a.i.w.a.

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i download the game from this forum. i also try to play the game with just 4gb ram but still the same. i never had any issue with other game i downloaded from this forum but only this game.....now i not sure what the real problem is. i try to take a snapshot next time
my data: dual-Core processor, 4Gb RAM, Win 8.1 x64 - plays both the x86 version and the x64 version.
 

D-Two

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You mentioned 32-bit Windows 7, but having 8GB RAM... Your machine cannot utilise more than around 3.47GB of RAM because you're using a 32-bit OS. Ten minutes later, however much RAM (out of around 3.47GB) isn't being used by your system has been gobbled up by the game and it crashes.
If that is the case - which means the engine is really crappy - why even bother building a 32 bit version of the game? And besides, what in a game like this could justify a minimum of several gigs of RAM in order for it not to crash? As far as I can see, it's mostly showing some static images with a text overlay, and then an occasional video clip.
 

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If that is the case - which means the engine is really crappy - why even bother building a 32 bit version of the game? And besides, what in a game like this could justify a minimum of several gigs of RAM in order for it not to crash? As far as I can see, it's mostly showing some static images with a text overlay, and then an occasional video clip.
It isn't engine related, because no one else reported crashes on their 32bit systems. More likely that it is an issue on players end.
 
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Snugglepuff

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If that is the case - which means the engine is really crappy -
It's derived from Unity, and IIRC it's specifically tailored for creating Visual Novels.

And besides, what in a game like this could justify a minimum of several gigs of RAM in order for it not to crash? As far as I can see, it's mostly showing some static images with a text overlay, and then an occasional video clip.
It's not about needing several gigs for it not to crash. It's about having an OS capable of fully utilising the available RAM. Huge difference.
This game can be run perfectly fine on a 64-bit OS with only 4GB RAM.
 
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It isn't engine related, because no one else reported crashes on their 32bit systems. More likely that it is an issue on players end.
My point exactly. Advising someone to re-install their OS based on something like this is just bad. Worst case someone wipes their machine only to realize that their dual core CPU is a 32 bit chip.
 

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It's derived from Unity, and IIRC it's specifically tailored for creating Visual Novels.



It's not about needing several gigs for it not to crash. It's about having an OS capable of fully utilising the available RAM. Huge difference.
This game can be run perfectly fine on a 64-bit OS with only 4GB RAM.
Window 7 32 bit is perfectly capable of utilizing available RAM, given it's limitations. Software does not crash like that unless they are poorly written. Sure, you could get a performance hit due to excessive use of the page file, but it shouldn't crash.
 

Snugglepuff

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My point exactly. Advising someone to re-install their OS based on something like this is just bad. Worst case someone wipes their machine only to realize that their dual core CPU is a 32 bit chip.
His machine's using an i3 processor. That's not a 32-bit chip, not even the first generation of them.
He's also running 8GB RAM, with 32-bit Windows 7... Maybe next time try reading all the relevant information.
 

D-Two

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His machine's using an i3 processor. That's not a 32-bit chip, not even the first generation of them.
He's also running 8GB RAM, with 32-bit Windows 7... Maybe next time try reading all the relevant information.
First of all, how much RAM he has in the machine doesn't matter, the OS won't address more than what the 32 bit address space allows. Secondly, ever considered someone else might read our advice?
 

Snugglepuff

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First of all, how much RAM he has in the machine doesn't matter, the OS won't address more than what the 32 bit address space allows.
He has 8GB RAM with a 32-bit OS = Pointless as it's only capable of utilising, at best around 3.5GB.
You erroneously speculated on the possibility that his machine's CPU is 32-bit, not bothering to actually see what it was he was using.

Secondly, ever considered someone else might read our advice?
Yes, (though the majority of users never seem to actually use the Search function let alone bother to read even a couple of the most recent pages of a thread) and I'm sure that they'll notice you didn't bother to check provided information before saying something silly, even to the point of implying that the problem is the engine, the second time after being told that this can't be related to the engine because there's been no other instance reported.

They'd also notice that you're not offering any actual help or alternatives... Maybe think on that next time you want to try and shame someone else for actually providing viable options.
 

Shadu

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need help where are the saves and how i find them im tryna not start over since the game does auto saves so im using saves from thread
 

D-Two

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He has 8GB RAM with a 32-bit OS = Pointless as it's only capable of utilising, at best around 3.5GB.
You erroneously speculated on the possibility that his machine's CPU is 32-bit, not bothering to actually see what it was he was using.
No, I never said that he had a 32 bit CPU. And pointless or not, that is not your concern. What you should focus on is not giving incorrect advice. The fact that the program crashes has nothing to do with a 32 bit OS, low memory or whatnot. The problem lies elsewhere and if you want to help, your focus should be on figuring out what that might be, not telling people that reinstalling Windows is the way to go.
... even to the point of implying that the problem is the engine, the second time after being told that this can't be related to the engine because there's been no other instance reported.
Yes, but no. What I said was that if your statement was true, then the engine would be crap. And since you're wrong, and that had been my opinion since the very beginning, I hardly considered problems with the engine.
 

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If someone is still using a 32 bit cpu he should throw the machine in a dumpster. All cpus made after 2004 by Intel and AMD are 64 bit. That said, having 8 GB ram on 32 bit Windows is a waste.
Unity is absolutely horrible for wannabe programmers. If all you're doing is showing images and videos then your best option is Renpy. If you don't know what you're doing Unity will drain all your memory, put your CPU on 100% and then crash. I've seen some amazing games made on Unity and a ton of bad ones, worst cases are even unplayable on a weaker laptop.
 

cold_arctus

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need help where are the saves and how i find them im tryna not start over since the game does auto saves so im using saves from thread
First of all save location is posted on OP, second the game has no auto-save function.
 
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