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acondo

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JUST A NOTE.

The femdom its omnipresent throughout the entirety of game, so that warning at the OP it’s a lie. And no matter how hard you try its impossible to avoid. :(
 

matschbirne

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JUST A NOTE.

The femdom its omnipresent throughout the entirety of game, so that warning at the OP it’s a lie. And no matter how hard you try its impossible to avoid. :(

my illusiono_O, to escape this house of sin is now broken:oops:
 

YogSothoth1982

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JUST A NOTE.

The femdom its omnipresent throughout the entirety of game, so that warning at the OP it’s a lie. And no matter how hard you try its impossible to avoid. :(
That's why I quit the game, it didn't look like it was going to change at any time. even despite the warning:

Warning: Because of the nature of the plot, heavy femdom elements exist in the first parts. The game will feature both vanilla content and a plethora of fetishes, but never on the extreme version, so I invite everyone to keep an open mind and have fun. :3
Personally, the early BDSM and femdom was enough to make me quit the game. I don't know if it will ever have a point, as stated in the game summary where there will be more fetishes and a more vanilla route (from which I played it didn't seem like it at all, but still). But I suppose it will be too late for my taste by then (in fact I'm not likely to try the game again).

I suppose the game will be interesting for people with these BDSM and femdom fetishes, but I don't know if at this point there will be people who dislike those fetishes and stay in the game.

In my case it would only be possible to return to the game if a deep remodeling of the beginning was made (which isn't going to happen or I really ask, I only expose the reality of what I think). Or if Dev allowed us to abandon ALL LIs with femdom and BSDM and go with others (even if he gives us a vanilla route with them, I don't like them anymore, so I wouldn't want to follow those routes) I don't think that will happen either.
 

YogSothoth1982

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The game is as good as it is now. There is no need to change.
Personally, I don't think Dev is going to change the game because I don't like it. At least I think he shouldn't.

If you like it, that's fine. Not me, but I started it because he said that Femdom and BDSM would last a short time and that it could be eliminated later. It hasn't been like that, so I stopped shortly. It isn't very likely that I will return, and I think that at this point the best thing the Dev can do is to focus on Femdom and BDSM and forget any intention of including vanilla routes (unless it interests the current public).

As I say, the players who don't enjoy these fetishes will have abandoned the game (if they have tried it) and I don't know if those who are now will want a radical change (since they will really be enjoying the game as it is now)

In any case, I'm not going to tell the Dev how he has to develop his game. I have only responded to one other player who seemed disappointed that he was unable to eliminate BDSM and femdom as the dev put in the first post.
 
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DogStar

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Well I can tell you that there was a poll made on patreon 2 patches ago where Hiru asked its members if they wanted less femdom, the same amount or more femdom in the future.

The results were significantly in favor of more femdom, so I doubt vanilla will ever be a focus.
 

HirumaYoichi

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Personally, I don't think Dev is going to change the game because I don't like it. At least I think he shouldn't.

If you like it, that's fine. Not me, but I started it because he said that Femdom and BDSM would last a short time and that it could be eliminated later. It hasn't been like that, so I stopped shortly. It isn't very likely that I will return, and I think that at this point the best thing the Dev can do is to focus on Femdom and BDSM and forget any intention of including vanilla routes (unless it interests the current public).

As I say, the players who don't enjoy these fetishes will have abandoned the game (if they have tried it) and I don't know if those who are now will want a radical change (since they will really be enjoying the game as it is now)

In any case, I'm not going to tell the Dev how he has to develop his game. I have only responded to one other player who seemed disappointed that he was unable to eliminate BDSM and femdom as the dev put in the first post.
The last unavoidable femdom scene was in v0.7, 3 months ago (and well, in the latest one there is some unavoidable spanking, but it's not that heavy still (and it's tied to the plot.). These are these the early stages of the game so the warning is true.

