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Not sure about the illegitimate son bit... but endearing himself to MC, cutting MC off from the strongest support in the Empire (Aristhenes/Lydia/family, Diana),
the strongest support in the empire that confessed in front of the MC to be plotting against the Kings Family

blocking him from choosing a sound advisor (with Lydia, Valentina, Helena, and Aelinia blocked by "no women"
you know messuring his motives against modern world standards is foolish. Next you want to tell me that the death sentence for the commander of the palace guard for incompetence is unlawful because he didn't get a proper trial and the chance to face his accuser in a public court

Marius being an idiot, and Nicabar sick and likely dead soon, the only option is Felix), he's purposefully weakening MC's position.
How is it Felix's fault that Marius is gay and an idiot? Does he have brainwashing capability's and a gen-lab hidden beneath the palace?

Nicabar got sick when Felix arrived back, could be his fault could be a coincident, but the doctors said its fine and he just needs rest, they should be able to spot if someone got poisoned they are palace doctors after all. Also to note no one else got sick, so if he didn't poisoned Nicabars personal stash of whatever its highly unlikely that no one else shows symptoms.

All he needs now is manuever MC to give Felix orders to March the army East, so he takes command, but does not march, instead he storms the palace. Obviously the question arises on how he'll persuade the soldiers who admire and respect MC to turn against him?
He wouldn't. Not only are this the MCs Legions, there are also the Palace and City Guards stationed and Nicabars troops. So pretty much every non-essential combat formation of Caudeum (we know of) is right now stationed at the Capital. Its the absolutely worst time in the history of ever, you could pick to make a coupe against the MC specifically.

Even if MCs legion gets brain rot and decides to Kill him for no reason but that Felix told them they would be out numbered severely.

It's possible he'll reveal Marius' secret, and either claim that MC has been protecting Marius (which is true), or even claim that MC is Marius' lover, thus their proposition to "co-lead" is just a cover to have them replace Aricellus and Helena in all things.
MC can simply say he had no idea about Marius deviancies and he has soldiers (that know about his involvement with at least Valentina), the Princesses themselves and the Queen to back him up that he is straight, even without him sleeping with all women in an 10 mile radius that plan is more than just weak its outright moronic.
 
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1) Bi-sexual
2) Aricellus died thinking every one of his 4 children were virgins, and I think Helena might also think that by her husband's death. While Aristhenes and Marius knows that MC hasn't been "above board", they never learn the extent of his activities (I think Aristhenes presumed Lydia remained a virgin until her wedding). Diana also doesn't know when her daughter lost her virginity. At Marius' party, we all assumed that he was living large bang 2-3 prostitutes in his chambers... when apparently he doesn't fancy women at all, so that clearly didn't happen, but even the players didn't realize the truth. Plus only 4 people know said truth, which doesn't include Aricellus, Helena, or Aristhenes. My point being, all of MC's and Marius' fucking is taking place in the palace, and if the palace doesn't know what's going on, how can rank and file soldiers have any knowledge beyond some scant unverifiable rumors that MC and Marius truthfully like women?
1/ doesn't matter, MC can be already married to at least 3 women, and engaged to 5 others.
2/ I realized what Marius was hiding the moment he refused Estrid. and i was suspicious before that. i'm pretty sure many other players did too.
 

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So who are you guys considering taking as Queen and why? So far i am leaning between Aelinia and Kaylan. I am warry about aligning with Eastern faction but might change my mind but so far prospects are not so great there i feel
I was going to pick Aelinia, but her recent behavior changed my mind. I'm allying with the Eastern faction in order to end the war there. Once that region is stabilized, I can work on helping the west.
 

