VN Ren'Py Abandoned This Time [v2306] [ApocalypseToday]

[darth_hiruma]

Interesting plot and decent render. And I like a mystery story so I will follow this one.

 

[Yoru]

Nice renders, very hot scenes. That's a good start.
Good luck dear dev

 

[JC07]

Well, let's go.

My take on this.

I no like NTR/sharing, but like a complete non-radical. I played and play some other games that have Voyer "NTR" opening scenes.

I like that? do not. Completely not. But when it's indispensable for the plot of the story, which otherwise the story wouldn't be what it is without this initial thing, it's still "acceptable" to me. But if this is just for "porn content" that has no influence on the story, it's simply not necessary.

I didn't get to play the game (thankfully, my anti-NTR eyes were spared...hahaha), but I saw the quality of the images, but I always read the comments first, to prevent that from happening. So my thanks to the wounded soldiers for this journey...hahaha

All jokes aside, my advice for the DEV is, choose an audience, it's been more than proven here, that you won't please everyone. So whether it's a vanilla game or NTR/sharing, you're going to have an audience and may even have a mixed audience, with NTR elements totally optional/avoidable. But choose your audience.

Tip, if you are here for the money and want the biggest audience possible, look at the games with the highest incomes and the best ratings, see their elements (TAGs), and follow this logic, you just want to tell your story and don't care too much about the return financial? so do as you initially imagined, you will get some feedback eventually.

Another thing, take a look at this link about the TAG rules, so you don't make mistakes or deceive anyone. And be as honest with your audience as possible (when you've already chosen one).
https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2021-05-02.10394/
And take a good look at the definition of NTR for that particular site.
"NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]"

So like anything else you're going to create or a company you're opening, do a market research and see if you have an audience or if it's worth the effort of your work.

Now my personal opinion. And that's just to make it clear what I like, not that I want or require you to do it that way, it's your job and your time, as you see fit. But as an anti-ntr/sharing, it would be good if you take these things out of your game, or make it avoidable (which never happens in your game, if the player wants it), make a LI or future LI be a bitch and go out having sex. and right around it's a waste (at least for vanilla players like me), I know it's hypocrisy on our part, but we want a harem, and we don't want our girls having sex with anyone else while we're with her. So doing a hooker LI while with MC is a waste of LI, because most will avoid her (if you have the option of course), make the friend a slut, it's even worse, the hooker is still doing it for money to survive , the other is doing it just because she's a slut, which for me is worse.

So if you're going to create your game for a vanilla audience (romace/harem), make the friend a non-whore, and in the case of the prostitute, make her, as you said last, an ex-prostitute, where the MC can help her out of this life, will it still be avoided by some? yes, but it is more acceptable to others.

And about the watch, as someone who likes romance. Use it to help girls, save lives, get money, steal museum jewelry and get very rich to support a harem. Because if I had a can of this in my hand, I wouldn't waste time on useless things like spying on a girl taking a shower or fucking a doll without her even being able to react. For me it's much nicer to do interesting things and win these girls over and fuck them for their own sake.

But once I haven't played it yet, but like, getting money for the "whore" so she doesn't have to work with it anymore, she could be eternally grateful to the MC and become his exclusive "whore".

But again, this is just my opinions, I'm not telling you to follow these paths.


Good luck and stay safe. And apocalypsetoday sorry for the giant text.

 

[d_pedestrian]

The first MC you meet in the first scene in depraved awakenings is a prostitute too. She goes on to be one of the most popular MCs in the game too!

is she a prostitute? Yes
do you see or hear her fucking others? No
does she tell you about her clients and how she fucked them? No
Does she act slutty? No

Even though she was my least favourite LI because of her being a prostitute in Depraved awakening she didn't disgust me because she didn't act slutty.

 

[Sngo]

So when can we see the remastered version of it ? If it happens to be remastered of course.

Didn't try the game for now since I read that there is NTR crap in the game so as a anti-NTR fan I avoided it like the plague and will keep so until the crap NTR goes out if dev decides that.

Seeing our LI's getting fucked by other's? Ty but big no.

Having to hear about their shenanigans or how slut they are? Ty but big no.

