zaxrider29

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How can i get the magnet from billy's garage?
632. The next day after school approach Billy. Click on "Ask for advice how to find a key". Billy tells Jason that he could use a magnet to find the key.
633. Go to Billy's home and knock on the door. Get the scene where Rachel opens the door and calls Billy. Click on "Ask about the magnet". Billy found the magnet in the garage.
He gives Jason the magnet and asks him to find an ancient coin. Jason agrees to find it.
634. Go to the beach. When no one is there, click on "Search for Kendra's key". Jason uses the magnet and finds Kendra's key.
 

Snugglepuff

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Apr 27, 2017
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Playing this game without the walkthrough would be goddamned impossible, bless the honourable soul who maintains it.
Pretty sure it's always been KST who makes the walkthrough as well.

Whilst that's a good thing, it's also bad.
Bad, because it means he's deliberately structured the game the way it is, with doing things in a very specific way/order, which has been one of the game's biggest points of criticism.
 

Hentaiman87

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Even with a decent dedicated graphics card the transitions between scenes are really slow, hopefully he will change that in his new game.
 

HillDweller

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I'm 90% certain it's not related to amount of content to be loaded. About the same delay happens whether I run the game from a spinning hard disk, or an NVME SSD or even ramdisk.
It rather seems to be a blanket fade in/out transition for every room change, unrelated to amount of stories/poses that take place. Removing it would be even easier than trimming down content.
 

primalhunt

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i dont like about Billy and Janice sorry, when we will see Jason with Kendra again or with Kelly ?
The developer has written repeatedly that Twist's story is already complete. We'll see 0.45 and 0.46 updates...he mentioned in a conversation with his patrons that there would be an update on Billy's story and possibly an update on the scene with Janice on the pier)
the public version of the new game Seaside Mystery is coming out soon and he (the developer) will be completely dedicated only to it... at most will be correcting mistakes in Twist.
 

JetZ

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i dont like about Billy and Janice sorry, when we will see Jason with Kendra again or with Kelly ?
as much as i know most people don't like about Billy and Janice in this thread,
on his discord and mainly on patreon most comments are all about billy and janice,
but billy and janice is always an optional path,

plus he did mention that the main plot of the twist is already completed (which means if u use the incest patch and play the game, that final revelations about janice is actually the main plot of the whole game hence the name of the game)
there will be more jason with the others coming on the update,
but i can't say much about kendra since he haven't mentioned kendra in any reply i've seen
 

sskcod

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as much as i know most people don't like about Billy and Janice in this thread,
on his discord and mainly on patreon most comments are all about billy and janice,
but billy and janice is always an optional path,

plus he did mention that the main plot of the twist is already completed (which means if u use the incest patch and play the game, that final revelations about janice is actually the main plot of the whole game hence the name of the game)
there will be more jason with the others coming on the update,
but i can't say much about kendra since he haven't mentioned kendra in any reply i've seen
Well, to be accurate, the whole game is pretty optional...
Just don't play the game if you don't like the content. If you say that Billy is optional, everything is.

But KST's time isn't "optional". This is the key resource to manage in this project.

People who complain about Billy's content want to see KST give them what they want rather than answering to the requests of another group of users.

It's a fight for attention to get the rare resource (developer time).

Myself, I'm not really into the game. I'm more interested in business aspects and the innovative concepts in the genre. And I think that Billy's content is "original".
Thanks to it, I learned a new concept. NTR. never heard of it. But apparently it's a thing in Japan.

And personally, I find the harem idea a bit old fashioned. The MC in the game gets all the girls in the world. It was fine in the beginning. Can't have an MC not getting his way with women in a game with sexual content.

But it breaks the charm and realism of the game. When the MC is a genius at getting women into his bed... It ruins the story and make it less believable. Maybe add a choice? Get this girl but lose this girl.

And having the MC surrounded with tall, mature women is cool. I'm a bit tired of the hentai girls, small, cute, innocent etc... I like the concept of older mature kinky women. Tall, strong, beautiful rather than cute.

I think it's a real plus in the game. I think KST is Russian or something of the kind. You can feel there is some "balls" in the cultural mix.

So... All in all, KST made some choices. And about Billy's... Personally, I dislike the stereotype of the fat nerd playing world of warcraft. I find it disgusting and boring. It exists, for sure, but I hate it. It gives a bad image to gamers.

