Raziel_8

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Apparently Sextus feels that he's good at one. lone. skill. heehee

...I’m personally hoping that he "leaves" by divine punishment, as Anna hinted at.
Is taking it in the ass considered a skill :ROFLMAO:
True, we could just snitch to Anna he tries to set up Minerva as the main goddess, replacing her...then we order some popcorn and watch what she will do to him.
 
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One thing that I find strange and annoying is that if I press ctrl or alt it starts skipping the scenes as if I had already played them, but the chapter is new, and now when playing another route I don't know what the differences are if I don't play by reading all the text instead of pressing ctrl and seeing only the differences
 
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Good, that would be my goal either way, it's just that Avila is given priority.
Brennus and Segamaros need to be dealt with eventually, but the issue is timing. Concurrent wars with three neighbors may not be wise.
You could make him retire in some Villa, but he could still act as soon as the MC on a military campaign. Or take him with you on a campaign and hope he isn't too much of a burden. Maybe there is even a nice change to get rid of him permanently, accidents happen, and it wouldn't the first time soldiers getting rid of an incompetent leader.
My first inclination was to give him a task such as guarding a hill with a small force directly between my army and Avila, but there is too much chance of him being captured and used as a pawn by the Libani queen.
Is taking it in the ass considered a skill :ROFLMAO:
There's an idea. Perhaps Prince Jarvis plays for the other team. Would it be possible to offer Avila a trade? We can send Marius to the Libani as Prince Jarvis's bride in exchange for her daughter. (Does Avila have a daughter? It doesn't mention one in the codex, but I have some vague recollection of one being mentioned in the game.)
One thing that I find strange and annoying is that if I press ctrl or alt it starts skipping the scenes as if I had already played them, but the chapter is new, and now when playing another route I don't know what the differences are if I don't play by reading all the text instead of pressing ctrl and seeing only the differences
You need to go into settings and make sure skip unseen text is not selected.

A couple more things. I forgot about Dinah. After Kaylan, she is probably second choice for queen. I'm not the biggest fan of the party-girl persona, but she has her charm.

We've discussed whom we'd pick for queen, but here's a question for anyone interested. When Persephone was visiting Anna, they mentioned the one person who would be a horrible choice for queen. To whom do you think they were referring? My first thought was Cassia, but then I reconsidered. Cassia is vain and immature, but all she really wants is to dress pretty and be admired. She is the definition of arm candy. She wouldn't be the best queen, but she wouldn't be horrible. She would play the role well in public and not get in the way in private. My next thought was Aelinia. Earlier in the game, I thought she was one of the better options, but she has been displaying more selfishness and power hunger recently; therefore, I not confident in her anymore. Then there is Alessia. I don't trust Alessia. Her father is involved in the conspiracy of eastern governors, she has a spy ring, and she has connections to Felix. Now, I'm sure she'll be loyal enough to the MC once he's given her a taste of the Goddess Anna-blessed Magical D—I usually despise the magical dick trope, but this is one occasion where it kind of works. Unfortunately, she refuses to sleep with the MC until after he makes her queen, and she can do a lot of damage before that. Diana is a strong, independent woman and runs a successful business. She strikes me as a "my way or the highway" type which may not be the best fit for queen. In the end, though, I must pick Isabella. She is literally the crazy ex who dumped you because she thought things could be better for her only to come back later and be all pissy to see you with someone else and trying to act all cool and suggesting threesomes even though it is established that she was the jealous type when dating her before. She is probably the closest thing this game will have to "Don't stick your dick in crazy." Yeah, so my vote goes to Isabella. Anyone willing to offer a guess?
 

