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Ello!would be a nice slave for the new house its a lot bigger
she would need be trained/broken in
Would make sense of the history Era the game is in. Making your biggest Enemy into MC Pet/slave.
Ello!would be a nice slave for the new house its a lot bigger
she would need be trained/broken in
Tamura has battle experience. Valentina doesn't need experience, she is a litteral genius.Sorry but that is a really poor idea. Neither Valentina nor Tamura have experience leading an army, not sure how much if at all Tamura knows about military strategy or more specific that of Caudium.
Also Caudim rejects women fighting, do you really believe the army would follow those two women as leaders ? Even more so against their deadliest foe...
maybe not a traitor by rather something like part of the spy network leadership. he seems too intelligent for his position, with too much unneeded initiative, and too laid backFelix is so obviously a traitor that I'd send him as far as possible from anything important if I could.
See, I don't think Lydia's been given the credit she deserves. If she and her family are part if a grand plot, then the most dangerous place to be is remaining at MC's side. It's been a week since Aristhenes' arrest (all of Roy's really short days and now a few "Two Days Later" skippage), and she has made no escape attempt for herself or her grandfather, to go warn/aid her brother, or her father, while having three days off from work. Instead she has consistently proved her loyalty, insisted to both Aristhenes and Aelinia that a married MC is family, and the most important member to her. She, along with both Aristhenes and Diana (who has no interest other than truth and justice in the whole ordeal), deny the validity of the revolt charges. And where do these charges come from? Felix, a soldier whose allegiance is dubious at best, citing witnesses whom we never see, and presenting easily forgeable evidence. There is also Isabella, who shares information ONLY when she or her father are accused, and only enough information to mitigate suspicion (by accusing Aristhenes, who's an easy scapegoat in prison), nothing more. Diana trusts the family, and she is certainly not naive or easily fooled, so I'm more inclined to believe her over a blonde bimbo and suspicious soldier.Agree that Lydia poses a risk, but on the other hand, if she really has such a strong loyality to her family (including MC as her hubby) and the MC can trust her she would make a really strong queen and her family support could be a large boon for finances, military power and stability.
yeah, dev said that he split the chapter in two because there was too much content, so the second half is chapter 12, and the former chapter 12 is chapter 13.You can stop her if you choose to, first MC can scold Helena for acting bitchy then you can choose Valentina and one of the others as an option.
I think chapter 11 is too different compare to previous chapters. One year break changed the writing style I suppose. Also, some of the grouping does not make any sense. For example, Eliana is just a bar wench how can she be part of palace politics. Flora taking side was also unbeknown to story. Also eastern faction clearly outweighs the western faction. Western faction does not bring anything to table except vague promise of cordial relationship with senate which does not have any power. Grachhi faction plays their cards extremely well tbh, I really liked how they unravelled. East offer a spy network, military power, soldiers, wealth both for MC and kingdom, a solemn promise for the logistics of military campaigns, also sounds like they will be helpful to get rid of hindrances of MC's path such as Marius etc. nothing even get close to that from other factions. Also how west conducts its business is so amateurish, they immediately went for threats but as far as story goes MC is good with carrots not stick. They sent two unknowns to MC, instead of known people. Even Grachhi used Kaylan to reach to MC. Looks like only Valentina aware of that. Btw, where was Isabel and Flavia. Sounds like Isabel is part of Eastern faction but nobody mentioned her as an option. It can be because her father does not have the best relations with other Eastern governors but still they should have at least mention her either in favour or against her. Flavia has patrician background and badblood with East, she should have been good ambassador for the West since Tullia supports her and she has good relationship with Eliana who is a representative for Grachhi, which would bring favourable deal to west from an alliance with Grachhi. I feel like this chapter was cut in half, to make it to timeline. If what I think is correct then next chapter will be same as this one and choosing the Queen will be left for upcoming chapters.
Btw, there is some overlook at the story. Looks like they forgot Valentina's good relationship with the East. She already took support of most of the Eastern governors for MC already, they do support her and MC. She also got full chest of gold as a goodwill token but at the chapter 11 story sidelined Valentina and put her as a Western faction deal.
