VN Ren'Py Abandoned This Time [v2306] [ApocalypseToday]

[apocalypsetoday]

Man, it would have been better if you had no idea what NTR was lol. Do you want to write a story that you want? Or do you want to apply artificial boundaries and keep things "safe" to maybe draw in some more players that are too sensitive? There was nothing NTR about this and it's so childish to judge characters on some stupid porn harem logic. Redo or change whatever if you feel like it's a better approach. Don't blindly change the story because some people on the forum are complaining about character backgrounds and the plot. Criticism regarding the execution and delivery of the plot, sure, but the direction of the plot? That's your own creative output.


Are prostitutes not people? Are they disqualified from being a central character? The sympathetic and thoughtful prostitute is a concept used in many stories, be it games, TV, movies or literature.

Is settling into a platonic friendship a foreign concept? The text clearly says there was some sexual tension at first, but MC and Chelsea just settled into a friendzone because neither of them acted on it. Now they are just friends. Are you gonna deride a friend for being a whore because she is sexually liberal? If a male gets head under the table, you high five them. If a female friend gives a handjob under the table, she's a slut and whore that we should cut ties with?

It's so asinine what happens in every single thread. People arguing about who is worthy of their "love" lol.



Anyways, about your question regarding the stopwatch. There are obviously too many applications for it, but the biggest adventage of time stop is doing stuff in public and basically being rapey lol. You know, fucking people who are going about their day to day lives. Like a mother walking her daughter to school, a couple on a date in the park, public transport, your colleges, incest targets.. lol whatever. The other cool trope with it is the delayed orgasm, where you build up their arousal in time stop and then release it for some 100000x super orgasm.

The thing is, time stop in a porn setting is almost never used for good. The curious thing about the game so far is that it is being framed with a good natured MC or a heroic type of story. Time stop rapey fun and this type of set up... I wonder how it will play out. Of course, you might have some corruption of the MC in mind, or find some wholesome time stop sex if that kind of thing is even possible.

Good luck...

Its so nice to see posts like this backing up my original ideas. With this being my first game I did initially think I had stepped on a few toes that I didn't even know were there! Its nice to know that is only a small side of it.

Im happy to tweak the Annie initial scene as some of my visions further down the line were actually difficult to achieve with the current setup anyway. As for Chelsea, I'm not really sure what will come of that just yet. I at least need to tone it down a little as I think she comes across as a slut rather than an overly open friend.

 

[desmosome]

Its so nice to see posts like this backing up my original ideas. With this being my first game I did initially think I had stepped on a few toes that I didn't even know were there! Its nice to know that is only a small side of it.

Im happy to tweak the Annie initial scene as some of my visions further down the line were actually difficult to achieve with the current setup anyway. As for Chelsea, I'm not really sure what will come of that just yet. I at least need to tone it down a little as I think she comes across as a slut rather than an overly open friend.

Sure, it's early in development, and it's your story. You have the big picture on how things will develop, so if you feel like making adjustments will not hinder the goals in the story, go for it. I just wanted to say that there is a very vocal group in every game thread that will make it seem like the existence of a sex life in a woman is a grave sin against the romance gods or something. We end up with the same old stories. Same old dynamics. The females waiting around and existing for the MC's cock to solve their problems. There is nothing wrong with those types of stories either if it's written well, but why is it that any dev that tries to make characters that live their own lives bombarded by the doom and gloom posts?

 

[Jsd16]

Sure, it's early in development, and it's your story. You have the big picture on how things will develop, so if you feel like making adjustments will not hinder the goals in the story, go for it. I just wanted to say that there is a very vocal group in every game thread that will make it seem like the existence of a sex life in a woman is a grave sin against the romance gods or something. We end up with the same old stories. Same old dynamics. The females waiting around and existing for the MC's cock to solve their problems. There is nothing wrong with those types of stories either if it's written well, but why is it that any dev that tries to make characters that live their own lives bombarded by the doom and gloom posts?

