Nevaeha is missing for most of the update.
Okay, jokes (partially joking, since I actually see Nevaeha as the best girl lol) aside though, bigger issue I found with this update is that I think it went too overboard with the humor.
Until now, it was always MC, Aren, Lyra trio.
Aren was always typically the one who handled a lot of jokes/funny scenes, and more often than not, acted like a doofus, with MC and Lyra playing off that humor as being a bit more serious/reasonable ones of the trio compared to Aren.
However, in this update Aren isn't in it a lot, and a lot of scenes are our MC by himself interacting with other characters (like Ava, Leliana, Astrid).
With this, the update has MC spouting jokes at almost every turn acting cocky, and behaving like a doofus many times? Making him be like an Aren clone in terms of personality?
And it's not even the matter of MC being competent.
MC can and should make mistakes at this point (like his training with Astrid), it's only natural given he's a newbie in the Knights guild, but even so dialing the jokester/doofus factor up to 11 just felt......weird, and out of character, especially compared to how I remember he acted like in the story till now.
Felt like the game was somehow compensating for Aren's large absence of acting like an idiot by force-injecting tons of unnecessary humor into the MC which I really thought wasn't needed.
Actually it would have been better off without them, given I feel they make his characterization and tone of the game inconsistent.
So yeah.
Hope I was able to make my point across.
As said in advance, just providing some constructive feedback on the update.
I still like the game a lot and will continue to follow it to see how this journey goes.
So my intentions about Nevaeha making Astrid train mc are that Astrid is the only person from Nevaeha’s past who’s still with her so she’s one of the few people who know who she is (she has a story that will come up that you can be a part of) , which is why she trusts Astrid with such an important task. Remember that Ivar is the person to really bring out mcs strength while Nevaeha(now Astrid) is only tasked with making him somewhat decent before Ivar steps in so it’s very general training.As for me, I also found it kinda odd/weird, that Nevaeha just dumped the responsibility of training MC off to Astrid, like MC was a random courier package.
I mean, isn't she supposed to already be in the know from Ivar that MC is the next Swordbearer?
Given that she's been with Ivar and even was close surveilling MC trying to keep him safe, I would have thought she would have taken training MC a bit more seriously when Ivar asked her to.
And yes, her pride got a bit hurt by almost losing to her enemy in that previous update (saying "I got rusty in this time of time of peace") but I thought training MC as best as possible would take precedence over her own training, even if she wasn't aware of the 1 month limit that Alaric, Vera, Ivar found ou
Yeah that too. I said this somewhere here that finding an accessory where the sword really fits was a pain since these assets are so limited. Kinda wish I knew how to 3d model. I had one I used in the beginning of the VN but the geometry needed to be edited a lot depending on the camera angle. It ended up taking more time than creating the scene (on my old laptop). Maybe I can revisit the same asset now that I have a faster machine. Also there are so many scenes where someone bends or angles themselves for example and the sword just looked weird sticking out of their hip - which made me rotate the belt to angle it correctly which then made the asset look horrible.I always kinda figured you avoided them holding weapons and wearing packs because of the game engine limitations you're using. I'd prefer to see them carrying around that stuff, but yeah these VN's aren't usually ideal for realism.
Pretty good story so far, I'm usually a sucker for "the hero's journey" stuff.