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Look at the image. ~11 out of the 30 scenes are Femdom/Bdsm. There are vanilla routes: Amy/Sophie (and Julia in the future? Who knows!), but it's not like they are tied to it. There could and will be mixed scenes with different fetishes with many girls.

Now, most of the scenes for now are Megan/Julia/Sophie/Amy. If you ignore the 3 of them, of course it's going to feel like a femdom only game... and if you expect vanilla with Megan, it's not going to happen.

I'm not saying that the game will be going vanilla. It had vanilla content and will continue having.
But plenty, PLENTY of femdom is on its way... albeit avoidable for whoever doesn't want it.
 

Byczer

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i couldnt even play,she only put a game to play and after that the scene change to the night.
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Most likely your relationship score is low. Before playing sophie changes the subject and says "let's continue playing blackjack".
 

YogSothoth1982

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The last unavoidable femdom scene was in v0.7, 3 months ago (and well, in the latest one there is some unavoidable spanking, but it's not that heavy still (and it's tied to the plot.). These are these the early stages of the game so the warning is true.

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Look at the image. ~11 out of the 30 scenes are Femdom/Bdsm. There are vanilla routes: Amy/Sophie (and Julia in the future? Who knows!), but it's not like they are tied to it. There could and will be mixed scenes with different fetishes with many girls.

Now, most of the scenes for now are Megan/Julia/Sophie/Amy. If you ignore the 3 of them, of course it's going to feel like a femdom only game... and if you expect vanilla with Megan, it's not going to happen.

I'm not saying that the game will be going vanilla. It had vanilla content and will continue having.
But plenty, PLENTY of femdom is on its way... albeit avoidable for whoever doesn't want it.
I see that the game now has vanilla scenes. I tryed the game a long time ago, the same after the second or third updates.

I don't like femdom, nor maledom (nothing related to domination) nor BDSM, nor spanking, nor do I have a special predilection for the foot fetish (I neither like nor dislike it, I'm indifferent). Personally, I could only have been interested in the game if I could have avoided both domination and BDSM from the beginning. The only thing I remember for sure about the game is that I especially hated the character of Megan. Without a doubt, her scenes were the ones that completely took me out of the game...

Unless you tell me that now I can avoid the BDSM scenes (I think I saw 3 or 4, I don't know if there are more unavoidable, at least unavoidable when I played) with Megan that was at the beginning of the game, and any other femdom scene with the rest of the girls who have it, I think I'll pass the game. I don't feel like suffering from Megan again, so I will surely skip the game even if those vanilla scenes exist, as I say Megan's BDSM and femdom is too much for me and I won't see it again.
 

acondo

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Well I can tell you that there was a poll made on patreon 2 patches ago where Hiru asked its members if they wanted less femdom, the same amount or more femdom in the future.

The results were significantly in favor of more femdom, so I doubt vanilla will ever be a focus.
:ROFLMAO: Well of course, it’s a femdom game.

These polls mate... That’s like asking fat people if they like pie.:ROFLMAO:
 

hvarbo

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So I started playing the new version and got to the point where you could choose to tie yourself to the bed for Megan. As I make my choice I start hearing about some discord messages. I think to myself fuck that, I'm on my main save where I ignored pretty much every girl to get full Megan points, whatever it is can wait.
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So long story short, I think my computer has been hacked.
 

Ranting Old Man

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I think Dev is doing a good job. I know Dom/Sub isn't for everyone but this is without a doubt the closest dom/sub I've seen on this site to what I would consider a realistic relationship than most of the other games out there. Generally as started by another Generally Dom Sub Devs go WAY off the deep end into cruelty and humiliation to an extreme degree. This often is why I pass on Femdom or Maldome and BDSM that often shows up in these games. It's immersion breaking, unbearable and unbelievable. Meanwhile, Dev here has actual experience in BDSM and Dom/Sub and it shows.
This shit is about Trust and you can see Megan loose interest in MC when she learns there isn't trust and starts to move away from him, however if you're good and obey her she rewards you, more and more as a Femdom would in reality. Greater Megan is somewhat abusive but arguably it's a very small degree and needed to progress the story. Most people who are into BDSM don't actually know it until it happens and good Doms can tell the difference between, "GET THE FUCK OFF ME YOU CRAZY BITCH!" and "get off me you crazy bitch!" One is clearly enraged and horrified while the other is angry but coming to terms with what's happening. One will never be a Sub while the other is still learning about themselves.