Prostitute as LI? Ty but big no.

With that 2 LI in the trash bin for now and didn't touched the game.

Chose your audience.
In one side you have anti-NTR fans in the complete opposite side you have the cucks NTR lovers.
If you for some weird reason want to have NTR in your game, at minimum make it avoidable but still be prepared to lose a big chunk of audience with the non-NTR fans.

After saying all that, do what you want and do what you like. You can't please or try to please both extreme sides without getting burned.

 

[dude4real]

I like Anti-Gravity Scrotum in Picture 6 There also seem interesting Angles and Perspective

 

[apocalypsetoday]

Well, let's go.

My take on this.

I like anti-NTR/sharing, but like a complete non-radical. I played and play some other games that have Voyer "NTR" opening scenes.

I like that? do not. Completely not. But when it's indispensable for the plot of the story, which otherwise the story wouldn't be what it is without this initial thing, it's still "acceptable" to me. But if this is just for "porn content" that has no influence on the story, it's simply not necessary.

I didn't get to play the game (thankfully, my anti-NTR eyes were spared...hahaha), but I saw the quality of the images, but I always read the comments first, to prevent that from happening. So my thanks to the wounded soldiers for this journey...hahaha

All jokes aside, my advice for the DEV is, choose an audience, it's been more than proven here, that you won't please everyone. So whether it's a vanilla game or NTR/sharing, you're going to have an audience and may even have a mixed audience, with NTR elements totally optional/avoidable. But choose your audience.

Tip, if you are here for the money and want the biggest audience possible, look at the games with the highest incomes and the best ratings, see their elements (TAGs), and follow this logic, you just want to tell your story and don't care too much about the return financial? so do as you initially imagined, you will get some feedback eventually.

Another thing, take a look at this link about the TAG rules, so you don't make mistakes or deceive anyone. And be as honest with your audience as possible (when you've already chosen one).
https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2021-05-02.10394/
And take a good look at the definition of NTR for that particular site.
"NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]"

So like anything else you're going to create or a company you're opening, do a market research and see if you have an audience or if it's worth the effort of your work.

Now my personal opinion. And that's just to make it clear what I like, not that I want or require you to do it that way, it's your job and your time, as you see fit. But as an anti-ntr/sharing, it would be good if you take these things out of your game, or make it avoidable (which never happens in your game, if the player wants it), make a LI or future LI be a bitch and go out having sex. and right around it's a waste (at least for vanilla players like me), I know it's hypocrisy on our part, but we want a harem, and we don't want our girls having sex with anyone else while we're with her. So doing a hooker LI while with MC is a waste of LI, because most will avoid her (if you have the option of course), make the friend a slut, it's even worse, the hooker is still doing it for money to survive , the other is doing it just because she's a slut, which for me is worse.

So if you're going to create your game for a vanilla audience (romace/harem), make the friend a non-whore, and in the case of the prostitute, make her, as you said last, an ex-prostitute, where the MC can help her out of this life, will it still be avoided by some? yes, but it is more acceptable to others.

And about the watch, as someone who likes romance. Use it to help girls, save lives, get money, steal museum jewelry and get very rich to support a harem. Because if I had a can of this in my hand, I wouldn't waste time on useless things like spying on a girl taking a shower or fucking a doll without her even being able to react. For me it's much nicer to do interesting things and win these girls over and fuck them for their own sake.

But once I haven't played it yet, but like, getting money for the "whore" so she doesn't have to work with it anymore, she could be eternally grateful to the MC and become his exclusive "whore".

But again, this is just my opinions, I'm not telling you to follow these paths.


Good luck and stay safe. And apocalypsetoday sorry for the giant text.

Thanks for the feedback. My intention isnt to make a tonne of money (though that would be nice) its mostly to tell a story. With that in mind, I intend to tell that story as best as I can however I dont want to exclude anybody from playing just because I unintentionally added something which people are turned off by. So I am stripping those parts out of it without compromising on the story. Its actually turned out better anyway I reckon (you guys should hopefully be able to tell me soon enough).

So when can we see the remastered version of it ? If it happens to be remastered of course.