Why can't we be athletic, sociable, smart, wise, skilled and awesome individuals who can achieve anything in life... and still enjoy a video game with our friends.
Why do we have to be losers to be gamers? Aren't games about problem solving? Acquiring skills? Being awesome? Working together? communicating? Cooperating? Challenging our limits? And yet, we get stuck with the fat silly gamer stereotype with Billy... I dislike him for that. Just for that.

But others love it. Maybe it's like those Japanese porn genres where there is an old ugly dude enjoying young and pretty girls? I don't know... maybe it's the contrast that makes it interesting?

Porn sites made a study explaining the success of amateur genres. They say that average looking women are sexy because they are believable. Users think they can get such women in bed with them. While porn stars with fake bodies and tons of make up look unreachable.

Can't be sure. Watch and see.
 

JetZ

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Jan 16, 2017
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Well, to be accurate, the whole game is pretty optional...
Just don't play the game if you don't like the content. If you say that Billy is optional, everything is.

But KST's time isn't "optional". This is the key resource to manage in this project.

People who complain about Billy's content want to see KST give them what they want rather than answering to the requests of another group of users.

It's a fight for attention to get the rare resource (developer time).

Myself, I'm not really into the game. I'm more interested in business aspects and the innovative concepts in the genre. And I think that Billy's content is "original".
Thanks to it, I learned a new concept. NTR. never heard of it. But apparently it's a thing in Japan.

And personally, I find the harem idea a bit old fashioned. The MC in the game gets all the girls in the world. It was fine in the beginning. Can't have an MC not getting his way with women in a game with sexual content.

But it breaks the charm and realism of the game. When the MC is a genius at getting women into his bed... It ruins the story and make it less believable. Maybe add a choice? Get this girl but lose this girl.

And having the MC surrounded with tall, mature women is cool. I'm a bit tired of the hentai girls, small, cute, innocent etc... I like the concept of older mature kinky women. Tall, strong, beautiful rather than cute.

I think it's a real plus in the game. I think KST is Russian or something of the kind. You can feel there is some "balls" in the cultural mix.

So... All in all, KST made some choices. And about Billy's... Personally, I dislike the stereotype of the fat nerd playing world of warcraft. I find it disgusting and boring. It exists, for sure, but I hate it. It gives a bad image to gamers.

Why can't we be athletic, sociable, smart, wise, skilled and awesome individuals who can achieve anything in life... and still enjoy a video game with our friends.
Why do we have to be losers to be gamers? Aren't games about problem solving? Acquiring skills? Being awesome? Working together? communicating? Cooperating? Challenging our limits? And yet, we get stuck with the fat silly gamer stereotype with Billy... I dislike him for that. Just for that.

But others love it. Maybe it's like those Japanese porn genres where there is an old ugly dude enjoying young and pretty girls? I don't know... maybe it's the contrast that makes it interesting?

Porn sites made a study explaining the success of amateur genres. They say that average looking women are sexy because they are believable. Users think they can get such women in bed with them. While porn stars with fake bodies and tons of make up look unreachable.

Can't be sure. Watch and see.
billy path is optional is not my word but from KST himself,
plus he's not in the wrong taking suggestion from his supporters tho,
rather than listening to people that doesn't support him but demanding stuffs from him imo

and he's german if i'm not mistaken the last time i talked to him in DM while asking about the game development, (i could be wrong tho on this so don't quote me what nationality KST is lol)
NTR is a thing here in japan for a very long time,
the word itself came from japanese language it's just shortened as NTR
it depends on which type of NTR that people are talking about,
and what Billy is doing in this game is nowhere close to what NTR is,
he's not even stealing Janice from Jason lmfao,
people just have some misunderstanding about the meaning of NTR,

anyway...
regarding about Billy's being fat, KST did mention saying he's not that fat, it's just him making billy look too fat
but he never had any intention on making billy looking that fat, just a bit chubby
i forgot which post on patreon but i did see that reply one time,
 

Snugglepuff

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Apr 27, 2017
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I'm 90% certain it's not related to amount of content to be loaded. About the same delay happens whether I run the game from a spinning hard disk, or an NVME SSD or even ramdisk.
It rather seems to be a blanket fade in/out transition for every room change, unrelated to amount of stories/poses that take place. Removing it would be even easier than trimming down content.
The fade-in when loading locations used to be a lot shorter in general, but became noticeably longer in different areas as more and more content was added to those locations, especially multiple events that can all happen in the same times as others in that location.
It started becoming an issue a couple of years ago, first noticed iirc with the living room during the day time.
 
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