VN Ren'Py To Be a King [Ch.11] [ITRoy]

[LowLevelLesser]

The viking princess Estrid is too hot-headed for me. Her anger clouds her judgement dramatically and causes her to act out very destructively (both personally and politically).

 

[bacienvu88]

Agree. Kaylan is the most level-headed, fair, submissive, and close to unconditionally-loving the MC. Kaylan is very accepting of the MC's harem and is family-oriented. It's either Kaylan or Valentina who will be my queen, regardless of the consequences.

Aelinia is far too ambitious and desperate to prove she's a StRonG InDepEnDeNt woman. If Aelinia promises to show more restraint and concern for the MC's well-being then maybe.

Lydia seems too concerned to one-up Aelinia (similar to Cassia's treatment towards Valentina, unless you set her straight later in the game), and wants to be compensated for any favor that she offers the MC with more and more political power. Her family's widespread political ties within the Eastern provinces is very bothersome.

Queen Helena already had her moment in the spotlight, and is very antagonistic towards Valentina, despite her daughter showing tremendous growth from a potential yandere candidate to a legitimate queen candidate.

If Valentina is the most dynamic character of the game, then Cassia is the most static character in the game. For the majority of the game, Cassia's mindset is basically: How can I screw over Valentina, my looks, how to screw over Valentina, my pet collection, how to screw over Valentina, daddy's approval, how to screw over Valentina (rinse, wash, repeat). Electing her queen will undoubtedly lead to the French Revolution: Caudium edition. Towards the end of the current update, I called Cassia out on her bullshit, and hopefully she will take the Valentina's route to redemption, but I doubt her conviction.

I would keep going with the other LIs, but I didn't want to make this too long and boring for people reading this.

I think it would be good to setup each of the wives with specific responsibilities:

Valentina - Queen
Kaylan - Head of Harem
Aelinia - Treasury
Lydia - Spy Master
Dinah / Diana - Trade
Estrid - Royal Protection
Cassia - Master of the Royal Pets

and so on ...

 

[misfolk]

Kaylan - Head of Harem

Mistress of Threesomes and Smoother of Conflicts.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Kaylan is the most level-headed, fair, submissive, and close to unconditionally-loving the MC

I don't know did you ever played the route when you accept marriage with Kaylan then built harem but she is not submissive at all.

 

[GoldenEyeDrake]

I don't know did you ever played the route when you accept marriage with Kaylan then built harem but she is not submissive at all.

Um, I did play through the Kaylan route+ harem, and, yes, I would consider Kaylan submissive. Just because Kaylan initially voices her frustration with the MC's decision to have a harem, doesn't change the fact she's willing to follow the MC's lead. She doesn't care about being first among the harem, just spending time with the MC, nor being the dominant voice between the two of them, unlike Aelinia. Kaylan has strong faith in the MC's decision-making even, unlike Dinah. Kaylan embraces the MC's harem and is willing to befriend the other members (Estrid, Cassia, etc). Kaylan is/was willing to sacrifice her comfy life in the capital to travel East with the MC's campaign against Queen Avila to be a source of comfort. Kaylan truly appreciates the MC what he does within the kingdom. If you want to say Kaylan isn't the perfect image of a submissive woman in a relationship, then that's fair, but to say she isn't submissive at all is not true whatsoever.

 

[hysepReC]

I liked Kaylan up until the threesome with Aelina. I rejected Aelina in my first playthrough and she still makes out with her without asking the MC if it's ok to do that, then you're forced to watch her eat Aelina's pussy while the MC sits in the corner like a cuck. Kaylan will never be wife material to me for that reason alone.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

I liked Kaylan up until the threesome with Aelina. I rejected Aelina in my first playthrough and she still makes out with her without asking the MC if it's ok to do that, then you're forced to watch her eat Aelina's pussy while the MC sits in the corner like a cuck. Kaylan will never be wife material to me for that reason alone.