Didn't try the game for now since I read that there is NTR crap in the game so as a anti-NTR fan I avoided it like the plague and will keep so until the crap NTR goes out if dev decides that.

Seeing our LI's getting fucked by other's? Ty but big no.

Having to hear about their shenanigans or how slut they are? Ty but big no.

Prostitute as LI? Ty but big no.

With that 2 LI in the trash bin for now and didn't touched the game.

Chose your audience.
In one side you have anti-NTR fans in the complete opposite side you have the cucks NTR lovers.
If you for some weird reason want to have NTR in your game, at minimum make it avoidable but still be prepared to lose a big chunk of audience with the non-NTR fans.

After saying all that, do what you want and do what you like. You can't please or try to please both extreme sides without getting burned.

Version 0.12 (the remastered 0.1) will be out in the next couple of days. Script is written, game programmed just waiting on the last few renders.

As for the anti-gravity balls, these are no longer present in 0.12

 

[apocalypsetoday]

Screenshots now updated to include the new Non-NTR Chelsea shot and a couple of face shots as requested , including part of the new avoid-prostitution scene.

 

[Jsd16]

Screenshots now updated to include the new Non-NTR Chelsea shot and a couple of face shots as requested , including part of the new skip-prostitution scene.

Skippable ( It still happens we won't see it ) , I was hoping for avoidable ( we can prevent it ) or removal , I think I ( personally ) can't romance a person who still acts as prostitute and has sex with others even if it we don't see it . Will check other comments if the content is avoidable or skippable before I play it .

 

[apocalypsetoday]

Skippable ( It still happens we won't see it ) , I was hoping for avoidable ( we can prevent it ) or removal , I think I ( personally ) can't romance a person who still acts as prostitute and has sex with others even if it we don't see it . Will check other comments if the content is avoidable or skippable before I play it .

Reworded my post as it is avoidable rather than skipable

 

[apocalypsetoday]

v0.12 now released and includes Mac Version.
Links updated!

Enjoy folks and as always let me know what you think!

 

[JC07]

Thanks for the feedback. My intention isnt to make a tonne of money (though that would be nice) its mostly to tell a story. With that in mind, I intend to tell that story as best as I can however I dont want to exclude anybody from playing just because I unintentionally added something which people are turned off by. So I am stripping those parts out of it without compromising on the story. Its actually turned out better anyway I reckon (you guys should hopefully be able to tell me soon enough).

Actually I thank you for taking the time to read my comment and for building a game and accepting opinions.


And as for the money, man, you have to think about financial return or at least recognition. I'm not telling you to charge and prevent others who can't support you financially from playing your game. My point is that it's always nice to be recognized for a work of your own. Whether financially or simply as a reference in the community.

And regarding the history, yes, of course you have to tell your history, what I meant is more the elements addressed in that historian. Because from what I saw, the friend (Chelsea?) didn't have to be a "tramp" who jumps on every guy who crosses her path, right? then from there you can go a route towards her as a total slut, or a normal girl with a normal life (a girl who dates, has had sex, has a baggage). So it doesn't change the main historian which is the focus of the game, it's something you can choose how to approach. In the case here you prefer to follow a path that she is not so "slutty" (she won't be having sex with everyone, less with MC. Which is something that I really can't understand why put a "friend" fucking everyone but the MC, so as not to ruin the "friendship", being that later they will be able to fuck. So making her a slut who would fuck everyone before, to me, just makes a mess of that LI).

That's more my point, there are stories that you can't change much for which audience you are writing for, because the story is geared to a more specific fetish. However, there are stories that you can decide which audience you write for, because the main plot of the story is not tied to such a "restricted" fetish. as NTR/sharing, so it is up to the DEV to decide if this will be present in the game or not. So when I tell you to pick an audience and know if you want to "make money" As I understand it, your game is not tied to a festish, you can put voyer, or not, you can put NTR or not, you can let the girl continue as a prostitute or make her an ex-prostitute and as they said above, being a prostitute, is not a bad thing, when her personality is not that of a tramp, as in the case of Depraved awakening, she is a prostitute, we know, but she never talks about how many partners she had that day, the things she did, We only know she is a prostitute, because we make a program with her, and if I'm not wrong she once told the MC that she has to earn a living somehow, she may not be the players favorite LI, but it's not as big a problem, as a prostitute that behaves like a slut, that keeps telling the MC the shit she did and does whenever she is on screen and the DEV shows her doing her job, for the simple need to show obsene content. And thus driving away possible players and supporters.