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I don’t if it’s been discussed before and if I’m the only one thinking this, but Felix is THE number one suspect to me, for many reasons:

1 – his sudden departure before the bal. When MC asks Nicabar, he says Felix’s wife is very ill, but when Felix is back, he says his son was ill but it was nothing.
2 – Flavia is very pissed at Felix, and we still don’t know why. He must have done/said something really bad to her because Flavia now hates MC too.
3 – He is the only one who found and executed the traitor guards working for Aristhenes, and also the one who found out that Aristhenes was conspiring with the East region. No proof, nada, except for a poor letter.
4 – he insists on the fact that MC should find an advisor, someone he deeply trusts, and definitely not a woman.
5 – Nicabar is now ill. Who is jumping at the opportunity to replace him? Yes, Felix again.

My theory: Felix poisoned the King and has now also poisoned Nicabar. He is obsessed by the MC, he sees him as a god, and wanted him to quickly become the new King and be his advisor/right-hand/general/whatever. He may also have abducted Cassia knowing MC would find her and be seen as a hero.
Yea that guy gives of a creepy vibe for sure. Your theory makes sense, at least something worth thinking about
 

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So who are you guys considering taking as Queen and why? So far i am leaning between Aelinia and Kaylan. I am warry about aligning with Eastern faction but might change my mind but so far prospects are not so great there i feel
Isn't Valentina the obvious choice - backed by a literal goddess, fiercy loyal to the MC, is in love not lusting for power, has connections and allies etc. Lydia offers a fairy similar choice for many reasons but of course the Eastern faction not West.

Part of me wants to marry someone who i KNOW will cause issues in my choosing them. Aelinia feels like she wants to be ruler herself and the MC an avenue to sate that lust for power (hence her anxiety about always being defacto number one woman in MCs life as well as her constant wine indulgence to calm her anger over not getting her way or her opinions being heard as much as she feels they should) so marrying her will likely be fireworks in the making. There is always the former Queen to see the ripple effects as the kingdom was lukewarm to her husbands rule as was without her getting a second stab at the role. The Danish princess could create a massive power alliance or open the door to a takeover by a rival kingdom big in strength with none of the turmoil facing our MCs own kingdom or their is always the good old local tavern wench to REALLY piss off a lot of the harem lol.
 

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the strongest support in the empire that confessed in front of the MC to be plotting against the Kings Family


you know messuring his motives against modern world standards is foolish. Next you want to tell me that the death sentence for the commander of the palace guard for incompetence is unlawful because he didn't get a proper trial and the chance to face his accuser in a public court


How is it Felix's fault that Marius is gay and an idiot? Does he have brainwashing capability's and a gen-lab hidden beneath the palace?

Nicabar got sick when Felix arrived back, could be his fault could be a coincident, but the doctors said its fine and he just needs rest, they should be able to spot if someone got poisoned they are palace doctors after all. Also to note no one else got sick, so if he didn't poisoned Nicabars personal stash of whatever its highly unlikely that no one else shows symptoms.


He wouldn't. Not only are this the MCs Legions, there are also the Palace and City Guards stationed and Nicabars troops. So pretty much every non-essential combat formation of Caudeum (we know of) is right now stationed at the Capital. Its the absolutely worst time in the history of ever, you could pick to make a coupe against the MC specifically.

Even if MCs legion gets brain rot and decides to Kill him for no reason but that Felix told them they would be out numbered severely.


MC can simply say he had no idea about Marius deviancies and he has soldiers (that know about his involvement with at least Valentina), the Princesses themselves and the Queen to back him up that he is straight, even without him sleeping with all women in an 10 mile radius that plan is more than just weak its outright moronic.
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2/ I realized what Marius was hiding the moment he refused Estrid. and i was suspicious before that. i'm pretty sure many other players did too.
I'm talking about the party where we meet Diana and Dinah, which is well before Estrid shows up, where there's no indication that Marius is NOT a lady lover. Now Estrid specifically, I just assumed Marius was sexist, as is Aricellus, Aristhenes, and Felix, therefore I conclude it's a cultural sexism, alone with the cultural disgust of homosexuality, both of which MC is abnormally immune to, apparently. I also know quite a lot of heterosexual men who absolutely refuse to be with a woman who is stronger, or taller, than he is, and since Estrid is both, Marius' response is in line with a "straight Marius".
 