And you are from the opposite group who loves NTR , sharing and swinging . We didn't order him to change his game . We just gave him suggestion / opinion as he didn't know about consequences of that scene in the future of the game . Even it is same old dynamics as u say ( which I clearly see it's not ) it will help him gain more supporters for this game . Dev didn't want to make NTR game he wants to make this game with story and romance , not where our LI gets fucked and MC watches ( which you obviously love to see hence your love for prostitution ) and are u saying dev will get more supporters If he keeps this prostitution scene . Not many Anti NTR would love that and avoid those kind of games where Female LI gets fucked by others and he won't have support from NTR fans as clearly this is not NTR game and who would support him ? In the end his game would be abandoned or he will have very low supporters . As he said he said he didn't consider that those prostitution scenes would cause problem for players to consider those females as LI . And he decided to re write as he wishes , no one forced him . Let the dev do as his wish with his game if he decides to re write or not .

 

[EZ8lt]

Its so nice to see posts like this backing up my original ideas. With this being my first game I did initially think I had stepped on a few toes that I didn't even know were there! Its nice to know that is only a small side of it.

They don't really want to back up your original ideas or really care about your vision. They just use it as a pretense to get more cuck content, something you put in there accidentally, but they can't really outright protect just that and try to take some sort of a non-existent high ground.

My advice is to do a bit more research about some topics you might want to get into, exceutions of them, etc, that will help you not creating something that you never wished to in the first place.

 

[apocalypsetoday]

They don't really want to back up your original ideas or really care about your vision. They just use it as a pretense to get more cuck content, something you put in there accidentally, but they can't really outright protect just that and try to take some sort of a non-existent high ground.

My advice is to do a bit more research about some topics you might want to get into, exceutions of them, etc, that will help you not creating something that you never wished to in the first place.

My vision for the future of the game remains unchanged. I simply dont want to upset a large portion of players over something that to me is not significant to the development of the game. I am happy to take take into perspective some opinions that I wasnt aware or prior to this release in order to welcome on board more players without having to compromise on the bigger picture of the game

 

[Jsd16]

My vision for the future of the game remains unchanged. I simply dont want to upset a large portion of players over something that to me is not significant to the development of the game. I am happy to take take into perspective some opinions that I wasnt aware or prior to this release in order to welcome on board more players without having to compromise on the bigger picture of the game

Yes as EZ8lt rightly mentioned they do not care about your story or vision . They are just upset and act like they are trying to support your original ideas because you are considering to remove prostitution in which future female love interest gets fucked by other than Main character ( MC ) ( which is kind of NTR ).
This is your game and you have MC with stopwatch it would be nice to be an alpha using that watch and trying to cuck main character who has stopwatch is simply absurd which they would ( NTR fans ) want .
And you are not writing that kind of story as you mentioned above , hence we simply gave opinion / suggestion to make it avoidable or removed so that players who still haven't played can enjoy your game and for you to gain more supporters . I personally like the prologue and I will wait for remastered version to play your game . I will love to see your game get more supporters and succeed .

 

[House Of Black]

Avoid some STD ... maybe

When was the last time someone actually got an STD in a porn game? Serious question? I wanna know.

 

[House Of Black]

Yes as EZ8lt rightly mentioned they do not care about your story or vision . They are just upset and act like they are trying to support your original ideas because you are considering to remove prostitution in which future female love interest gets fucked by other than Main character ( MC ) ( which is kind of NTR ).
This is your game and you have MC with stopwatch it would be nice to be an alpha using that watch and trying to cuck main character who has stopwatch is simply absurd which they would ( NTR fans ) want .
And you are not writing that kind of story as you mentioned above , hence we simply gave opinion / suggestion to make it avoidable or removed so that players who still haven't played can enjoy your game and for you to gain more supporters . I personally like the prologue and I will wait for remastered version to play your game . I will love to see your game more supporters and succeed

Oh shit thanks for the heads up, laters.

 

[Jsd16]

When was the last time someone actually got an STD in a porn game? Serious question? I wanna know.

I think there is a game in which MC has sex with prostitute (who probably had STD implied ) and it ultimately lead to bad ending and game over.

 

[Deleted member 2769563]

Condoms in a porn game?

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Games becomes more and more realistic

 

[Bobby Boucher]

Man, it would have been better if you had no idea what NTR was lol. Do you want to write a story that you want? Or do you want to apply artificial boundaries and keep things "safe" to maybe draw in some more players that are too sensitive? There was nothing NTR about this and it's so childish to judge characters on some stupid porn harem logic. Redo or change whatever if you feel like it's a better approach. Don't blindly change the story because some people on the forum are complaining about character backgrounds and the plot. Criticism regarding the execution and delivery of the plot, sure, but the direction of the plot? That's your own creative output.