So as your game is not restricted to a particular fetish, you as a DEV, are more free to choose the public that you like or that you think can bring you more return, both financially and recognition in the community.

 

[Jsd16]

I just finished playing this game , I didn't know how it was before , but in this update there is no scenes that I hate . I loved every character and Kudos dev I can see the changes u made , there is no mentions that both female characters had sex with others . And Annie said this is her first time as hooker where I listened to her problems instead of having sex with her ( I saw the sex scene in another playthrough ) and making Chelsea as a nymph ( high sexual drive - masturbating often ) instead of slut was nice . And the ending with Sarah was a nice cliffhanger . Great start to the game Apocalypsetoday , I totally enjoyed playing it , I'll post my review later and can't wait for the next update .

 

[apocalypsetoday]

I just finished playing this game , I didn't know how it was before but in this update there is no scenes that I hate . I loved every character and Kudos dev I can see the changes made there is no mentions that both female characters had sex with others like as you Annie said this is her first time as hooker where I listened to her problems ( I saw the sex scene in another playthrough ) and making Chelsea as a nymph ( high sexual drive - masturbating often ) instead of slut where she has sex with others was nice . And the ending with Sarah was a nice cliffhanger . Great start to the game Apocalypsetoday , I totally enjoyed playing it I'll post my review later and can't wait for the next update .

Glad you enjoyed it! I look forward to your review.

 

[chicken head]

Reworded my post as it is avoidable rather than skipable

Thanks for listening and reworked it well

 

[Lucian Light]

So this was reworked right? mmm im gonna wait a few versions more to try it out, I honestly don't trust a dev that didn't even knew what he was doing (adding ntr) as he said multiple times.

For those who gonna try it I wish you good luck comrades.

 

[apocalypsetoday]

So this was reworked right? mmm im gonna wait a few versions more to try it out, I honestly don't trust a dev that didn't even knew what he was doing (adding ntr) as he said multiple times.

For those who gonna try it I wish you good luck comrades.

Not a problem I am the first to admit I am new to the scene and I am learning. 3d modeling, animation and programming are certainly not new to me but the adult scene is and I am learning new things each day.

I hope you come back some time and give it a try!

 

[eddie987]

I've played both versions and I definitely liked the new one more. I won't say it's better, because that's subjective, but I feel it fits better to the direction the dev wants this to go. At least that's what my understanding after reading some of his comments.

To be honest I don't think I was going to play any further after the original release, because although the story seems interesting, I didn't really care for 2 out of 3 possible love interests (I'm talking about the 3 girls that have stats so far), so I wasn't sure if it was worth playing through more random voyeur scenes and/or stories about Chelsea's customer service adventures, hoping Sophia won't turn out to be a slut too.

The rewrite solved those issues for me, so I guess I'll keep an eye on this to see where the story goes.

 

[fuzzyskywalker]

Seeing a lot of talk about NTR in the comments, but how is the mind control content? Usually when I see mind control and female domination tags in the same game, that's not for me, but curious if anyone who has played it can speak on it.

 

[Jsd16]

Seeing a lot of talk about NTR in the comments, but how is the mind control content? Usually when I see mind control and female domination tags in the same game, that's not for me, but curious if anyone who has played it can speak on it.

And there is no NTR content whatsoever in the v0.12 and dev says he has no ideas to implement them in the future . As for Mind control i didn't see anything of that sort ( he stops time for 60 sec using stopwatch and he played with one LI nipple to check reality in that time Idk if it is called mindcontrol ) in this update maybe using stopwatch we can do that in future . As for femdom there is nothing in this update I don't know if dev will implement it later , I highly doubt that or it will be mild or optional. ( you can play with sorority girls where they ask you to perform a ceremony to a girl where you have to insert a anal sex toy for her to join the sorority idk if it is femdom but it is optional )