Well Kaylan has good mom material and good lover material but I agree not so much wife material. Though when you think how quickly she accepted MC she may have nymphomania.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Um, I did play through the Kaylan route+ harem, and, yes, I would consider Kaylan submissive. Just because Kaylan initially voices her frustration with the MC's decision to have a harem, doesn't change the fact she's willing to follow the MC's lead. She doesn't care about being first among the harem, just spending time with the MC, nor being the dominant voice between the two of them, unlike Aelinia. Kaylan has strong faith in the MC's decision-making even, unlike Dinah. Kaylan embraces the MC's harem and is willing to befriend the other members (Estrid, Cassia, etc). Kaylan is/was willing to sacrifice her comfy life in the capital to travel East with the MC's campaign against Queen Avila to be a source of comfort. Kaylan truly appreciates the MC what he does within the kingdom. If you want to say Kaylan isn't the perfect image of a submissive woman in a relationship, then that's fair, but to say she isn't submissive at all is not true whatsoever.

Well I tried to refer when she found out harem while she was engaged to MC, she went and said both to Cassia and Aelinia what was going on and pushed MC to be open about harem. She made out with Aelinia without asking you. She outright refuse harem thing if she will become secondary. She basically ordered MC to have kids with her without asking opinin of MC. If you asking me whether or not she is dominant I would say she is not, but not so submissive either IMO.

 

[Zerorox]

I can't call Kaylan submissive, she is Just smart enough to understand she has opponents in love, more beautiful, with better status, and being a control freak will not help her to achieve what she wants.
I can't say she's totally selfless, she use her mind, charms and body to find a nice to her, strong, succesful enough and dependable man and create a family, first try wasn't succesful and she's 27 y.o. woman already, woman's timer is goin' forward, her wishes are Just of normal woman. Most normal and adequate woman, realistic but not totally selfless or submissive.

Most Princess and girls are freaks of some kind, it is good, interesting, but Why not to create one normal woman, and it's Kaylan!

She quickly accepted MC cause she found what she wants (MC) and she wants to claim her man before concurents, and totally not cause of nymphomania or something))
That's what I saw at least

 

[gov112]

I can't call Kaylan submissive, she is Just smart enough to understand she has opponents in love, more beautiful, with better status, and being a control freak will not help her to achieve what she wants.
I can't say she's totally selfless, she use her mind, charms and body to find a nice to her, strong, succesful enough and dependable man and create a family, first try wasn't succesful and she's 27 y.o. woman already, woman's timer is goin' forward, her wishes are Just of normal woman. Most normal and adequate woman, realistic but not totally selfless or submissive.

Most Princess and girls are freaks of some kind, it is good, interesting, but Why not to create one normal woman, and it's Kaylan!

She quickly accepted MC cause she found what she wants (MC) and she wants to claim her man before concurents, and totally not cause of nymphomania or something))
That's what I saw at least

Yes exactly, she has to accept the fact that MC is a highly demanded commodity and she would have to fight for it. But from some of the storylines, I feel that either Lydia/Aelina would be highly pissed off if they are not chosen as queen and out of anger would kill/harm Kaylan

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Yes exactly, she has to accept the fact that MC is a highly demanded commodity and she would have to fight for it. But from some of the storylines, I feel that either Lydia/Aelina would be highly pissed off if they are not chosen as queen and out of anger would kill/harm Kaylan

Killing Kaylan will probably piss off at least half of the community I am sure.

She quickly accepted MC cause she found what she wants (MC) and she wants to claim her man before concurents, and totally not cause of nymphomania or something))

Oh that was a joke, nothing serious. Although I like your interpretation, she is one of the most normal character in game.

 

[JohnEffinDoe]

Bro the game aside, The dev IT Roy is a mothafuckin legend for releasing a how to guide on making visual, i would kiss him if he was infront of me, no homo

 

[Night Hacker]

Bro the game aside, The dev IT Roy is a mothafuckin legend for releasing a how to guide on making visual, i would kiss him if he was infront of me, no homo

Yeah, I love his Youtube tutorials. Not getting a kiss from me though. LOL

 

[Zerorox]

Yes exactly, she has to accept the fact that MC is a highly demanded commodity and she would have to fight for it. But from some of the storylines, I feel that either Lydia/Aelina would be highly pissed off if they are not chosen as queen and out of anger would kill/harm Kaylan

Nah, I don't think they'll harm her directly
Though probably I'll never choose her as queen if it comes to that/
Maybe she'll be a good or even Best queen but... queen is something related to politics not relationship so for Me it's:
1) Valentina (cause she's overpowered in all stats in rpg meanings, and fun to see bitches crying in anger +West support, Goddess support)
2) Lydia (cause good and smart political partner, +heavy east support, maximum Goddess support)
3) Aelina (cause predictable and most will be satisfied, +strong West support, and she looks and acts like perfect queen)
4) Viking Princess (cause strong alliance and military support)
5) Redhead slave, Flora or smth (If even for joke possible, cause total political suicide)

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

5) Redhead slave, Flora or smth (If even for joke possible, cause total political suicide)

Oh no she has best ending, MC runs away with Flora to her lands starts a resistance to kick back every other nation, they will became King and Quenn together like Arminius and Thusnelda.