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So who are you guys considering taking as Queen and why? So far i am leaning between Aelinia and Kaylan. I am warry about aligning with Eastern faction but might change my mind but so far prospects are not so great there i feel
Honestly I go for the alliance with Eastern faction + Order of the Gracchi, the richest with the poorest, although both have the goal of finishing with Avila and conquering lands, you would have Diana's funds, Alessia's spy network and with the loyalty of the military you would have a good support, as for the queen on this route I'm leaning more towards Lydia, she may be dangerous but the goddess Anna seems to favor her quite a bit so that dismisses the danger in my view, choosing her would put all 4 Western faction queen candidates angry or uncomfortable but I tried to pull out the charisma points so it should compensate. you can also add Diana to your harem if you chose to marry Dinah (I still don't play the path where you choose her first, I don't know if you can add Dinah to your harem later).
The Western faction offers you money, support of any military campaign and control of public opinion? but this last one by allying with the Order of the Gracchi is no longer implicit? of course they also want to expand the territory, As I understood it they did not have some independent force (military) that could provide assistance unlike the eastern governors, but it would provide you with greater political stability since you would have the senators accepting any law you wished to enact and not making excuses for you; as for the queen my choice would be between Valentina and Aelinia, the first one gives you unconditional support and she is being developed as an intelligent and good character in several areas, the second one has a strong will, knowledge of politics and it seems that she can win more easily the affection of the people (although in theory you would already have their support) but she has a great desire for power which is not bad, for now, the thing would be in the future if she wants to have more power or more influence than she would have when she is elected queen. The most affected would be Lydia but I have the feeling that she would not cause as much trouble as Aelinia or Helena.
As for the issue of promoting the goddess Anna as the only goddess the eastern provinces are the most complicated as they have different cultures and gods they worship, it would be a point to mention if you want to sign an alliance with them in my opinion.
 
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We've discussed whom we'd pick for queen, but here's a question for anyone interested. When Persephone was visiting Anna, they mentioned the one person who would be a horrible choice for queen. To whom do you think they were referring?
For me, Alessia is the one we know the least about, she has a network of spies, her father could be a traitor and her past with Felix doesn't put her in a better light, he is the one who could generate more problems in the future.
Isabella, she has deceived the Mc looking for the "best" for him, she is not trustworthy but I think the Mc could "dominate" her to avoid some scheme she could come up with, but in the end I think she lacks political skills and I don't know how good a role she can play as the image of the QUEEN to the public, but I don't think she is that bad, in my opinion she is below Cassia and Dinah (as I consider all lack political skills but for me Cassia would be very loved by the people and Dinah with some help would do just fine).
Some might think of Dinah as she is young, somewhat shy and likes to party; but she has the background of her mother (who has shown a lot of business savvy and could guide her) and with some lessons she could make a decent role, not in the political arena (she has shown no interest in learning anything) but in the social one.
Diana, while she has shown a strong will and that things are done her way, I doubt very much that she would be the worst choice, very business savvy, a wealth of resources and connections as well as experience even place her among the best choices in my view if the Mc manages to keep their relationship from becoming a power struggle.
Eliana, I don't think she has a great knowledge of politics but I think she can play a great image as a queen after enduring a turbulent start, she is someone sociable and quite well known by the people.
However the worst would be someone you don't even know - Alessia.
 
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Brennus and Segamaros need to be dealt with eventually, but the issue is timing. Concurrent wars with three neighbors may not be wise.
True, a three-front war would be bad with the current military strength.
But we still have a peace treaty with the Gauls for the moment, but they sure don't like marriage with Estrid...well best choice is waiting for a envoy from them as the treaty is expiring and playing for time. Who knows they might even offer an interesting deal, with the Danes getting more aggressive.

Brennus...i don't trust this guy at all, or anything he proclaims/offers, he has a lot of troops at the border, seems for some reason really want our local alcoholic and it is stated he has regular contact with Avila. Neither do i believe the war against the Danes has him as weakened as he says, Estrid never mentioned they are close to winning the war.
Add to that, he has to uphold face, was already offended as Aelinia rejected him, now again rejected (depending on choice Aelinia send his massanger back with a kick in the nuts or the MC send them back dead).

So while i would prefer dealing with Avila first and then focus on the nord, that may not be the best choice if she and Brennus are in cahoots...i expect he's only waiting for a chance to strike, at the very least cause a lot of chaos at the border.

My first inclination was to give him a task such as guarding a hill with a small force directly between my army and Avila, but there is too much chance of him being captured and used as a pawn by the Libani queen.
Yeah was a idea of mine too. The thing is, i don't believe he has any honor or duty to fight a losing battle and would rather surrender...not to mention him fighting until death or taking his own life for his defeat...
You could of course always ignore Avila if she has any demands for him, but that would not go down well with the people i imagine, ruining the MC's reputation and credibility.

There's an idea. Perhaps Prince Jarvis plays for the other team. Would it be possible to offer Avila a trade? We can send Marius to the Libani as Prince Jarvis's bride in exchange for her daughter. (Does Avila have a daughter? It doesn't mention one in the codex, but I have some vague recollection of one being mentioned in the game.)
Brennus and Segamaros both have daughters which are eligible for marrige, well Brennu's daughter is the heir.
I think i vaguely remember hearing that Avila has a daughter, but that is all, she isn't mentioned with name or in the codex.
But if you want insult Brennus sending him Marius as bride instead of Aelinia will work well i imagine :LOL:

We've discussed whom we'd pick for queen, but here's a question for anyone interested. When Persephone was visiting Anna, they mentioned the one person who would be a horrible choice for queen. To whom do you think they were referring?
As Diana rejects to be queen, my guess is either Isabella or Alessia.
But i tend towards Alessia, Isabella has a lot of faults and her family...but Alessia seems more suspicious (and a lot more competent/dangerous) to me. Be it her spy network, the involvment in the conspiracy and/or especially her involvment with Felix.

Aelinia is a other choice i don't think would go well. Not because she would backstab the MC, but her alcohol problems, bad temper, hunger for power and very feminist heavy view on politics is just asking for trouble. I also don't believe she is as brilliant as she believs to be, neither as good in politics.
 
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I can understand the dislike towards Marius, but killing him would only bring trouble with rest of his family and that's trouble that i don't want in my three sisters and their mother harem. Best possible solution is basically just having him live in a nice villa on some remote island with Sextus and few servants, that way harem stays happy and not wanting vengeance upon your ass and Marius isn't causing trouble. He isn't credible threat when he is put on some remote villa, since he is extremely incompetent. Just need to let his family see how incompetent he is and that he isn't going to produce any grandchildren for Helena and they'll come around to that idea.
 
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I can understand the dislike towards Marius, but killing him would only bring trouble with rest of his family and that's trouble that i don't want in my three sisters and their mother harem. Best possible solution is basically just having him live in a nice villa on some remote island with Sextus and few servants, that way harem stays happy and not wanting vengeance upon your ass and Marius isn't causing trouble. He isn't credible threat when he is put on some remote villa, since he is extremely incompetent. Just need to let his family see how incompetent he is and that he isn't going to produce any grandchildren for Helena and they'll come around to that idea.
To be honest, I liked Marius better when he was a potentially competent political rival at court who seemed intent on barring the MC from gaining any sort of claim on the throne. The more pathetic and "sympathetic" the author tries to make him, the less I like him. I can respect a magnificent bastard antagonist; I can't respect a pathetic fool.

Perhaps we could tell Marius that there is a critical shortage of Tyrian purple dye, and it is making Cassia very sad. Since he got her kidnapped, he owes it to her to take Sextus to Magodor and oversee the trade. The Romans built some lovely villas there, and Marius must remain there until the situation is resolved to the protagonist's liking. It is a very important job, don't you know? Without enough purple dye, senators and other important government official won't be able to properly display how important they are. Without that, the entire political system will collapse. It will be chaos; chaos I tell you! No, it has nothing to do with sending Marius away to what is perhaps the most remote island in the empire. And if Marius is truly incompetent and manages to screw up the supply, it might be Cassia who demands his assassination; and who am I to deny such a humble request from my lovely bride?
 
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When Persephone was visiting Anna, they mentioned the one person who would be a horrible choice for queen. To whom do you think they were referring?
I do wonder if this is truly an objective statement, or just the goddesses' personal feelings/preferences. Like Valentina looks to be an objectively great queen candidate, but Minerva would call her "the worst" option, simply because Valentina is a hardline Anna devotee.

I can understand the dislike towards Marius, but killing him would only bring trouble with rest of his family and that's trouble that i don't want in my three sisters and their mother harem. Best possible solution is basically just having him live in a nice villa on some remote island with Sextus and few servants, that way harem stays happy and not wanting vengeance upon your ass and Marius isn't causing trouble. He isn't credible threat when he is put on some remote villa, since he is extremely incompetent. Just need to let his family see how incompetent he is and that he isn't going to produce any grandchildren for Helena and they'll come around to that idea.
They would get upset only if they could trace his death back to you... which is why I'm rooting for Anna to finish him off, because then MC's hands are clean. Aelinia actually prefers Marius' "absence", Helena and Valentina won't dare question their goddess' judgment, so only Cassia might need convincing (again).
 
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Good, that would be my goal either way, it's just that Avila is given priority.


Yeah, Marius is a problem no matter what and honestly i want to kill that little shit.
You can't give him an army...loyalty aside, the sheer incompetence of him would waste a lot of Caudiums strength, and that is best case, not worth it.
You can't leave him behind, because you can't trust him what he will do alone, even if he doesn't try to backstab the MC, he will make a mess of things.
He also doesn't have any other uses... what is this guy even good at...

You could make him retire in some Villa, but he could still act as soon as the MC on a military campaign. Or take him with you on a campaign and hope he isn't too much of a burden. Maybe there is even a nice change to get rid of him permanently, accidents happen, and it wouldn't the first time soldiers getting rid of an incompetent leader.
BRO ! conquering Avila and making her Queen... please consider that :D

even if Marius doesn't want to do anything if you left him alone in the capital, people from the western faction, especially the senators, will make him do stuff for them. a ticking nuclear bomb :D
 
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Brennus and Segamaros need to be dealt with eventually, but the issue is timing. Concurrent wars with three neighbors may not be wise.

My first inclination was to give him a task such as guarding a hill with a small force directly between my army and Avila, but there is too much chance of him being captured and used as a pawn by the Libani queen.

There's an idea. Perhaps Prince Jarvis plays for the other team. Would it be possible to offer Avila a trade? We can send Marius to the Libani as Prince Jarvis's bride in exchange for her daughter. (Does Avila have a daughter? It doesn't mention one in the codex, but I have some vague recollection of one being mentioned in the game.)

You need to go into settings and make sure skip unseen text is not selected.

A couple more things. I forgot about Dinah. After Kaylan, she is probably second choice for queen. I'm not the biggest fan of the party-girl persona, but she has her charm.

We've discussed whom we'd pick for queen, but here's a question for anyone interested. When Persephone was visiting Anna, they mentioned the one person who would be a horrible choice for queen. To whom do you think they were referring? My first thought was Cassia, but then I reconsidered. Cassia is vain and immature, but all she really wants is to dress pretty and be admired. She is the definition of arm candy. She wouldn't be the best queen, but she wouldn't be horrible. She would play the role well in public and not get in the way in private. My next thought was Aelinia. Earlier in the game, I thought she was one of the better options, but she has been displaying more selfishness and power hunger recently; therefore, I not confident in her anymore. Then there is Alessia. I don't trust Alessia. Her father is involved in the conspiracy of eastern governors, she has a spy ring, and she has connections to Felix. Now, I'm sure she'll be loyal enough to the MC once he's given her a taste of the Goddess Anna-blessed Magical D—I usually despise the magical dick trope, but this is one occasion where it kind of works. Unfortunately, she refuses to sleep with the MC until after he makes her queen, and she can do a lot of damage before that. Diana is a strong, independent woman and runs a successful business. She strikes me as a "my way or the highway" type which may not be the best fit for queen. In the end, though, I must pick Isabella. She is literally the crazy ex who dumped you because she thought things could be better for her only to come back later and be all pissy to see you with someone else and trying to act all cool and suggesting threesomes even though it is established that she was the jealous type when dating her before. She is probably the closest thing this game will have to "Don't stick your dick in crazy." Yeah, so my vote goes to Isabella. Anyone willing to offer a guess?
Dinah is actually a blank slate, to me. She wanted to be a party girl, because of her friends, but she is not one. she just wants to be loved, and enjoy some level of attention and care. MC can easily make her into a strong and very loyal queen, and make her impervious to her mother's influence, which Dinah will be very thankful for.

if we continue to fuck Anna, she might get punished and lose her divinity, then she could become a queen candidate! :D
 

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Honestly I go for the alliance with Eastern faction + Order of the Gracchi, the richest with the poorest, although both have the goal of finishing with Avila and conquering lands, you would have Diana's funds, Alessia's spy network and with the loyalty of the military you would have a good support, as for the queen on this route I'm leaning more towards Lydia, she may be dangerous but the goddess Anna seems to favor her quite a bit so that dismisses the danger in my view, choosing her would put all 4 Western faction queen candidates angry or uncomfortable but I tried to pull out the charisma points so it should compensate. you can also add Diana to your harem if you chose to marry Dinah (I still don't play the path where you choose her first, I don't know if you can add Dinah to your harem later).
The Western faction offers you money, support of any military campaign and control of public opinion? but this last one by allying with the Order of the Gracchi is no longer implicit? of course they also want to expand the territory, As I understood it they did not have some independent force (military) that could provide assistance unlike the eastern governors, but it would provide you with greater political stability since you would have the senators accepting any law you wished to enact and not making excuses for you; as for the queen my choice would be between Valentina and Aelinia, the first one gives you unconditional support and she is being developed as an intelligent and good character in several areas, the second one has a strong will, knowledge of politics and it seems that she can win more easily the affection of the people (although in theory you would already have their support) but she has a great desire for power which is not bad, for now, the thing would be in the future if she wants to have more power or more influence than she would have when she is elected queen. The most affected would be Lydia but I have the feeling that she would not cause as much trouble as Aelinia or Helena.
As for the issue of promoting the goddess Anna as the only goddess the eastern provinces are the most complicated as they have different cultures and gods they worship, it would be a point to mention if you want to sign an alliance with them in my opinion.
actually, it's the same for Dinah. if you chose her mother first, then you can also suggest to get the daughter later in the same scene and she accepts under the same condition.
 
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For me, Alessia is the one we know the least about, she has a network of spies, her father could be a traitor and her past with Felix doesn't put her in a better light, he is the one who could generate more problems in the future.
Isabella, she has deceived the Mc looking for the "best" for him, she is not trustworthy but I think the Mc could "dominate" her to avoid some scheme she could come up with, but in the end I think she lacks political skills and I don't know how good a role she can play as the image of the QUEEN to the public, but I don't think she is that bad, in my opinion she is below Cassia and Dinah (as I consider all lack political skills but for me Cassia would be very loved by the people and Dinah with some help would do just fine).
Some might think of Dinah as she is young, somewhat shy and likes to party; but she has the background of her mother (who has shown a lot of business savvy and could guide her) and with some lessons she could make a decent role, not in the political arena (she has shown no interest in learning anything) but in the social one.
Diana, while she has shown a strong will and that things are done her way, I doubt very much that she would be the worst choice, very business savvy, a wealth of resources and connections as well as experience even place her among the best choices in my view if the Mc manages to keep their relationship from becoming a power struggle.
Eliana, I don't think she has a great knowledge of politics but I think she can play a great image as a queen after enduring a turbulent start, she is someone sociable and quite well known by the people.
However the worst would be someone you don't even know - Alessia.
Diana explicitly refuses to be queen, and won't reconsider. Helena, on the other hand, relented, so if you want a milf with experience as queen, she would be a good choice, as she is already well liked in that role.
 

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Diana explicitly refuses to be queen, and won't reconsider. Helena, on the other hand, relented, so if you want a milf with experience as queen, she would be a good choice, as she is already well liked in that role.
yes but since that was not known at the time of the comment who was not a good choice for queen it came in as a possibility.
 

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In my opinion I feel like this is one of the big problem most Dev/Writer have when they deep in the Novel game or run long they forget some of the minor detail which never mention again until someone mention to them to either make a small rush story to add flavor. This is why I love reading the debate here seeing the missing info that could be in the game. (y)
 
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