As far as we know, Valentina is the only option for the Queen. She is basically deus ex machina of the story. She clearly has the favor of Goddess Anna. She is part of Western faction even though they do not appreciate her. She has good relations with East and support of most of the East. She is able to protect herself, which is a plus for military campaigns. She is extremly clever and has a good sense of politics unlike Aelina and well educated, well-read unlike Cassia. She travelled through the kingdom so she knows about it, this is a plus for non other option has as far as we know. She has unwavering loyalty to MC, that we can't say for most of the others. She has complete loyalty of Tamura, if we accept Tamura's deal she will serve as a frontier and having loyalty of the frontiers is extremely important. While North boiling Avila should be dealt swiftly and leaving eastern borders security to Tamura is the best deal MC can have. She brought money unlike others who only bring the promise of money. So only by choosing her MC can secure Western faction, Eastern Faction, Grachhi through the alliance then security to Eastern border and support of most the kingdom and on top of that she always brings good and very well thought advises to the table.
Btw, I think we will have option to choose faction and Queen separately. Though, choosing off the list candidate may bring some trouble.
Fair enough, though chapter 11 feel like shorter than other chapters. I don't have the numbers but I still think it was timeline thing, not update size.yeah, dev said that he split the chapter in two because there was too much content, so the second half is chapter 12, and the former chapter 12 is chapter 13.
Exactly, she is too powerful as it is. She offer as much as whole Eastern faction can offer, with some more on top of it. Western faction has nothing to offer and Grachhi is ready for alliance. That is why I thought we can make a faction choice as a separate option.Valentina should be in her own faction xD which reminds me that her scene where she pushes for the western faction felt forced. she should not want to push for that, because no one in her faction acknowledges her at all, except for being a queen option.
The problem with that west has nothing to offer if they don't pull something out of their ass. They can only offer full loyalty of senate but that is just a vague promise and nothing more. They are desperate tbh and if game does not allow to choose a queen from non allied faction then princesses can say farewell to their royal status.we definitely need more from the west faction. they basically only offer a bit of money, and Tullia knows MC doesn't care about money, she said so herself as the reason that she wanted MC brought in the capital, so it's VERY weird that she lets the senator only offer money. well money, and the promise not to assassinate MC xD so the only upside of choosing the west is to be able to choose the queen among the princesses and the former queen without upsetting the allied faction.
Am I mistaken or they did not even mention Isabella as an option in the game? I think eastern faction does not want to see her as the queen. Also if I am not mistaken her father is not very close to Eastern faction even though they are located in there. On top of that, Lydia may have hold grudge against her after all she sold all of them on a whim and betrayed on previous chapters.Isabella doesn't really matter to the eastern faction, she is only an option for queen. aside from that, she has very little power and her only connection is her father who is already part of the faction directly.
Flavia does not hate MC she hates Felix for some reason. She is still part of Western faction and close relationship with Eliana would help to keep West Grachhi alliance steady.Flavia hates MC, there is no chance she would come to negotiate with him, and she has no power at all. she is only loyal to the western faction out of respect for her grandfather. her only value for the faction is her close relationship with Eliana.
yeah those character changes were so extreme and so fast.''Valentina is the only option for the Queen''
Not gonna happen, neither her mother or her sisters
Well Valentina our gods choosen and Lydia make probably the best ones, objectively speaking...but yeah, i don't like either, so i'd go for Estrid, Kaylan or Eliana (our lovely bar wench)
Yeah the west-faction provides nothing but empty promisses and 'subtle' threats, from a organization which has barely, if any power and most don't really care about. Not to mention their queen selection just sucks, it's the worst of all 3 factions, the only possitive is that they don't mind a queen from the military faction if they are allied.
But yeah, Valentina was a rather disliked character early on, so roy gave her ''some'' character growth...which is a good idea, in theory.
Started as the childish, single minded MC fangirl, which no one took serious and married to her was more viewed as punishment.
Now she is a you mentioned a deus ex machina character. Good fighter all of sudden, has political allies which actually did send her funds (just in case it's needed, bevor the king even died) + promisse of support of several provincial governors, intelligent and has knowledge of politics, history..., favored by Anna, comes with a loyal Tamura, which offers to train superior cavalry etc...i mean, speaking about going a bit overboard in just a few days.
On the other hand the rest of the family took a real nosedive imo.
Helena, never was a fan of that old hag, but how she treats Valentina (especialy in the last 2 or 3 updates) really makes me want to give her a good bitch slap or two...and i'm not even a Valentina fan, althought she got way more sympathetic the last couple of updates.
Cassia...''I have other intelligence. Fashion intelligence...''