 

[Zerorox]

Oh no she has best ending, MC runs away with Flora to her lands starts a resistance to kick back every other nation, they will became King and Quenn together like Arminius and Thusnelda.

Ehm, maybe
No matter how it'll ends with her, we can't ignore she denied former king somehow and had given her virginity to MC, super Hot, loyal, super Hot, strong, super Hot, brave, super Hot and who knows, maybe... Just maybe, some royalty from her kingdom, hidden in avg family and then captured...
Did I mentioned she's super Hot?)

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Ehm, maybe
No matter how it'll ends with her, we can't ignore she denied former king somehow and had given her virginity to MC, super Hot, loyal, super Hot, strong, super Hot, brave, super Hot and who knows, maybe... Just maybe, some royalty from her kingdom, hidden in avg family and then captured...
Did I mentioned she's super Hot?)

Really?! You mention Flora but didn't say super Hot?! You are a disgrace to this game.

 

[ThaDude1977]

So you prefer LIs who have no life, who are content to sit on a shelf waiting for the MC to allot some time to them? Not everyone shares your view. I prefer LIs who appear to have some agency, who actually exist outside of me.
Historically, G-G interaction was quite common in traditional harems.

Your very wrong G-G would have been very rare in a traditional Harem. Most Harems were for kings and higher ups and nobody messed with the Kings harem not even each other They were to stay pure for the king and if they did not they would be considered dirty and unworthy of the kings harem and would be either jailed or executed or the very least exiled. It was not till modern times did the meaning of harem change matter of fact i had never heard of women interacting with each other sexually in a harem till i started playing games on this site. And i have been reading hentai and watching anime for near 30 years sure they had yuri hentai but but it was rare to see it in a harem themed story.

 

[Zerorox]

There are few games with harem in historical sense, so it's even funny to compare to some east sultan's harem...
And I think purity meant not fucked by dick then, so Who knows how many Lesbo sex they had, but mostly they were concurents of some kind and had no reasons to interact that way (and Why even need that if you can be have fun with some maid or smth)
But anyway if there was no access to Men, they surely had some urges so... (same with Men, for example some soldiers, samurais, legioners...)

Anyway, it's not official "harem" MC have here, he Just fucks this women, so Why even bothering)

 

[ThaDude1977]

There are few games with harem in historical sense, so it's even funny to compare to some east sultan's harem...
And I think purity meant not fucked by dick then, so Who knows how many Lesbo sex they had, but mostly they were concurents of some kind and had no reasons to interact that way (and Why even need that if you can be have fun with some maid or smth)
But anyway if there was no access to Men, they surely had some urges so... (same with Men, for example some soldiers, samurais, legioners...)

Anyway, it's not official "harem" MC have here, he Just fucks this women, so Why even bothering)

I'm saying from a historical standpoint women did not interact sexually with each other in harems and for several reasons for one that i have already given in previous comment. 2. Religion played a much bigger role back then and we all know what Religion says about that. 3. The rarity of Lesbian/Bi women. 4. Women are not going to turn Lesbian/Bi simply because of lack of men around and they are horny. 5. Out side of Harems Women were treated mostly like property and to have your woman sleep with anybody else wether male or female would not have gone well. 6. It was a big deal for a woman to find a man and have children to survive they was considered worthless by the family if the daughter didn't find a man to have children with by a certain age. I'm just saying Lesbian/Bi in Harems would have been Really Rare for a combination of any of those reasons. Harem diffinition only changed for some till recent years because of society has been more excepted of gay/Lesbians. And to be fair Not till i come to this site did i even see women interact with each other sexually in a harem themed story it was pretty rare. And that's why people complain about Harems on this site they are not Harem when women interact sexually with each other Especially when they are in relationships with each other.