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Not sure about the illegitimate son bit...
At the end of his codex entry, it says, "There are rumors that (Aricellus) has at least one other son through a mistress." If we assume that statement is a Chekhov's gun as opposed to red herring, Felix is the only viable candidate. Unfortunately, the codex is a contradictory mess, and the author is prone to retconning; therefore, it is possible that sentence means nothing.
All he needs now is manuever MC to give Felix orders to March the army East, so he takes command, but does not march, instead he storms the palace. Obviously the question arises on how he'll persuade the soldiers who admire and respect MC to turn against him?
Looking at the historical examples that inspire this game, a soldier's loyalty is mostly based on who provides him with the most loot. It is possible Felix is conspiring with Avila. If given control of an army, he could distribute a bribe among the soldiers. Another option, which doesn't preclude the first, is Felix marches the army into the east, and instead of fighting Avila, he sacks some relatively unguarded wealthy cities under the pretense of suppressing a rebellion. This would undercut support for the protagonist in the east, and after letting his troops loot said cities, Felix could turn around and march on Caudium.
My point being, all of MC's and Marius' fucking is taking place in the palace, and if the palace doesn't know what's going on, how can rank and file soldiers have any knowledge beyond some scant unverifiable rumors that MC and Marius truthfully like women?
We've been told that Cassia is loud enough to be heard outside her chambers, and the protagonist fucked her while there were guards literally stationed right outside her door. There are at least some soldiers who have reason to suspect that the MC likes women, and they've probably spread stories among others.
the strongest support in the empire that confessed in front of the MC to be plotting against the Kings Family
Ironically, the Aristhenes did the exact same thing that the MC did. The protagonist was plotting with Aelinia and Lydia to prevent Marius from attaining the throne, and ended up setting himself up as the senior partner, with all the real power, in charge of the government—just like Aristhenes.
you know messuring his motives against modern world standards is foolish.

Nicabar got sick when Felix arrived back, could be his fault could be a coincident, but the doctors said its fine and he just needs rest, they should be able to spot if someone got poisoned they are palace doctors after all. Also to note no one else got sick, so if he didn't poisoned Nicabars personal stash of whatever its highly unlikely that no one else shows symptoms.
Assigning modern competency to medieval doctors is also foolish: these are the same types of doctors that would ascribe illnesses to an imbalance of humors and evil spirits. Given that diseases spread faster than poisons, it is even more suspicious that a large number of troops are also not afflicted by whatever Nicabar has. On the other hand, this is a world with literal gods. It could be a case of divine interference.
He wouldn't. Not only are this the MCs Legions, there are also the Palace and City Guards stationed and Nicabars troops. So pretty much every non-essential combat formation of Caudeum (we know of) is right now stationed at the Capital. Its the absolutely worst time in the history of ever, you could pick to make a coupe against the MC specifically.

Even if MCs legion gets brain rot and decides to Kill him for no reason but that Felix told them they would be out numbered severely.
Most of the troops stationed in the capital are there in preparation for the campaign in the east. Whoever is given command of those troops will have the bulk Caudium's mobile military. The protagonist gained their loyalty with a few victories over Avila, conquering some land in the Caucasus, and selling some slaves; selling slaves made Caesar the richest man in Rome, but Gaul was much larger than Alania, and even Caesar had legions defect to Pompey. If Felix leads the army east and is "more successful" than the MC, he will have the most powerful military force in Caudium loyal to him.
MC can simply say he had no idea about Marius deviancies and he has soldiers (that know about his involvement with at least Valentina), the Princesses themselves and the Queen to back him up that he is straight, even without him sleeping with all women in an 10 mile radius that plan is more than just weak its outright moronic.
The MC having the royal family, on whom he is basing some of his legitimacy, all come out admitting to being his whores might not be the look the MC wants.
 
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At the end of his codex entry, it says, "There are rumors that (Aricellus) has at least one other son through a mistress." If we assume that statement is a Chekhov's gun as opposed to red herring, Felix is the only viable candidate. Unfortunately, the codex is a contradictory mess, and the author is prone to retconning; therefore, it is possible that sentence means nothing.