I mean, do you even need to add something there, she's a trophy wife at best...a bitchy, arrogant and narcissistic one, her only interests are her social standing and to waste money...obviously also completely lacks in anything to be a good support for the MC or the empire.
Aelinia, started out really good, sympathetic, intelligent and with knowledge about the empire, i liked her early on...than she started with her constant bitching, making demands, and became a alcoholic, i mean, whenever you see her she is downing a bottle, followed by more bitching as soon as something doesn't go her way...and i agree with Lydia, she's way to sure of her own brilliance.
As for her knowledge about ruling, i'd say she can't read the room.
Marius...i really hope we can depose of that little shit. Ideally something like an unfortunate accident on some military campaign...you know, arrow in the knee, followed by a sword through his neck
and this change is really the weirdest one. he went from hating the MC, to the point of trying to blackmail, to being the MC's pet in a matter of days, for no reason.Marius...i really hope we can depose of that little shit. Ideally something like an unfortunate accident on some military campaign...you know, arrow in the knee, followed by a sword through his neck
I think Aelinia did not change that much. The things people find annoying was always there. She is always a heavy drinker, she has always had bad ideas for what's going around her, also she has always had high regards for herself i.e. King Brennus situation, check how she talks about him.the change to Aelinia was weird though. she is supposed to be very calm, collected and mature. easy Queen material. you could say that her father's death would affect her and change her a bit, but she said herself that she wasn't affected that much. her drinking didn't seem that serious at first, only a bit of rare wine tasting, while now she empties several jars by herself for no reason.
I don't expect too much change from Cassia, only Valentina's effect. She was raised that way.Cassia stayed the same, even if she begins to change a little in the latest update. but only very slightly
As I see it, like Juliana said, those traits of Valentina was always there. After all, she was the only one who had the courage of travelling the kingdom, she was always a bookworm etc. Her immaturity was blocking her to shine and after she became more mature her true self started to showing.yeah those character changes were so extreme and so fast.
This is also did not change. He saw MC as a threat to so he tried to outmanoeuvre him, if MC assert dominance when Marius antagonised him he tried to buy MC by offering any of her sisters then when nothing worked he tried to blackmail him. The brief blackmail period was so clear, King was ready to skin MC alive. Now, MC holds the reigns. He has very big secret, even though MC does not use it against him, he knows it's always a bargaining chip and also he is not that stupid, he is aware MC standing between him and whoever tried to assassinate his father. He has no real option. I also think Helena influenced him to be more cordial with MC. So he is not a pet of MC but pet of Helena. We do need to get rid of him but in due time, no immediate danger.and this change is really the weirdest one. he went from hating the MC, to the point of trying to blackmail, to being the MC's pet in a matter of days, for no reason.
we don't need to get rid of him now, he is a very obedient pet, and serves as comic relief xD
no, it's because being on those paths trigger specific scenes that make the story and alliances coherent.Don't know if the dev ITRoy follows this thread or can be contacted, but the first 2 lines of this section in "ch11floranewroom.rpy" for the new update don't make sense:
if kaylan_path or aelinia_path or lydia_path:$ easterngracchi = Trueif kaylan_path or eliana_path or valentina_path:$ westerngracchi = True
Kaylan/Eliane both represent the Order or the Gracchi (Military) faction.
Lydia represents the Eastern Provinces faction
Aelinia/Valentina represent the Western Provinces faction
I think "aelinia_path" is an error & should have been "eliana_path" - but can understand the typo due to the similar names. Therefore I think the section should read:
if kaylan_path or eliana_path or lydia_path:$ easterngracchi = Trueif kaylan_path or eliana_path or valentina_path:$ westerngracchi = True
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The same goes for part of "ch11lydiareturns.rpy" :
if easterngracchi:scene ch11lydiareturns3 with dissolvel "I have wonderful news. We have agreed that we will be happy to work with the Order of the Gracchi. You can get the benefits of choosing both of our groups."if aelinia_path or kaylan_path:p "They agreed then?"l "I received word yesterday."
which I think should be:
if easterngracchi:scene ch11lydiareturns3 with dissolvel "I have wonderful news. We have agreed that we will be happy to work with the Order of the Gracchi. You can get the benefits of choosing both of our groups."if eliana_path or kaylan_path:p "They agreed then?"l "I received word yesterday."
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Thoughts?
It really feels like I need to replay the entire game to better get a handle on the whiplash from the character development redirects.yeah those character changes were so extreme and so fast.
