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JetZ

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Well, to be accurate, the whole game is pretty optional...
Just don't play the game if you don't like the content. If you say that Billy is optional, everything is.

But KST's time isn't "optional". This is the key resource to manage in this project.

People who complain about Billy's content want to see KST give them what they want rather than answering to the requests of another group of users.

It's a fight for attention to get the rare resource (developer time).

Myself, I'm not really into the game. I'm more interested in business aspects and the innovative concepts in the genre. And I think that Billy's content is "original".
Thanks to it, I learned a new concept. NTR. never heard of it. But apparently it's a thing in Japan.

And personally, I find the harem idea a bit old fashioned. The MC in the game gets all the girls in the world. It was fine in the beginning. Can't have an MC not getting his way with women in a game with sexual content.

But it breaks the charm and realism of the game. When the MC is a genius at getting women into his bed... It ruins the story and make it less believable. Maybe add a choice? Get this girl but lose this girl.

And having the MC surrounded with tall, mature women is cool. I'm a bit tired of the hentai girls, small, cute, innocent etc... I like the concept of older mature kinky women. Tall, strong, beautiful rather than cute.

I think it's a real plus in the game. I think KST is Russian or something of the kind. You can feel there is some "balls" in the cultural mix.

So... All in all, KST made some choices. And about Billy's... Personally, I dislike the stereotype of the fat nerd playing world of warcraft. I find it disgusting and boring. It exists, for sure, but I hate it. It gives a bad image to gamers.

Why can't we be athletic, sociable, smart, wise, skilled and awesome individuals who can achieve anything in life... and still enjoy a video game with our friends.
Why do we have to be losers to be gamers? Aren't games about problem solving? Acquiring skills? Being awesome? Working together? communicating? Cooperating? Challenging our limits? And yet, we get stuck with the fat silly gamer stereotype with Billy... I dislike him for that. Just for that.

But others love it. Maybe it's like those Japanese porn genres where there is an old ugly dude enjoying young and pretty girls? I don't know... maybe it's the contrast that makes it interesting?

Porn sites made a study explaining the success of amateur genres. They say that average looking women are sexy because they are believable. Users think they can get such women in bed with them. While porn stars with fake bodies and tons of make up look unreachable.

Can't be sure. Watch and see.
billy path is optional is not my word but from KST himself,
plus he's not in the wrong taking suggestion from his supporters tho,
rather than listening to people that doesn't support him but demanding stuffs from him imo

and he's german if i'm not mistaken the last time i talked to him in DM while asking about the game development, (i could be wrong tho on this so don't quote me what nationality KST is lol)
NTR is a thing here in japan for a very long time,
the word itself came from japanese language it's just shortened as NTR
it depends on which type of NTR that people are talking about,
and what Billy is doing in this game is nowhere close to what NTR is,
he's not even stealing Janice from Jason lmfao,
people just have some misunderstanding about the meaning of NTR,

anyway...
regarding about Billy's being fat, KST did mention saying he's not that fat, it's just him making billy look too fat
but he never had any intention on making billy looking that fat, just a bit chubby
i forgot which post on patreon but i did see that reply one time,
 

Snugglepuff

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I'm 90% certain it's not related to amount of content to be loaded. About the same delay happens whether I run the game from a spinning hard disk, or an NVME SSD or even ramdisk.
It rather seems to be a blanket fade in/out transition for every room change, unrelated to amount of stories/poses that take place. Removing it would be even easier than trimming down content.
The fade-in when loading locations used to be a lot shorter in general, but became noticeably longer in different areas as more and more content was added to those locations, especially multiple events that can all happen in the same times as others in that location.
It started becoming an issue a couple of years ago, first noticed iirc with the living room during the day time.
 

sskcod

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billy path is optional is not my word but from KST himself,
plus he's not in the wrong taking suggestion from his supporters tho,
rather than listening to people that doesn't support him but demanding stuffs from him imo
I agree with you in general principle, but I would disagree with a small part.
Billy's path is optional, yes. This is what KST says to people who hate NTR content.
You have to know that many people come to this forum and in KST's channels to say, a bit worried even, "is NTR avoidable?".
Some people really care about the characters and the story, they identify hard with the MC or whatever... So for them, NTR is devastating.
Like in the other face of that same coin, some people freak out (positively) when they get NTR content.
For me, it's just a game, I don't care. So I don't understand. But for them... It's almost a true story happening.

So yes, it's avoidable. But when KST works for the opposite crowd, you "lost" in a figure of speech. KST's time isn't "avoidable".

And yes, you have to take feedback from the supporters. Absolutely true.
But for me, KST made a HUGE mistake when he closed his suggestion channels to non-supporters. That's terrible business strategy from my perspective.

Imagine that if you had a revolutionary idea to transmit to KST. Like the idea that would make this game popular to millions of people. That would make KST super rich and super powerful to make a legendary game... But the day you took the time to put it into words and to send it to KST... You discovered that you had to give money first before sending it...