Looking at the historical examples that inspire this game, a soldier's loyalty is mostly based on who provides him with the most loot. It is possible Felix is conspiring with Avila. If given control of an army, he could distribute a bribe among the soldiers. Another option, which doesn't preclude the first, is Felix marches the army into the east, and instead of fighting Avila, he sacks some relatively unguarded wealthy cities under the pretense of suppressing a rebellion. This would undercut support for the protagonist in the east, and after letting his troops loot said cities, Felix could turn around and march on Caudium.

We've been told that Cassia is loud enough to be heard outside her chambers, and the protagonist fucked her while there were guards literally stationed right outside her door. There are at least some soldiers who have reason to suspect that the MC likes women, and they've probably spread stories among others.

Ironically, the Aristhenes did the exact same thing that the MC did. The protagonist was plotting with Aelinia and Lydia to prevent Marius from attaining the throne, and ended up setting himself up as the senior partner, with all the real power, in charge of the government—just like Aristhenes.

Assigning modern competency to medieval doctors is also foolish: these are the same types of doctors that would ascribe illnesses to an imbalance of humors and evil spirits. Given that diseases spread faster than poisons, it is even more suspicious that a large number of troops are also not afflicted by whatever Nicabar has. On the other hand, this is a world with literal gods. It could be a case of divine interference.

Most of the troops stationed in the capital are there in preparation for the campaign in the east. Whoever is given command of those troops will have the bulk Caudium's mobile military. The protagonist gained their loyalty with a few victories over Avila, conquering some land in the Caucasus, and selling some slaves; selling slaves made Caesar the richest man in Rome, but Gaul was much larger than Alania, and even Caesar had legions defect to Pompey. If Felix leads the army east and is "more successful" than the MC, he will have the most powerful military force in Caudium loyal to him.

The MC having the royal family, on whom he is basing some of his legitimacy, all come out admitting to being his whores might not be the look the MC wants.
Thank you. Great points all around. I just want to add one thing. You correctly pointed out that ITRoy is inconsistent, and while yes Cassia is apparently a bedroom loudmouth, she is also the first princess MC beds, and Aricellus never finds out about any of the "shenanigans" happening under his roof. Surely some loyal guards would have informed the king between the first "engagement" and the ball... or ITRoy just wants to have his cake and eat it too... and don't call me Shirley.
 
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I'm talking about the party where we meet Diana and Dinah, which is well before Estrid shows up, where there's no indication that Marius is NOT a lady lover. Now Estrid specifically, I just assumed Marius was sexist, as is Aricellus, Aristhenes, and Felix, therefore I conclude it's a cultural sexism, alone with the cultural disgust of homosexuality, both of which MC is abnormally immune to, apparently. I also know quite a lot of heterosexual men who absolutely refuse to be with a woman who is stronger, or taller, than he is, and since Estrid is both, Marius' response is in line with a "straight Marius".
it seems you are misremembering things. Estrid arrives in chapter 5 and Marius' party is in chapter 6. so Estrid arrives "well before" the party, actually.
 

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*Dons and straightens signature 'Internet Pedant Extraordinaire' Hat*

Have started playing for the first time and while impressed overall with the care put into the setting, characters, and plot compared to many games featured on this site I couldn't let it go that Kaylen is identified, repeatedly, as a "weaver" and then consistently regarded as if she was a tailor/seamstress.

Weavers, as a profession, make cloths not clothes.

I'm baffled by this lack of technical precision in the script for what is otherwise shaping up to be a triple-A, triple-X, game.

I may need to join the relevant Patreon just so I can quit it in protest over this incomprehensible oversight. It's practically the same as the creator suddenly including sexual predilections that I do not find appealing.

HARRUMPH!
 