Cassia stayed the same, even if she begins to change a little in the latest update. but only very slightly
the change to Aelinia was weird though. she is supposed to be very calm, collected and mature. easy Queen material. you could say that her father's death would affect her and change her a bit, but she said herself that she wasn't affected that much. her drinking didn't seem that serious at first, only a bit of rare wine tasting, while now she empties several jars by herself for no reason.
it's as if the dev switched Valentina and Aelinia xD
were these changes made to make the player regret their choices ?
pregnancy are not really tracked for now. creampies are only notifications.Pregnancy is being talked about many times in this game so far and creampies are being tracked.
So is there going to be pregnancy or pregnant content in this game???
you make the choice long before the ball actually happens.So I was replaying the game and at the ball scene I made a save so I can see all paths, yet it is locked to Aelinia. I choose her first, even tried going back a few saves. Any known fixes? I tried looking on the thread but could not find anything.
keeping Marius avoids a power struggle. MC doesn't have any legitimacy to the throne as of now. marrying a princess might help, but barely.Yeah he got better, still him as co-ruler is in my opinion just a handicap, adds risks and brings no merit...in the really short time all he did was being indiscret with his lover and making utter morronic propositions as splitting the empire in east and west...cause that worked so good the first time.
Honestly if he doesn't want to rule why bother, just let him retire in some villa out of sight, if his affair got out that would be more damaging and bring more chaos then if he would die on some battlefield.
And as, i think Tullia, said everyone with a brain knows that the MC is the ruler not Marius (which is not popular at all).
If the MC shows he is still close with the royal family or marries one of the princesses i don't think anyone would care, the east doesn't seem to care about the royal family either way and there is no hereditary rule, like the former king was not royality but a military commander before becomming the king a couple of years before the story started.
Here is my Multi-Mod for ToBeAKing-Ch.11
*PS: I didn't play the game, so I don't know about choices. Made the mod from watching the variables.*
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actually, Helena knows that Tullia pushed her to bring MC to the capital.As Tullia confessed she was the one who brought MC from front. Helena thinks she is the one but it was Tullia.
it says right there that he doesn't play the game, he only sets the green stuff because there are variables that are set with those choices. he doesn't know what the real "consequences" of the choices are.Errr Dark just played the update with you mod. Are you sure some of these variables are properly mentioned? A lot of your green options don't make sense, like why are you pushing to invite nearly everyone (except Kaylan, is there a reason she's the only one left out btw?) into the villa when we only have three beds to give away? Given that, shouldn't it be a neutral decision and up to the players preferences? And second during the Aelina confrontation you suggest to let her vent but if you choose push back instead you get extra dialogue and a make out scene, so why pick the venting option? And finally if you're with Queen Helena and choose to remind Tulia of that during her seduction attempt you get extra dialogue scenes with her and still get the option to be with Tulia (though not highlighted by you this time strangely) so why not go with that as the preferred option? Hope you can clarify or make some of these suggested changes with a quick update![]()
Ello!keeping Marius avoids a power struggle. MC doesn't have any legitimacy to the throne as of now. marrying a princess might help, but barely.
MC wants the avoid the issues the previous king had. Arricellus took the throne by force, had no legitimacy, and hence had assassination attempts among other issues.
Lydia could be playing that role thoughSee, I don't think Lydia's been given the credit she deserves. If she and her family are part if a grand plot, then the most dangerous place to be is remaining at MC's side. It's been a week since Aristhenes' arrest (all of Roy's really short days and now a few "Two Days Later" skippage), and she has made no escape attempt for herself or her grandfather, to go warn/aid her brother, or her father, while having three days off from work. Instead she has consistently proved her loyalty, insisted to both Aristhenes and Aelinia that a married MC is family, and the most important member to her. She, along with both Aristhenes and Diana (who has no interest other than truth and justice in the whole ordeal), deny the validity of the revolt charges. And where do these charges come from? Felix, a soldier whose allegiance is dubious at best, citing witnesses whom we never see, and presenting easily forgeable evidence. There is also Isabella, who shares information ONLY when she or her father are accused, and only enough information to mitigate suspicion (by accusing Aristhenes, who's an easy scapegoat in prison), nothing more. Diana trusts the family, and she is certainly not naive or easily fooled, so I'm more inclined to believe her over a blonde bimbo and suspicious soldier.