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Why show it then? Why spend the time rendering a scene the dev had to know would be devisive especially it being unavoidable? It's obviously there to intentionally get under the skin of a huge chunk of people who like Gaz but don't like to see her grinding on other dudes, we know she works in a strip club but why show it?
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because did they already show her attending to a client when she was a prostitute, if that didn't offend anyone, why a lapdance would?
- Dec 4, 2018
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I can see why it would bother some people. Some people see another male NPC being present in the game at all as "NTR". Some other people see anything outside of direct penetration as "not NTR" or sharing and fair game. There's a wide spectrum of feelings and opinions there. It didn't bother me personally, because it's clearly not a case of her wanting to fuck Bacon or having feelings for him or anything. So to me it doesn't conflict with my no sharing run. That and, well, it's Bacon 
. I don't think he was designed to be a viable "threat" lol.
Slightly off-topic, but during the scene with his mom on the beach, I opted not to share this run, but I kind of wish it had an option where he could've stayed around and watched, just for a netori or making Bacon a cuck aspect (I know, I'm terrible).
There was the scene with Gaz when she was a hooker, true. But at this point in the game her and the MC are enough of a "thing" to where I can see why some players wouldn't want to see her even rubbing up on another dude.
People who consider lesbian interactions to be in the same boat as NTR wouldn't like this game, I think. Luckily for me I am not of that camp, and love some hot lesbian action, especially within harem or harem-esque situations such as these. So I'm enjoying those parts of the game greatly so far.
. I don't think he was designed to be a viable "threat" lol.Slightly off-topic, but during the scene with his mom on the beach, I opted not to share this run, but I kind of wish it had an option where he could've stayed around and watched, just for a netori or making Bacon a cuck aspect (I know, I'm terrible).
There was the scene with Gaz when she was a hooker, true. But at this point in the game her and the MC are enough of a "thing" to where I can see why some players wouldn't want to see her even rubbing up on another dude.
People who consider lesbian interactions to be in the same boat as NTR wouldn't like this game, I think. Luckily for me I am not of that camp, and love some hot lesbian action, especially within harem or harem-esque situations such as these. So I'm enjoying those parts of the game greatly so far.
Agree with almost all of this. Early in the game it didn't really bother me because Gaz and MC weren't a "thing" like you said and i'm probably overeacting but it felt like a slap in the face waiting on Gaz content and it's a scene with godamn Bacon getting dry humped, like wtf... and i'm not even trying to say it was the 3 letter word and I fucking love Bi women.I can see why it would bother some people. Some people see another male NPC being present in the game at all as "NTR". Some other people see anything outside of direct penetration as "not NTR" or sharing and fair game. There's a wide spectrum of feelings and opinions there. It didn't bother me personally, because it's clearly not a case of her wanting to fuck Bacon or having feelings for him or anything. So to me it doesn't conflict with my no sharing run. That and, well, it's Bacon
Slightly off-topic, but during the scene with his mom on the beach, I opted not to share this run, but I kind of wish it had an option where he could've stayed around and watched, just for a netori or making Bacon a cuck aspect (I know, I'm terrible).
There was the scene with Gaz when she was a hooker, true. But at this point in the game her and the MC are enough of a "thing" to where I can see why some players wouldn't want to see her even rubbing up on another dude.
People who consider lesbian interactions to be in the same boat as NTR wouldn't like this game, I think. Luckily for me I am not of that camp, and love some hot lesbian action, especially within harem or harem-esque situations such as these. So I'm enjoying those parts of the game greatly so far.
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I just played it from the start for the first time. So I wasn't really waiting on anything yet. But I can see why that might be disappointing if you're eager and waiting for Gaz content and then you get that instead lol.
Anything with Bacon is almost just comedic for me so far
. As I mentioned, he's just not a character that I take at all seriously as a "threat" or anything.Oh I didn't get the impression that you were. I was just using it as an example of how wildly different some people can interpret and feel about certain things.
Fuck yeah!
- Sep 25, 2018
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You guys clearly need to learn to read between the lines and connect stuff from what had been said early in Chapter 1 to understand why the lapdance isn't avoidable.
Not a netori game. Bacon is MC's best friend why would he like to cuck him? Do you want to cuck your best friend in real life too?
Still no answer on why it needed to be "shown" and unavoidable. It would have been far easier to simply put in a text saying it happened. We have had no Gaz action for awhile and this is wgat you chose to do to satisfy the Gaz lovers. A huge swing and a miss sir.You guys clearly need to learn to read between the lines and connect stuff from what had been said early in Chapter 1 to understand why the lapdance isn't avoidable.
Not a netori game. Bacon is MC's best friend why would he like to cuck him? Do you want to cuck your best friend in real life too?