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Thank you. Great points all around. I just want to add one thing. You correctly pointed out that ITRoy is inconsistent, and while yes Cassia is apparently a bedroom loudmouth, she is also the first princess MC beds, and Aricellus never finds out about any of the "shenanigans" happening under his roof. Surely some loyal guards would have informed the king between the first "engagement" and the ball... or ITRoy just wants to have his cake and eat it too... and don't call me Shirley.
I think you may be discounting the social divide: If you look at an upper-class Victoria household, most of the staff probably knew that the master may be getting under the skirts of one of the maids or that the mistress might be indulging in a dalliance with a gentleman caller, but while they likely gossiped among themselves about it, they wouldn't discuss it among polite society. Even in today's world, whistleblowing is very rare; imagine how much more courage it would take in a highly socially-stratified society.

Think of the mental calculus of a common soldier. You heard a rumor that someone had heard from someone else that they had heard from someone else that they heard from a guard on duty that the famous, loyal general and the royal princess had "a lot of fun" inside her chambers alone together. What do you think would happen if you went to the king and disparaged these two dignitaries to him? In all likelihood, the best you could probably hope for is being dismissed from your post; at worst . . .

Hell, the MC snapped at a soldier in the tavern for suggesting that he might be interested in marrying into the royal family which impinged on the honor of those involved. That is my verbose way of saying, there are just some things that commoners don't discuss with their betters.
*Dons and straightens signature 'Internet Pedant Extraordinaire' Hat*

Have started playing for the first time and while impressed overall with the care put into the setting, characters, and plot compared to many games featured on this site I couldn't let it go that Kaylen is identified, repeatedly, as a "weaver" and then consistently regarded as if she was a tailor/seamstress.

Weavers, as a profession, make cloths not clothes.

I'm baffled by this lack of technical precision in the script for what is otherwise shaping up to be a AAA, XXX, game.

I may need to join the relevant Patreon just so I can quit it in protest over this incomprehensible oversight. It's practically the same as the creator suddenly including sexual predilections that I do not find appealing.

HARRUMPH!
That hits a little too close to home. I'm a huge history geek. While I enjoy the game generally and appreciate what the author is trying to do, whenever I think of the details, it starts to hurt my head. The names are wrong, the military equipment is wrong, things contradict each other. At times, I have to tell myself it's just a game and forcibly turn my brain off. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Yeah, being consistent is not really the strong point of this game. The whole early game is a complete timeline mess. I'm pretty sure for example that after it's said that the festival is in six days it takes around two weeks to actually get there. There are multiple instances of promising to see someone "tonight" while multiple "the next day" transitions go through before that actually happens. Plot introduces urgent things but then there's only time for a single conversation per day for a week etc. etc.
 
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I think you may be discounting the social divide: If you look at an upper-class Victoria household, most of the staff probably knew that the master may be getting under the skirts of one of the maids or that the mistress might be indulging in a dalliance with a gentleman caller, but while they likely gossiped among themselves about it, they wouldn't discuss it among polite society. Even in today's world, whistleblowing is very rare; imagine how much more courage it would take in a highly socially-stratified society.

Think of the mental calculus of a common soldier. You heard a rumor that someone had heard from someone else that they had heard from someone else that they heard from a guard on duty that the famous, loyal general and the royal princess had "a lot of fun" inside her chambers alone together. What do you think would happen if you went to the king and disparaged these two dignitaries to him? In all likelihood, the best you could probably hope for is being dismissed from your post; at worst . . .

Hell, the MC snapped at a soldier in the tavern for suggesting that he might be interested in marrying into the royal family which impinged on the honor of those involved. That is my verbose way of saying, there are just some things that commoners don't discuss with their betters.