Are prostitutes not people? Are they disqualified from being a central character? The sympathetic and thoughtful prostitute is a concept used in many stories, be it games, TV, movies or literature.

Is settling into a platonic friendship a foreign concept? The text clearly says there was some sexual tension at first, but MC and Chelsea just settled into a friendzone because neither of them acted on it. Now they are just friends. Are you gonna deride a friend for being a whore because she is sexually liberal? If a male gets head under the table, you high five them. If a female friend gives a handjob under the table, she's a slut and whore that we should cut ties with?

It's so asinine what happens in every single thread. People arguing about who is worthy of their "love" lol.



Anyways, about your question regarding the stopwatch. There are obviously too many applications for it, but the biggest adventage of time stop is doing stuff in public and basically being rapey lol. You know, fucking people who are going about their day to day lives. Like a mother walking her daughter to school, a couple on a date in the park, public transport, your colleges, incest targets.. lol whatever. The other cool trope with it is the delayed orgasm, where you build up their arousal in time stop and then release it for some 100000x super orgasm.

The thing is, time stop in a porn setting is almost never used for good. The curious thing about the game so far is that it is being framed with a good natured MC or a heroic type of story. Time stop rapey fun and this type of set up... I wonder how it will play out. Of course, you might have some corruption of the MC in mind, or find some wholesome time stop sex if that kind of thing is even possible.

Good luck...

I’m cringing right now because as much as I despise that 3 letter tag, the thought of a Dev possibly rewriting a script is horrible. The Dev could low key like NTR but won’t admit it. He should however make it known that the current theme is his vision, which is based around NTR.

 

[judgenot93]

I’m cringing right now because as much as I despise that 3 letter tag, the thought of a Dev possibly rewriting a script is horrible. The Dev could low key like NTR but won’t admit it. He should however make it known that the current theme is his vision, which is based around NTR.

"NTR describes actions in the course of which one of the partners from a love relationship cheats and this has to be endured by the lover, less often the loved one, powerless as a spectator." (wiki)

there's none of that in the game, it's definitely not based around it.

 

[Bobby Boucher]

"NTR describes actions in the course of which one of the partners from a love relationship cheats and this has to be endured by the lover, less often the loved one, powerless as a spectator." (wiki)

there's none of that in the game, it's definitely not based around it.

Yea sure

 

[Havik79]

Wow how fucking ugly must the women be with 11 preview images and not one single face shot, talk about how not to get anyone interested.

 

[szabon]

mac?

 

[Cernunnos.]

Condoms in a porn game?

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Yeah...when I saw that in the the latest feed I just kept scrolling. Much like the Catholic Church I consider birth control in these games a sin.

Models look nice otherwise though the faces are a bit off. Story isn't one I've seen done often in games but rather common, in regards to the watch, on Chyoa and such.

 

[House Of Black]

I think there is a game in which MC has sex with prostitute (who probably had STD implied ) and it ultimately lead to bad ending and game over.

I’m curious what’s the name? Or PM me.

 

[Look-see]

My vision for the future of the game remains unchanged. I simply dont want to upset a large portion of players over something that to me is not significant to the development of the game. I am happy to take take into perspective some opinions that I wasnt aware or prior to this release in order to welcome on board more players without having to compromise on the bigger picture of the game

someone mentioned that timestop is rarely used for good. in this case it looks like it can be used to save ppl also.

although ive already mentioned what i didnt really care for about the game atm. the more Serious/Mystery part of the game was actuallly interesting. curious to see what's what.

 

[apocalypsetoday]

mac?

Mac version will be released with the next version in the coming days.

 

[apocalypsetoday]

someone mentioned that timestop is rarely used for good. in this case it looks like it can be used to save ppl also.

although ive already mentioned what i didnt really care for about the game atm. the more Serious/Mystery part of the game was actuallly interesting. curious to see what's what.

There will certainly be some mischief to be made with the watch too. The idea is that they are all optional and the severity increasing throughout the game depending on the MCs depravity score.