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Agnes can be a lesbian but with that character that will be at the end of the game and both Rebecca and Paula won't be able to be a lesbian at any point? and with Agnes, Rebecca and Paula will there be unavoidable scenes with guys?Thanks to everyone posting !!!!
There are some things in this life I am confident about. Writing and making a porn game ? Not one of them =D
Funnily enough, kind of yes. When I play the submission route in some games I always hate that the characters don't have any kind of choice. At some point I select the "Hell no, I am not doing that" option if present and she generally does it anyway =(
For instance, you can cock-block this particular old fat ugly bastard by repeating that scene, was it 3?, times. He will still be there and have interactions in future updates, but how much of a pet Paula is by that time depends entirely on the player.
Said so, what is the point of a submission game if you don't make the female protag submit ?
Cock is a great plot device. There, I said it =D
Jokes apart, you can probably turn Agnes into a full lesbian by the end of the game if that's the path you choose. But Paula and Rebeca are out of the question.
Rebeca will definitely interact with men and she will also act submissive in some scenarios, but since the player knows she is acting it kind of loses the appeal IMO. Making Rebeca more submissive for real breaks her character, the story and even the coding =D
I try balancing the multi-protag issue out by making the stories inter-connected. But yeah, it is bound to happen. Hopefully by the end of the story the contributions of each character make sense.
Female Femdom ? Yeahh !!!!!
"beating the crap out of her". Well, if the co-protagonist was Natalie instead of Rebeca, shit would hit the fan very quickly. Rebeca is much more civil =D
the only character who can become a lesbian at the end has a husband and there's unavoidable scenes with him and a neighbor. Why does there have to be males who blackmail and are perves on the female mc/mcs and not women, futas, or buff masculine women instead or some psycho chick who wears all black, has piercings, tattoos or all of the above. Or a yandere. Sigh. Thanks for letting me know.Yes it's a bit (alot) annoying that some scenes are unavoidable, like with the neighbour or agnes's husband. Also i noticed that you cand miss some scenes if you pick something different (ex. if you dont masturbate at home while playing as agnes) and i was wondering if i did something wrong cause i could not find the sex scene with erika after the cinema in the new release, and i was looking forward to that scene.
i want nothing to with the perverts in this game, i dont want to be touched, groped, fingered, i only want a lesbo path nothing else
This game is a "realistic" masterpiece that dramaturgically is second to none - and you really want to turn it into a regular or female-only game that there are hundreds of already?Why does there have to be males who blackmail and are perves on the female mc/mcs and not women, futas, or buff masculine women instead
if the game has the female protagonist and lesbian tags in it I'd personally would like to have the choices and options to avoid any situation with guys and playing as a female protagonist in a game with the lesbian tag I'd prefer if the character I'm playing as isn't a weak damsel in distress who lets guys do whatever they want. Nor would I want the character to be forced into anything. There's way more games with a hetero mc than there are of games with a lesbian mc or a female mc who can be a lesbian. There's a lot of games where you're a female mc who's a bimbo. Then there are games where although there a lesbian scenes you have go through a bunch of hetero scenes before you get there. I'd like a story where you aren't forced into anything and if you find yourself in a bad situation you have the option to fight back and get yourself out of it. Especially if you play as a female. Even with realism in it, it's still a game. And in real life there are 3 responses to situations. Fight, flight, or freezing up. But some reason in games with a female mc they will always just freeze up and let it happen. And since the player is in control of the mc it's not realistic if you can't decide what your character does in situations. If there were no choices in the game then it would make sense. Because you're not in control of the mc. You're just following their story. I don't like when you're giving control but in certain situations it's taken from you and you have no choice but to go through that situation seeing your character being taken advantage of or mistreated.This game is a "realistic" masterpiece that dramaturgically is second to none - and you really want to turn it into a regular or female-only game that there are hundreds of already?
Would it help you to just fast-skip the scenes you cannot bear to experience?
the fucked up thing is would be the choice that doesnt make fucking sense dude. i chose to just go meet anton from the bus and it leads to a me getting humiliated by richard even tho i avoided him from the get go.This game is a "realistic" masterpiece that dramaturgically is second to none - and you really want to turn it into a regular or female-only game that there are hundreds of already?
Would it help you to just fast-skip the scenes you cannot bear to experience?
aye well fuckind said i agree dude.if the game has the female protagonist and lesbian tags in it I'd personally would like to have the choices and options to avoid any situation with guys and playing as a female protagonist in a game with the lesbian tag I'd prefer if the character I'm playing as isn't a weak damsel in distress who lets guys do whatever they want. Nor would I want the character to be forced into anything. There's way more games with a hetero mc than there are of games with a lesbian mc or a female mc who can be a lesbian. There's a lot of games where you're a female mc who's a bimbo. Then there are games where although there a lesbian scenes you have go through a bunch of hetero scenes before you get there. I'd like a story where you aren't forced into anything and if you find yourself in a bad situation you have the option to fight back and get yourself out of it. Especially if you play as a female. Even with realism in it, it's still a game. And in real life there are 3 responses to situations. Fight, flight, or freezing up. But some reason in games with a female mc they will always just freeze up and let it happen. And since the player is in control of the mc it's not realistic if you can't decide what your character does in situations. If there were no choices in the game then it would make sense. Because you're not in control of the mc. You're just following their story.