That hits a little too close to home. I'm a huge history geek. While I enjoy the game generally and appreciate what the author is trying to do, whenever I think of the details, it starts to hurt my head. The names are wrong, the military equipment is wrong, things contradict each other. At times, I have to tell myself it's just a game and forcibly turn my brain off. :ROFLMAO:
"loyal general"? We already know MC is brought in after assassination attempts, and there is an ongoing search for traitors, and the guards would certainly know of this. Thus if Aricellus is already looking for traitors, he's more open to hearing accusations, and reward loyal informants. In fact we've already seen how willing he is to heed informants and jump to conspiracy theories when he finds out about MC and Kaylan getting engaged as a sign that his two "loyal" generals are joining forces to conspire against Aricellus and remove from the throne. And who informed him of the engagement? Likely one of the guards, who was just passing gossip and didn't think of it as treachery but good news, or Felix, who is trying to cause trouble. So Aricellus is already primed to suspect both MC and Nicabar of being disloyal, and based on Aricellus' own ascension to the throne, MC IS his biggest threat, which is probably a major reason why Aricellus wasn't keen on bringing him to the Capital, but was finally pressured into it by Helena (who was convinced by Tulia).
 
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"loyal general"? We already know MC is brought in after assassination attempts, and there is an ongoing search for traitors, and the guards would certainly know of this. Thus if Aricellus is already looking for traitors, he's more open to hearing accusations, and reward loyal informants. In fact we've already seen how willing he is to heed informants and jump to conspiracy theories when he finds out about MC and Kaylan getting engaged as a sign that his two "loyal" generals are joining forces to conspire against Aricellus and remove from the throne. And who informed him of the engagement? Likely one of the guards, who was just passing gossip and didn't think of it as treachery but good news, or Felix, who is trying to cause trouble. So Aricellus is already primed to suspect both MC and Nicabar of being disloyal, and based on Aricellus' own ascension to the throne, MC IS his biggest threat, which is probably a major reason why Aricellus wasn't keen on bringing him to the Capital, but was finally pressured into it by Helena (who was convinced by Tulia).
actually, Kaylan's engagement is verifiable, so it's much more believable. also, it could be Nicabar that came himself to announce it out of happiness and wanting to share with his former army superior and friend. also, Aricellus really likes MC and is very oblivious to the reality of his kids. people might have already told him several times of the potential issues with MC and his daughters, but he chose to dismiss those without a second thought. Aristhenes might have helped there, as even if you don't ally with him, he still wants MC on the throne instead of Marius, soMC being thrown in jail or executed doesn't help his long term goals. Aricellus also might have access to the spy network from Alessia, so he might have heard stuff from them too, like Kaylan's engagement, and the eastern faction want MC on the throne, so they probably protected him from the shadows.
 

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actually, Kaylan's engagement is verifiable, so it's much more believable. also, it could be Nicabar that came himself to announce it out of happiness and wanting to share with his former army superior and friend. also, Aricellus really likes MC and is very oblivious to the reality of his kids. people might have already told him several times of the potential issues with MC and his daughters, but he chose to dismiss those without a second thought. Aristhenes might have helped there, as even if you don't ally with him, he still wants MC on the throne instead of Marius, soMC being thrown in jail or executed doesn't help his long term goals. Aricellus also might have access to the spy network from Alessia, so he might have heard stuff from them too, like Kaylan's engagement, and the eastern faction want MC on the throne, so they probably protected him from the shadows.
Again, Roy's inconsistency strikes. Aristhenes basically blurts out MC's actions in front of Aricellus, but the king is so single-tracked that he misses the revelation, telling everyone to get back on the meeting's agenda, and later Aristhenes and Marius threaten MC to tell Aricellus. When Aricellus demands an answer from Nicabar and MC, they said that the engagement wasn't meant to be a secret, and that they were going to publicly announce it, including to the King, but that the turn of events was so recent they hadn't gotten to the announcement yet. So Nicabar wasn't the king's source.
 

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Again, Roy's inconsistency strikes. Aristhenes basically blurts out MC's actions in front of Aricellus, but the king is so single-tracked that he misses the revelation, telling everyone to get back on the meeting's agenda, and later Aristhenes and Marius threaten MC to tell Aricellus. When Aricellus demands an answer from Nicabar and MC, they said that the engagement wasn't meant to be a secret, and that they were going to publicly announce it, including to the King, but that the turn of events was so recent they hadn't gotten to the announcement yet. So Nicabar wasn't the king's source.
yeah. we will never really know now. it was meant to just be a small thing anyway. it could be as silly as Nicabar blurting it out without thinking when the king asked what's new with him in a private chat, Nicabar still wanting a formal public announcement afterwards.
 

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Again, Roy's inconsistency strikes. Aristhenes basically blurts out MC's actions in front of Aricellus, but the king is so single-tracked that he misses the revelation, telling everyone to get back on the meeting's agenda
To be fair, Aristhenes throws this accusation infront of the king even if you don't have anything going on with the princesses.
 
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So who are you guys considering taking as Queen and why? So far i am leaning between Aelinia and Kaylan. I am warry about aligning with Eastern faction but might change my mind but so far prospects are not so great there i feel
From a character design standpoint, my favorite models are Cassia, Katerina, and Kaylan. Unfortunately, Katerina is still mostly an unknown, and despite some early promise, Cassia has turned into a petulant child. From a character standpoint, my favorite characters were Aelinia, Kaylan, and Valentina. Unfortunately for the princesses on the list, they have both slipped: Aelinia has turned into an alcoholic shrew, and I do not particularly enjoy Valentina being retconned into little Miss Great-at-Everything. It looks like Kaylan is my choice. Depending on how the game progresses and my overall enjoyment, I might do other playthroughs, but I suspect that none of the "major" choices will end up having much impact in the end.
Part of me wants to marry someone who i KNOW will cause issues in my choosing them. Aelinia feels like she wants to be ruler herself and the MC an avenue to sate that lust for power (hence her anxiety about always being defacto number one woman in MCs life as well as her constant wine indulgence to calm her anger over not getting her way or her opinions being heard as much as she feels they should) so marrying her will likely be fireworks in the making. There is always the former Queen to see the ripple effects as the kingdom was lukewarm to her husbands rule as was without her getting a second stab at the role. The Danish princess could create a massive power alliance or open the door to a takeover by a rival kingdom big in strength with none of the turmoil facing our MCs own kingdom or their is always the good old local tavern wench to REALLY piss off a lot of the harem lol.
If you want to create ripples, the best choice might be Isabella: She is the only character that causes you to lose faction points when you add her to the harem. Her family has been implicated by Alessia, and she and Lydia are already squabbling. Looking at the game code, selecting her as your queen annoys the most people with all three princesses annoyed by the choice.

Another option would be Estrid. While she is essentially inoffensive to all of Caudium's factions, making her your queen might be as good as declaring war on both the Gauls and Brennus.

As for the factions, it seems the Eastern faction has the most benefits; however, keeping in mind major choices might have little actual impact and the story is inconsistent, the Eastern faction also seems the most fragile. Both Lydia and Isabella have implicated the other's family in conspiracies against the crown. Alessia is suspicious. According to the codex, her father is involved with the discussions of eastern governors about seceding—something not mentioned Isabella's codex entry, she has some relationship with Felix, and she was born outside the kingdom (Roman Lauri is modern Woerden, which Caudium lost to the Gauls centuries ago, although the author may have meant Laurium, a range of hills in Attica, Laurium, a common misspelling of Lorium in Etruria, or Lauriacum, a town in Noricum). In any case, the Eastern faction has already demonstrated factionalism and backstabbing. While that might aid the MC in that a divided faction is easier to manipulate and less of a threat, it also makes it more difficult to leverage the wealth which is the faction's main selling point.

While I'm rambling, I'll throw in my two cents about Marius. I hope we get a chance to kill him. He is at the very least grossly incompetent. At worst, he's treacherous and grossly incompetent. Sending him to lead the campaign east would be a disaster. Having him accompany the MC on the campaign east would, at best, be a distraction. Leaving him at Caudium while the MC campaigns in the east will all but guarantee that the protagonist will return to a mess in the capital. Aricellus was only king for six years which far too short a time to instill dynastic loyalty, and most of any loyalty the family possesses comes from the personal popularity of the queen and the princesses. Marius is far more of a liability than an asset. The only reason he is still breathing is because the MC values the happiness of his family. Perhaps the best option is to convince Marius to "retire" somewhere remote with Sextus where his ability to influence anything is as small as possible.
"loyal general"? We already know MC is brought in after assassination attempts, and there is an ongoing search for traitors, and the guards would certainly know of this. Thus if Aricellus is already looking for traitors, he's more open to hearing accusations, and reward loyal informants. In fact we've already seen how willing he is to heed informants and jump to conspiracy theories when he finds out about MC and Kaylan getting engaged as a sign that his two "loyal" generals are joining forces to conspire against Aricellus and remove from the throne. And who informed him of the engagement? Likely one of the guards, who was just passing gossip and didn't think of it as treachery but good news, or Felix, who is trying to cause trouble. So Aricellus is already primed to suspect both MC and Nicabar of being disloyal, and based on Aricellus' own ascension to the throne, MC IS his biggest threat, which is probably a major reason why Aricellus wasn't keen on bringing him to the Capital, but was finally pressured into it by Helena (who was convinced by Tulia).
The MC and Nicabar have already led successful campaigns, and neither has made a bid for the throne. Having a competent, loyal general was very rare in the past. In most instances, rewarding loyalty foremost usually precludes retaining competence. Usually, they would have been married into the royal family to ensure their continued loyalty. The fact that Aricellus hadn't already married off a daughter or two to Nicabar and/or the MC lacks verisimilitude. His line about wasting a daughter on an already loyal general is stupid. Those would be among the best candidates to whom to wed a daughter.

We also know that rumors concerning the protagonist and Valentina had already reached the king, but he had discounted them. We know that when Marius attempts to blackmail the MC, the player can reject him, and even Marius is reluctant to bring specific allegations to his father without actual proof. It is a cost-benefit analysis: what is the likelihood of getting a good outcome from an action versus the potential risks? The lower you are in social hierarchy, the greater the likelihood of bad outcomes while also having smaller rewards for good outcomes.

There are a couple of points concerning the MC's engagement to Kaylan. Firstly, Aricellus first verified it with the MC. To start, it was just a troubling rumor. Once it was confirmed, then Aricellus became angry. Secondly, it was a marriage alliance. It now made Nicabar and the MC closer to each other than either was to the king. It effectively made Caudium's entire mobile military a unified power block. It turned the entire balance of power on its head. Before that, if Nicabar had marched on Caudium, Aricellus could have called on the MC and his army to oppose him or vice versa. The governors spied on the army. The army spied on the governors. The governors competed against each other. The generals were threats to each other. And everyone owed their positions to the king. That's how a system like that worked, when it worked. Of course, much of the time it didn't work, such as two generals forming an alliance. That was an existential threat to Arcellus's position.

Finally, the accusation wouldn't be made about the MC alone. It is about the MC and one or more of Aricellus's precious daughters. Parents can be very protective of their children. I've seen videos of parents in court where their children are charged with things like arson or murder, with video evidence, where the parent still denies their children did anything wrong and lashes out against anyone who says otherwise. A paranoid ruler is as much a threat against the accuser as the accused.
 

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Another option would be Estrid. While she is essentially inoffensive to all of Caudium's factions, making her your queen might be as good as declaring war on both the Gauls and Brennus.
Good, that would be my goal either way, it's just that Avila is given priority.

While I'm rambling, I'll throw in my two cents about Marius. I hope we get a chance to kill him. He is at the very least grossly incompetent. At worst, he's treacherous and grossly incompetent.
Yeah, Marius is a problem no matter what and honestly i want to kill that little shit.
You can't give him an army...loyalty aside, the sheer incompetence of him would waste a lot of Caudiums strength, and that is best case, not worth it.
You can't leave him behind, because you can't trust him what he will do alone, even if he doesn't try to backstab the MC, he will make a mess of things.
He also doesn't have any other uses... what is this guy even good at...

You could make him retire in some Villa, but he could still act as soon as the MC on a military campaign. Or take him with you on a campaign and hope he isn't too much of a burden. Maybe there is even a nice change to get rid of him permanently, accidents happen, and it wouldn't the first time soldiers getting rid of an incompetent leader.
 
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