Opportunity lost for KST. Because he wanted to focus on the feedback from supporters only... What a loss, what a shame.

Feedback is support. Some give money, it's good and useful. Others give their time and creativity and attention. It's support too.

On this forum, you can see Anon helping lost players and helping them with bugs and issues. I think that individual was more valuable to KST than the average supporter. Just an example.

and he's german if i'm not mistaken the last time i talked to him in DM while asking about the game development, (i could be wrong tho on this so don't quote me what nationality KST is lol)
German? Okay. But like I said, it looks like there is some "balls" in the cultural mix. Good for Germany if it's the case.

NTR is a thing here in japan for a very long time,
the word itself came from japanese language it's just shortened as NTR
it depends on which type of NTR that people are talking about,
and what Billy is doing in this game is nowhere close to what NTR is,
he's not even stealing Janice from Jason lmfao,
people just have some misunderstanding about the meaning of NTR,
Well, excuse me, but it's Japanese to me. Haha. Excuse me if I don't understand the subtle differences.
But it was a very new concept to me. I was always into getting girls as a source of pleasure, since forever. And this form of "pleasure" is very alien to me. Completely alien to me. And to be quite honest, it's quite alien and impossible to understand to me.
Gaining a woman's favor = pleasure. Then with NTR, it looks like losing a woman's favors to another person = pleasure.
How? I don't know. I would call them crazy. It's really counter-intuitive.
So, it's not my thing.
Looks like a kink I don't have. Like S&M content. I don't like being humiliated or whipped or humiliating or whipping someone. So... Color me as a basic person.
But it's nice to see a developer try to please a niche and small kink in a small population.

anyway...
regarding about Billy's being fat, KST did mention saying he's not that fat, it's just him making billy look too fat
but he never had any intention on making billy looking that fat, just a bit chubby
i forgot which post on patreon but i did see that reply one time,
Fine with me. But I really hate the stereotype of the fat nerdy gamer... I just hate it.
 

banlu

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hi
does anyone have this problem in the kitchen scene where you want to "do it raw" with Janice in the kitchen but the game stucks, it won't load animation but is still able to rotate camera around ..
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i've also attached the save file, to trigger this problem, once loaded, wait 1 hour Janice will appear in the kitchen then follow the choices "touch her" > "continue" > "pull down pants" > "do it raw" .. this is where it gets stuck View attachment playerInfo.dat
thank you
 

JetZ

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On this forum, you can see Anon helping lost players and helping them with bugs and issues. I think that individual was more valuable to KST than the average supporter. Just an example.
hahah it's ok if we disagree in some stuffs,everybody has their own perspective right ?
about anon, well he's in kst patreon as well,
and he's been there way longer than i do i think,
but i rarely post here until recently tbh, i usually hangs around BaDIK thread and off topic thread

regarding NTR, like i said tho what billy is doing with Janice in this game is not even categorized as NTR
not even cheating tbh, it's more into sharing/swinging category
that's why i said there's a misconception of NTR,
and from what i've seen at least in most threads that i visited, anything that touches MC's love interest other than MC will go to the 3 letters of doom category most of the time
 
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Anon4321

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hi
does anyone have this problem in the kitchen scene where you want to "do it raw" with Janice in the kitchen but the game stucks, it won't load animation but is still able to rotate camera around ..
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i've also attached the save file, to trigger this problem, once loaded, wait 1 hour Janice will appear in the kitchen then follow the choices "touch her" > "continue" > "pull down pants" > "do it raw" .. this is where it gets stuck View attachment 1251701
thank you
After testing your save, found it happened because of the Plan B pills, which is odd, because since you were out of them, it should be missing from your inventory
And so after checking the "mpills" variables, I found it was -1, this can only happen if it was changed manually, and as a result was the cause of the issue you were having, did you by any chance use the cheat mod to change it.

If you did, I would recommend changing it back, you can't have negative numbers and the number of pill can't exceed the amount they're meant to be.
 
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banlu

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After testing your save, found it happened because of the Plan B pills, which is odd, because since you were out of them, it should be missing from your inventory
And so after checking the "mpills" variables, I found it was -1, this can only happen if it was changed manually, and as a result was the cause of the issue you were having, did you by any chance use the cheat mod to change it.

If you did, I would recommend changing it back, you can't have negative numbers and the number of pill can't exceed the amount they're meant to be.
thank you sir, i did not use any cheats since the beginning of the game, i had the pill since early days of the game in inventory and i also wondered how i got it as well, god bless + wish you healthy & wealthy
 
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yo, does this game work on a i3 laptop with Integrated graphics? I have played Watchdogs 1, Assasins creed upto rogue nation on this on this.
 

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yo, does this game work on a i3 laptop with Integrated graphics? I have played Watchdogs 1, Assasins creed upto rogue nation on this on this.
BTW, does this run on Wine linux?
Yes, it works on Linux with Wine, but you will experience a lot of crashes (memory leaks) and long transition time between locations the longer you play.

Honestly, the game isn't worth the effort.
 
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