These are two types of games you are describing. The former is a sandbox-like game where you have full freedom of choice, but the story is most of the times rather thin because of the multiple possible paths. The latter is a kniectic novel where you only consume. A very dense story, but it often feels told and not lived by yourself, because you have no influence at all.And since the player is in control of the mc it's not realistic if you can't decide what your character does in situations. If there were no choices in the game then it would make sense. Because you're not in control of the mc. You're just following their story. I don't like when you're giving control but in certain situations it's taken from you and you have no choice but to go through that situation seeing your character being taken advantage of or mistreated.
it just seems to be with only a female mc where you can have choices in a game but when it involves some creep, perv, weirdo, douchebag or all of the above you have no options. Just have to let it happen or even if the character does fight back it doesn't do anything which makes the option pointless. If you want to play a weak female mc that should imo being one of the options not the option. A dev can of course do what they want it's just a personal issue I have. It's like even if I get to where I want that being lesbian stuff I had to go through a bunch of nonsense to get there and the lesbian stuff is fleeting before you go right back into more nonsense. Maybe I'm just expecting too much in thinking the way I do. But when I see the lesbian and female mc tag I don't expect to be forced into anything with guys. I'm thinking there's a lesbian only path even with other tags in the game like blackmail etc. I'd hope you'll be able to not just lay down and let people walk over you.aye well fuckind said i agree dude.
a game where you play as a female that also has the lesbian tag in the game and there's no pure lesbian path and you don't have complete freedom of choice and there are forced scenes with guys just isn't for me.These are two types of games you are describing. The former is a sandbox-like game where you have full freedom of choice, but the story is most of the times rather thin because of the multiple possible paths. The latter is a kniectic novel where you only consume. A very dense story, but it often feels told and not lived by yourself, because you have no influence at all.
But there is at least a third design choice: Having a rather clear story, but letting you choose within the story boundaries. This seemes to be the concept JustXThings chose for this game: Telling a rather dark story, but letting you choose a little, how dark you like it.
So if I am not misinterpreting JustXThings's approach, he wants to tell a dark story of characters that interact with male und female partners and also want to work with forcing situations - that's why he is not at Patreon for example.
Playing the game without these aspects would deliver a rather different game, but not this masterpiece.
Question might be: Does he want to create his fantasy and only share it with us, or is he trying to create a commercially successful game that satisfies his customers. It might all come down to a matter of perspective and personal favourites. I fortuitously like the creators vision completely. You can always regret that the artist does not share your own vision. But I don't know if it is very productive to regret that the Mona Lisa is a girl and not a boy for example.
Thanks for explaining. Maybe this is a problem of people (me included) naturally intrerpreting tag the way they think themselves. For me, for example, "lesbian" only means that there might be some erotic scenes between females. For me, it is (wrongly) almost the same as bisexual.Maybe I'm just expecting too much in thinking the way I do. But when I see the lesbian and female mc tag I don't expect to be forced into anything with guys.
I get the 'is content XYZ avoidable ?' a bit. Content might be avoidable if it is not required for the story to go forward. But most of things that are happening are shaping the mentality of the characters. Extreme content will always be avoidable (looking at you Natalie and poor Rebeca's bad ending).
thats exactly the way i thought it was going to be like, avoiding the men an to to be lesbian only.it just seems to be with only a female mc where you can have choices in a game but when it involves some creep, perv, weirdo, douchebag or all of the above you have no options. Just have to let it happen or even if the character does fight back it doesn't do anything which makes the option pointless. If you want to play a weak female mc that should imo being one of the options not the option. A dev can of course do what they want it's just a personal issue I have. It's like even if I get to where I want that being lesbian stuff I had to go through a bunch of nonsense to get there and the lesbian stuff is fleeting before you go right back into more nonsense. Maybe I'm just expecting too much in thinking the way I do. But when I see the lesbian and female mc tag I don't expect to be forced into anything with guys. I'm thinking there's a lesbian only path even with other tags in the game like blackmail etc. I'd hope you'll be able to not just lay down and let people walk over you.
You're welcome. I get that people might interpret those tags differently. But I don't get why the lesbian tag if there's going to be interaction with men with the female mc or mcs. I assume I'll have the option to just be a lesbian when I see those 2 tags. Even if I have to go through a bunch of hetero stuff I don't think the female mc or mcs would be involved in any of it if I didn't or don't want them to be. Even if it isn't graphic I'm thinking I'd have the option to have no interaction with men. That's just what I'm thinking. And what I'd personally would like to have happen or see in a game. And if there's confusion with those tags that's a problem. I'd prefer the female mc or mcs who's done nothing sexual with anyone and has the option to do sexual things with other females only. I wish there were more games like that. If you're not already playing as a lesbian who's only had experiences with other females. And I get that it's not what the dev is going for and it's not their vision but with there being more than one female mc I was hoping one of them could or would be like that. Just solely interactions with females both romantic and sexual.Thanks for explaining. Maybe this is a problem of people (me included) naturally intrerpreting tag the way they think themselves. For me, for example, "lesbian" only means that there might be some erotic scenes between females. For me, it is (wrongly) almost the same as bisexual.
So you were happy for something and did not get it. I can understand that you are disappointed - even though I like the game exactly as it is. Always having an option to avoid content you dont favor feels different than having to go through it. This is scarse in visual novels, partially because of Patreon's rules that does not allow true blackmailing.
But let's listen to the developer in the starting post, he said it more concise than I could: