VN Ren'Py Abandoned This Is Not Heaven [Final Update 5] [Altered Vision]

[Deleted member 997153]

can I avoid Alison ? especially lesbian scene in the end of version 0.10 as a harem guy (the H in my name)

seriously? facepalm for not wanting lesbian scene ? . If that is your thing I'm not asking for it to be remove (And no tag of this justified my post) I respect every kink and I am not kink shaming, I am just asking for a way to avoid it

I also don't have a problem with adding just lesbian content as long as it is avoidable (for ex. I want to deny Alison so that she and Jill won't do anything too because Jill is only mine)

Well anyway as I have said got no problem with this bi, lesbian or homo content in this game as I just want to desperately way to avoid it with Jill .

This one its a game alright so we players definitely have a choice thats natural

I just expressed my feeling of sadness because I can't find a way to avoid a content that I don't want to trigger.

You went on and on about wanting to avoid content you don't like when it came to the lesbian scene. If a few kisses between the characters was enough for you to make that many posts about avoiding it, then I think it's safe to say you will probably bitch about the inability to skip any other content you don't like.

if you told me this right from the very start then that would have saved me a lot of trouble posting about something I shouldn't have.

To be honest, I never reject an LI in any game so I had completely forgotten about the choice. I took a look at the code to determine if the scene was even skippable. It turns out it was, so I posted how to avoid it in the vain hope this will ward off any future whingeing about that scene.

It's funny how you turn it around on me, as though I'm at fault for not telling you about something I didn't recall at that time. Maybe investigate it for yourself next time instead of asking the grown-ups in the thread to do it for you.

 

[NiiChan]

I think you have it backwards. Devs are not beholden to the tags on the game threads. The game thread tags are beholden to the content in the game. If a game isn't properly tagged, that's the fault of F95, not the dev. This is a piracy forum, first and foremost. Many devs choose to engage with this website as a way to market their games and drive engagement with their fanbases, which is great. But there is an attitude of entitlement among many around here that devs owe something to a bunch of people who pirate their games.

In any case, proper tagging doesn't solve the problem either. Games with proper tagging, particularly NTR, end up with endless questions about "is the content skippable?" Devs are under no obligation to make *any* content skippable. The fact that some do is a courtesy for the snowflakes in the fanbase. Ren'Py already gives players the ability to skip content, so the fact that devs write code to make that process even easier is showing massive consideration to players. I know of one dev who has literally told people demanding the ability to skip content to fuck off if they don't like it because he was tired of the constant whining.

As for the warning about "losing subscribers," this is a refrain that I hear often and the funny thing is, it usually comes from people who don't subscribe to or support shit. I'm a Patreon supporter of AV and I was pretty unhappy that Eli got a breast reduction. Did I pull my support? Of course not. One thing that made me unhappy doesn't outweigh the 99 other things I love about the game. As a dev, I can tell you it's not possible to make everyone happy. Not to mention, there are development implications that start piling up fast when you try to cater to all people, all the time. It's just not possible.

In the end, it's up to each player to decide whether or not a game meets enough of their desires to continue playing or supporting. They can feel free to voice their concerns but no dev is under any obligation to change the game to address those concerns. If someone is unhappy that 95% instead 100% of their desires are being met, that's a person most devs would be happy to lose because they typically bring endless negativity to game discussions.

Agreed and very well stated!

 

[Kame-Sennin]

You went on and on about wanting to avoid content you don't like when it came to the lesbian scene. If a few kisses between the characters was enough for you to make that many posts about avoiding it, then I think it's safe to say you will probably bitch about the inability to skip any other content you don't like.




To be honest, I never reject an LI in any game so I had completely forgotten about the choice. I took a look at the code to determine if the scene was even skippable. It turns out it was, so I posted how to avoid it in the vain hope this will ward off any future whingeing about that scene.

It's funny how you turn it around on me, as though I'm at fault for not telling you about something I didn't recall at that time. Maybe investigate it for yourself next time instead of asking the grown-ups in the thread to do it for you.

Ofcourse and I don't think I'm the only one , every player will want or find a way to skip or avoid content that turn them off especially ntr-haters, that's natural . And I don't mean to say that you're at fault sorry if it sounds like I am blaming you for not telling me sooner, not that good with english because I am an Asian , don't wanna escalate things betweens us man, I even said "Thank You" you even waste your time for me to look at the codes so I'm grateful, lets just end with that

 

[Ero - Sennin]

HNIGamer you're not man you're not the only one, and read more post backwards , there are people also who had the same sentiments the only difference is that they seem like to know how to avoid it , you should have ask them instead

 

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[Jammy Yupyup]

Man this game is the best..
1.The animation is so great quality and enjoyable
2.The storyline and plot is also great(although it's great but still want to know who is Amy fucking though I really want to know)
3.The modded ver is helpful
4.Is incest ver has no sound or the mod one?
5.I want to support as a patreon or something but I don't have money T_T shit(glad this game is free)
6.Keep up Dev I have a blast of incredible times..
7.The characters design is amazing.. But for me the mc not so much.. But no need to focus on mc so much right? Hahaha..

 

[assman1337]

0.11
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[DanThaMan]

Reuploaded due to the dev removing the previous link... v0.11 PC -

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[danvo2004]

Walkthrough Mod for This is not Heaven v0.10 (only for English part)
The Warehouse

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please update mod for v0.11, tks

 

[Lordhellsing]

When will android get an update

 

[BoltonGuy35]

Sorry for asking if this has already been asked. Has the dev decided to continue the game now?? And he is not going to rush the ending and continue the story? If so this is the happiest day of my life

 

[Darknesssilent]

Sorry for asking if this has already been asked. Has the dev decided to continue the game now?? And he is not going to rush the ending and continue the story? If so this is the happiest day of my life

yes if you wish to read the devs reason its an open post on his patreon page along with others.

 

[BoltonGuy35]

yes if you wish to read the devs reason its an open post on his patreon page along with others.

Okay great thanks I will go have a look now

 

[Malicre]

I never get into games that have this kind of art style but it has some sexy looking girls which lead me to try it out.

Couple random thoughts i had. Sex scenes tended to get worse and worse as time went on. We started off with a marathon-fuck with the MC and nina and then another pretty good scene with his cousin but it seemed like after that the sexual content got shorter and shorter to the point that it really felt like it was getting progressively worse which shouldn't have been the case since we got scenes with better girls but i just wasn't feeling any of it especially after all of the great early sex scenes.

Funny enough, i usually go for older women, milfs, moms, aunts, stuff like that but nina getting destroyed in early sex scene (he fucked her so bad it put her in a wheelchair ) was pretty damn hot and nothing after that was even remotely close to being as good which by default made her my favorite girl.

The one thing i would suggest to the dev is that he/she should put more work into the sex scenes or go back to how you had it early on in the story, maybe let the MC have super magic dick powers again.

 

[Naxos]

Nice update AV. I'd missed I had access to it already, not a fan of certain scenes but there was some really nice stuff in there too.

Looking forward to the next one.

 

[Raboobie]

You had the choice to reject speaking with Alison back in 0.5 when she tries to speak with the MC about why she is so cold towards him. Rejecting her then will turn off the kissing scene in the latest release.

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As for the "lesbian" scene itself, this is where it ends:

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What is Alison doing? Is she trying to finger Jill? Or is she trying to troll her older sister by goosing her in the stinky snackbar?

None of us know. But you're the one who is acting triggered over a scene of two women kissing. You see lesbian content while I see two sisters trolling each other with escalating behavior. I'm content to see how it plays out while you're making all sorts of demands to be able to skip anything you don't like.

What you're forgetting is AV's warning about drawing conclusions prematurely:

It's a pity that to reject the kissing stuff, you have to complete reject a character entirely.

The sudo les stuff, despite what AV or others say about kissing not being, les it is. You don't see straight guys making out and saying I'm not gay. The absurdity of Triss kissing Kiara and saying she doesn't like girls is beyond ridiculous, MC kiss another dude, nah I'm not into guy's just got caught up in the heat of the moment, would cause a shitstorm and no-one would believe it.

Also AV promised he was not going to make Kiara les or bi with the Zoey stuff... yet from this update it seems he's hell bent on doing so with her and Triss and having Triss groom her despite not being into girls herself.

Triss kissing her despite not liking or being into girls.
Triss touching her despite not liking girls - Kiara tells her to stop, Triss ignores
Triss sucking her nipple despite not liking girls
Triss touching her again despite not liking girls - Kiara again tells her stop Triss ignores, Kiara accepts it.

I'm sure someone will now come up with but Triss and Kiara are now avoiding each other and not talking to each other so they feel bad so yes it was just a heat of the moment then... sure. Till the next update when all is forgiven and the kiss and make up literally.

It really seems like either AV can't make up his mind on it, or is trying to train the girls and audience into it gradually.
Aunt and Mom - kiss and aunt fingers her. Mom gets angry and is still angry the next day, but there's a hint from the aunts comment that the mom might have liked it and that's why she's angry.
Triss apparently isn't into girls, but sure did a lot of touching and kissing/sucking on Kiara
Kiara weakly protests which Triss ignores.
Mom and Kiara have kissed too


Maybe each of those things in and of them-self are not enough to be considered lesbian, but for those who aren't a fan it's a giant be red flashing warning sign of what is to come, especially when viewed with the bigger picture that is what happens in 99% of all avn's here.

 

[Deleted member 997153]

It's a pity that to reject the kissing stuff, you have to complete reject a character entirely.

The sudo les stuff, despite what AV or others say about kissing not being, les it is. You don't see straight guys making out and saying I'm not gay. The absurdity of Triss kissing Kiara and saying she doesn't like girls is beyond ridiculous, MC kiss another dude, nah I'm not into guy's just got caught up in the heat of the moment, would cause a shitstorm and no-one would believe it.

Also AV promised he was not going to make Kiara les or bi with the Zoey stuff... yet from this update it seems he's hell bent on doing so with her and Triss and having Triss groom her despite not being into girls herself.

Triss kissing her despite not liking or being into girls.
Triss touching her despite not liking girls - Kiara tells her to stop, Triss ignores
Triss sucking her nipple despite not liking girls
Triss touching her again despite not liking girls - Kiara again tells her stop Triss ignores, Kiara accepts it.

I'm sure someone will now come up with but Triss and Kiara are now avoiding each other and not talking to each other so they feel bad so yes it was just a heat of the moment then... sure. Till the next update when all is forgiven and the kiss and make up literally.

It really seems like either AV can't make up his mind on it, or is trying to train the girls and audience into it gradually.
Aunt and Mom - kiss and aunt fingers her. Mom gets angry and is still angry the next day, but there's a hint from the aunts comment that the mom might have liked it and that's why she's angry.
Triss apparently isn't into girls, but sure did a lot of touching and kissing/sucking on Kiara
Kiara weakly protests which Triss ignores.
Mom and Kiara have kissed too


Maybe each of those things in and of them-self are not enough to be considered lesbian, but for those who aren't a fan it's a giant be red flashing warning sign of what is to come, especially when viewed with the bigger picture that is what happens in 99% of all avn's here.

Yeah, I don't agree with any of that.

Unfortunately, AV isn't a member of the Illuminati who is gaslighting his audience and grooming them to accept full-blown incestual scissoring. The explanation is far more mundane and boring; two girls kissing each other doesn't mean they are gay anymore than two men kissing means they are gay. How do I know? Because when I was a younger and more experimental meat popcicle, I kissed a guy. Why did I do it? To see if I was gay. Turns out I'm not. Not at all. It didn't do shit for me. Plus, I have yet to see a pair of man-boobs that would divert even a pinprick's worth of blood to my loins.

Besides, anyone who has gotten a woman sufficiently worked up will tell you that they are capable of all manner of perversion in the heat of the moment. For that matter, most guys with more than 10 ng/dL of testosterone in their bodies are the same way (I realize that rules out 70% of Millennials and 90% of Gen-Z, so you'll just have to take my word for it.)

The fact of the matter is girls don't suffer from the sort of gay panic that many men do. Plus, they tend to be more comfortable with showing physical affection to each other. Triss and Kiara or Jill and Alison kissing is no more an indicator of things to come than me sticking a finger in my girl's ass during sex means I'm planning to shove my whole fist up there.

Sometimes, a kiss is simply a kiss.

 

[Raboobie]

Yeah, I don't agree with any of that.

Triss and Kiara or Jill and Alison kissing is no more an indicator of things to come than me sticking a finger in my girl's ass during sex means I'm planning to shove my whole fist up there.

Sometimes, a kiss is simply a kiss.

Cool you don't need to agree...

I'm sure in 3 or 4 updates I'll be able to come back and say told you so, but keep believing it means nothing.

 

[BreastsAss]

Thanks for the game

 

[Deleted member 997153]

Cool you don't need to agree...

I'm sure in 3 or 4 updates I'll be able to come back and say told you so, but keep believing it means nothing.

Perhaps you will and I'll be happy to give you a "Like" on your post for being correct.

You can beat off to owning me in a game forum on a pirated porn game website while I'll be beating off to my MC splitting Triss in half while she tongues Kiara's cervix. I'm not one to kink shame.