Dragon59

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If you tell someone that my history and my people's beliefs are mythology, you become history. Great examples are Asia, America, the Middle East
Hellenic Pagan? Not many people in Hellas still follow the Old Ways, the Old Beliefs.
 
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Dragon59

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Or, consider Firefly. There's a reason that it failed when the, what 5th Star Trek series? ran for years. And that reason had nothing to do with how good Firefly was (it was incredible, and I'll die on that hill). It had everything to do with the fact that a lot more people watched Star Trek than Firefly.

Back in the 80's the only way we could get Science Fiction movies was to have Arnold Schwarzenegger in them. That was because people would go see an Arnold movie regardless of what it was, so the producers had the latitude to do something new.

An organism's resistance to change (new things) is called "Homeostasis" and it's more than human nature. It's considered one of the criteria for classifying something as alive. It's the reason our ancestors didn't all die off when they found a new set of red berries (that happened to be poisonous). And it's the reason sequels and reboots of berries that are known to not be poisonous will always do better than new IPs.

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I would also say that the management at Fox had a lot to do with it well, but that was also probably related to the homeostais--they were notorious for not letting new IPs build in popularity.

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OK, that is super helpful. Thanks! I think I googled "tora productions" and that didn't come up near the top of the returns so I had not seen it. (y)

Well, there weren't any Lost-style red-herrings, so it seemed pretty obvious to me that everything the MC encounted was relevant without needing multiple replays. :unsure: Chekhov's gun and all that. It would be neat to play a complex narrative that did have a bunch of extra "clues" that turn out to be unrelated. Just like IRL in a murder investigation not every detail turns out to be related to the murder itself, so a big part of a real case is the investigator determining which "clues" are relevant and which are not. Unfortunately few games are that in depth [HINT, HINT Tlaero :ROFLMAO:].

Kevin Feige on line 1 with his legal team, cxx...

Well don't do that. It was great, and the only Whedon content I bury my head in the sand and allow myself to watch in 2023.

And now I will just sit back and await the inevitable angry posts about why there isn't a tag for "homeostasis" if you're going to include homeosexual content, you monster!
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Years ago, I saw a banner being pulled behind a small plane that said, "HELP FOR HOMEOSEXUALS" followed by a phone number.

I thought, is a homeosexual similar to homeopathy? People sustained by the memory of being in contact with sex long ago, despite time and dilution?
 

Dragon59

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It is both misogynistic and dated. You stated an absolute that "women love drama," which is so oversimplified it says more about the person saying it than the subject of the conversation. You did not say "some" or "many or "most," you lumped all women - every single one of them - together as if they were not individuals with their own varying tastes.

And your use of the term stay-at-home-mons is less egregious but it is clearly outdated. Since you seem to love stats so much, why don't you look up the demographics of stay-at-home-moms. You will find that in 2023 there are virtually no SAHM anymore other than almost exclusively wealthy, white women because the economics of single-income homes are no longer feasible for the vast majority of working-class families. So your sweeping generalisms make even less sense since in reality they only apply to a small subgrouping of "women" in the first place.

But the lack of logic in your post is made even more glaring when you say something telling like "every person I know who watches soaps is a woman" as evidence that your generalization must be true. Clearly you do not understand that the entire world is made up many different people most of which are not exaxtly like the ones you know personally.

These 5 humans that I know like apples ALL humans like apples.​

This is basic elementary school logic. And using anecdotes as support for statistics shows a fundamental lack of understanding of statistics in the first place.

Or instead of all that I suppose I could just use your rationale and say that I know three women who can't stand soap operas. Therefore, all women hate soap operas. Q.E.D. :rolleyes:
It reminds me of the phrase:
The plural of anecdote is not data.
 
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The reaction to Aisha really surprised me. Since I treated a trans person as a human being, I expected a lot of hatred from the, "There are only two genders!" and "You're indoctrinating our children!" types. I'm very pleased to have gotten none of that.

On the other hand, I was less pleased with all of people who see "trans" as a kink instead of an identity.

She's certainly attractive, though. Especially when she smiles. Mortze did a fantastic job with her.

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uh?

me complaining about the attractiveness of the female cast has absolute nothing to do with acceptance. the fuck is wrong with you?

we are talking about a porn game here in case you didnt notice. i am straight, i like my women without penises when iam jacking off.

having the only 10/10 chick in the game, while the rest of the girls are 6/10 at best, be trans is fine if you advertise your game as such. which didnt happen. hence my dissapointment. its not rocket science.

i have literally trans ppl in my life which i love and respect. gtfo here talking about acceptance and making this some woke victim olympics.
 

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uh?

me complaining about the attractiveness of the female cast has absolute nothing to do with acceptance. the fuck is wrong with you?

we are talking about a porn game here in case you didnt notice. i am straight, i like my women without penises when iam jacking off.

having the only 10/10 chick in the game, while the rest of the girls are 6/10 at best, be trans is fine if you advertise your game as such. which didnt happen. hence my dissapointment. its not rocket science.

i have literally trans ppl in my life which i love and respect. gtfo here talking about acceptance and making this some woke victim olympics.
First the trans character doesn't have a penis, and there is a tag on the thread anyway. Then not every one has the same tastes as you, Aisha being the only one you like is your problem.
 

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First the trans character doesn't have a penis, and there is a tag on the thread anyway. Then not every one has the same tastes as you, Aisha being the only one you like is your problem.
no, thats not my problem. thats just my preference.
 

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I gotta know how they bring down the Company!
Yeah, but... A handful of stations deep below the surface of Europa. Each with a handful of crew. All completely dependent on the Company surface facilities and intersystem transport for food/water/resupply. They could certainly do quite a bit of subversion to slow/interfere/combat the Company's research and plans, but they are in no position to do much of anything else. So unless there was a time jump of many years where enough Toro station crew had had time to return to Earth and infiltrate the Company high up enough to be able to do anything significant, I don't see an easy path to continue the narrative in the direction of bringing down the Company. It certainly wouldn't be any of the characters we know except maybe the MC many years later.
I would also say that the management at Fox had a lot to do with it well
Well, certainly. A moving, inconsistent time slot and not airing the episodes in story order were a death knell for a new show. The smell test says Fox realized quickly that the tone was different than what they had hoped for from Whedon (too much diversity and not enough sexy teen girls) and did everything they could to bury it early before it gained too much traction.
Years ago, I saw a banner being pulled behind a small plane that said, "HELP FOR HOMEOSEXUALS" followed by a phone number.
It's an interesting thought to wonder how much religion-based hatred comes down to those people having poor reading/language/comprehension skills. :unsure: For example, calling yourself "Christian" but somehow missing/misunderstanding everything that Jesus ever said or did about love and acceptance. Or with homosexuality specifically...what exaclty do they think was happening when a bunch of guys spent 40 days in tents out in the desert??? :censored:
It reminds me of the phrase: The plural of anecdote is not data.
As Ted says when Dr. Sharon tells him that to be his mentor she must sometimes be his tormentor... I like that!
i am straight, i like my women without penises when iam jacking off.
And the whole entire world is just like you, so there should never be anything thought, written, produced, etc. that doesn't suit your individual taste! The fuck, world? How dare you dispespect this little boy in such a fashion? He is the only person in the world who matters!!! If he's not happy then dammit I quit!
thats not my problem.
The World: sadly, you are our problem
 
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affeimzoo

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... bla bla bla
what a fucking circus this thread is.

i love how you raging moron cut out the part of my quote where i explicitly say its ok to have that preference and focus in game.

like i know this is just a porn forum but the inability to just read and comprehend plain text of some of these intellectual giants in here is quite frankly astonishing.
 
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what a fucking circus this thread is.

i love how you raging moron cut out the part of my quote where i explicitly say its ok to have that preference and focus in game.

like i know this is just a porn forum but the inability to just read and comprehend plain text of some of these intellectual giants in here is quite frankly astonishing.
I know this is just a porn forum but we should try to be civil. I think you are reading unnecessary malice into people's texts and lashing out because of that. I hope this is just (regrettably) normal internet behaviour and you are not like this in your face-to-face interactions. Getting angry will hurt yourself the most (and leads to the dark side).
 

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I know this is just a porn forum but we should try to be civil. I think you are reading unnecessary malice into people's texts and lashing out because of that. I hope this is just (regrettably) normal internet behaviour and you are not like this in your face-to-face interactions. Getting angry will hurt yourself the most (and leads to the dark side).
to nitpick an argument which wouldnt work without cutting out certain parts of what i wrote is malicious behaviour. there is no reading into it. its gaslightning and bad taste. although on second thought people like that are not even worth a reply.

good luck.
 

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Any idea why sound was neglected in this game? Even if the dev didn't want a soundtrack, some ambient sound in the background would have added a lot to the experience. Do they just assume we all play games muted, or something?
 
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Any idea why sound was neglected in this game? Even if the dev didn't want a soundtrack, some ambient sound in the background would have elevated the game. Do they just assume we all play games muted, or something?
yup, majority of players do play actually (there was a poli in one game thread with a few thousands participants).
stop wasting time on sounds, or even worse "music", while it can be spent much better on actual storrytelling, rendering etc is the thing most of the dev should adopt.

unfortunately there are some devs thinking sound/music add "substance" to their games, and there are some players who think indie devs are huge studious with various resources, so adding meaningful "sound and music" is a piece of cake for them (not gonna comment on 99% of sounds and music in these games which are, with all due respect to those putting it in their games and those enjoying it, an utmost garbage quality)...if you wanna that level of wholeness do check movies/cinema, though lately those are garbage as well...even with all sound effects and its original (or not) music . :KEK:

kudos to the devs of avn that focus on the main things and not spent their resources on some side things as musics/sounds are. :Kappa::BootyTime:
 

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Any idea why sound was neglected in this game? Even if the dev didn't want a soundtrack, some ambient sound in the background would have added a lot to the experience. Do they just assume we all play games muted, or something?
well sexsounds sound just awful, music is tough to get (even free music license can prevent it's use in avn), adding sounds and music can increase devving time.
 

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Not being able to romance Aisha as a dude reminded me of Dragon Age inquisition.
Where you couldn't romance Sara if you played as a dude

Why the heck do I always fall for the lesbian girls lol

Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing what the devs do next
This was a great game
And I'm glad It didn't drag on like a lot of games do

I think one of my favourite things about this game is the writing it's awesome imo
 

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yup, majority of players do play actually (there was a poli in one game thread with a few thousands participants).
stop wasting time on sounds, or even worse "music", while it can be spent much better on actual storrytelling, rendering etc is the thing most of the dev should adopt.

unfortunately there are some devs thinking sound/music add "substance" to their games, and there are some players who think indie devs are huge studious with various resources, so adding meaningful "sound and music" is a piece of cake for them (not gonna comment on 99% of sounds and music in these games which are, with all due respect to those putting it in their games and those enjoying it, an utmost garbage quality)...if you wanna that level of wholeness do check movies/cinema, though lately those are garbage as well...even with all sound effects and its original (or not) music . :KEK:

kudos to the devs of avn that focus on the main things and not spent their resources on some side things as musics/sounds are. :Kappa::BootyTime:
Firstly, post link to poll or just "trust me bro."
Secondly, poll not definitive as much as you would like it to be.
Thirdly, you could say the same thing with any aspect that contributes to a game, visuals, branching, etc. It's just that according you own personal opinion that sound ranks lower on the hierarchy.
Lastly, GTA series to this day are still looked back with nostalgia due to their soundtracks. Is this feasible to the same degree by an indie dev? No, but it demonstrates the power of thoughtful sound design can have for a game.
well sexsounds sound just awful, music is tough to get (even free music license can prevent it's use in avn), adding sounds and music can increase devving time.
Agree, poorly implemented sound can negatively affect the experience, but so can janky animation, etc. Adding sound and music can increase dev time, but so can extra story, visuals, etc. What is the marginal cost/benefit of adding sound vs what you could spend that on something else? My guess is that some sound would trump a complete lack of it.
 
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