Btw I am actually a huge fan of the game and love 99% of it I'm just bitter atm and forced sharing with other dudes when it's been stated it will be avoidable is a sure fire way to piss a shitload of people off. Just FYI
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If I may chime in... I feel scenes like these should always be optional, offer a "do not show" button like some other VNs do when there is content you may not entirely agree with, but which is otherwise for one reason or another important to the plot and/or character. Choice is never a bad thing and if I don't want to see certain things ever, then offering an option either not to mention, show or disable the content is a good idea, especially when the dev knows or at least feels a scene may not be to everyone's liking.
Then again this VN is not all that great when it comes to choice anyway. I would love to dump the mother who annoys me and reminds me too much of an even trashier version of Peggy Bundy and focus entirely on other characters like the sis, anyone else really, exclusively. But you can't (at least as of now). Same with the smoking in the previous part which was unavoidable to the point of absurdity (which may have been the point, but still).
All that being said the lapdance is no issue for me, but I 100% understand the desire not to see any content like that. Choice is always the best way to go.
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Not that it matters, but what I had in mind was the kind where he ends up enjoying it. Not the kind where he's devastated over it.
And I also have this thing where I can distinguish between fantasy and reality. Also between fictional pixels and real people for that matter. There's a lot of stuff I "do" and like in porn games that I wouldn't irl.
Also it doesn’t have to be “a netori game” just to have some netori in it. The dean is married. So is Juliana. Also most “incest games” also feature some sex with non-family members. And most games in general have at least several different kinks and fetishes. Sometimes they’re optional, sometimes not.
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The "lapdance" subject have being discussed before.. The dev said that it was essential to the story and cannot be in any way avoidable.. Now since the whole story is not concluded yet ( we don't even have the strip club re-visit by MC and Bacon ) don't you think that is a little premature to say that we haven't get the answer yet as to why the scene wasn't avoidable ? Believe me you are not the only one in here ( or Patreon ) that like GAZ and want more content for her.. I'm one of those and believe me i have break Motkeyz balls for 2 and a half years now ( no seriously i have the credentials ) for GAZ content.. I do get that sharing isn't everyones cup of tea but don't you think that devs opinion matters most since is the one that knows how the story will unfold ? Motkeyz changed the smoking thing into avoidable just because it wasn't to everyone's liking , do you really think that it was so much trouble for him to make avoidable the "lapdance" if it wasn't essential to the story ? Also can you imagine how much trouble it would have being if everyone want some aspects of the game to be avoidable ? For example , what if someone doesn't like the peeping scene on Nika by John ? Should the dev change that too ?
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You read flabby cheeks filled with happy meals and the first thing you think of is a clothed man inhaling McDonalds from his ass
Do you come from the land of landwhales and burgers
- Sep 25, 2018
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The answer is simple: Because we wanted to show it and to make an obvious connection to what Gaz said in Chapter 1.
You should ask yourself, why this scene bothers you so much and why you can't overlook it and have to rant about it online. If you can't stand it then will free to move on and play something else.
- Dec 23, 2018
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If you have paid attention to the story, you'd know that Gaz were a close friend of MC AND BACON. But with time she walked away from them. And chapter 1 she take part in the attempt to blackmail/rape Heather, which obviously make Bacon practically hate her. So the dance was just a way for her make up to Bacon, to show that she regret for what happened and rebuild their friendship. Nothing more, nothing less. You can argue that there is other ways to make them be friends again, but that was the decision of the devs. It fits with the characters and with the story.
This is a visual story. Do you know one of the golden rules of visual stories? "Show, don't tell"
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I have said why it bothers me a couple of times and those being forced sharing when it was promised to be avoidable, and little to no content with Gaz and what we get is her dry humping not the MC.
I will keep playing. I also said I like 99% of the rest of the game. I'll wait and see how super critical it was to the story to show a forced sharing scene because it's obviously the lynch pin that ties the "ENTIRE" story together. It must be to lie to patrons and go back on your promises. Right? Right?
Fine. They can keep their promises and make it avoidable. But they "chose" to lie and make promised avoidable content unavoidable.
- Dec 23, 2018
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They didn't lie. Is you who doesn't know what sharing really means
Gaz is with the MC. So if she is dry humping not the MC you wouldn't classify that as "sharing" by the MC? You don't think she would listen to the MC if he said no? So without a choice it's forced sharing.
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Correct, but there is more - a hint which is tied to a another character.
No.
No. Gaz is a strong and independent woman who doesn't need the approval of a male. It was her decision to give Bacon a lapdance.
Oh I get you are one of those people who just changes the definition of words to suit your argument.
Why is it so hard to admit you lied when you said sharing/swinging would avoidable? It is sharing/swinging and everything about Gaz thats been shown so far post Scut is she would do anything for the MC. But keep making excuses for deceitful descriptions of the game.