This game does a very good job at capturing a more realistic Dom/Sub relationship than what most games do. I was able to enjoy it because even though it's forced in the beginning, your relationship turns into something positive. I promise you this. IF someone was to try and ACTUALLY hurt MC, there would be no place on Earth that person could hide from Megan. It's very easy to see how much she cares about him and the dynamic is what makes this game great.

So yes, if your aren't into Dom/Sub and BDSM I can see why this might be unappealing. But if you are this game brings it back on a measurable and believable level. This game is PERFECT if you don't know much about Dom/Sub and BDSM and wanted to learn more about it without getting into the far reaching unbelievable bullshit that comes with most of the genre, then this is the right place to learn. Learn along side the MC and you might just realize that it's not as bad as it seems.

Thanks for reading.
 

jhustrue

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Well I can tell you that there was a poll made on patreon 2 patches ago where Hiru asked its members if they wanted less femdom, the same amount or more femdom in the future.

The results were significantly in favor of more femdom, so I doubt vanilla will ever be a focus.
Well... when you make a game featuring femdom, it's not surprising that your patrons like femdom and want more of it. The first few versions scared away anyone who doesn't like femdom, and only started coming back after the dev made that message on the OP. Was a pointless poll, tbh, the results were predictable. He does need to remove that message at this point though, if he plans to continue making unavoidable femdom. It's misleading.
 
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DogStar

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Well... when you make a game featuring femdom, it's not surprising that your patrons like femdom and want more of it. The first few versions scared away anyone who doesn't like femdom, and only started coming back after the dev made that message on the OP. Was a pointless poll, tbh, the results were predictable. He does need to remove that message at this point though, if he plans to continue making unavoidable femdom. It's misleading.
Actually I was surprised about the results. The game is more softcore femdom, so I thought there would be more patreons who were into more vanilla porn. But I guess you're right.

My point though is that if Hiru decides to cater more to his patreons, which makes sense because they're paying, then yeah it's gonna stay on the femdom side. But like he showed, there's still some vanilla scenes and they are GOOD.
 
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YogSothoth1982

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HirumaYoichi, most likely I will not return to the thread, so thanks for the game and I wish you luck.

I think Dev is doing a good job. I know Dom/Sub isn't for everyone but this is without a doubt the closest dom/sub I've seen on this site to what I would consider a realistic relationship than most of the other games out there. Generally as started by another Generally Dom Sub Devs go WAY off the deep end into cruelty and humiliation to an extreme degree. This often is why I pass on Femdom or Maldome and BDSM that often shows up in these games. It's immersion breaking, unbearable and unbelievable. Meanwhile, Dev here has actual experience in BDSM and Dom/Sub and it shows.
This shit is about Trust and you can see Megan loose interest in MC when she learns there isn't trust and starts to move away from him, however if you're good and obey her she rewards you, more and more as a Femdom would in reality. Greater Megan is somewhat abusive but arguably it's a very small degree and needed to progress the story. Most people who are into BDSM don't actually know it until it happens and good Doms can tell the difference between, "GET THE FUCK OFF ME YOU CRAZY BITCH!" and "get off me you crazy bitch!" One is clearly enraged and horrified while the other is angry but coming to terms with what's happening. One will never be a Sub while the other is still learning about themselves.

This game does a very good job at capturing a more realistic Dom/Sub relationship than what most games do. I was able to enjoy it because even though it's forced in the beginning, your relationship turns into something positive. I promise you this. IF someone was to try and ACTUALLY hurt MC, there would be no place on Earth that person could hide from Megan. It's very easy to see how much she cares about him and the dynamic is what makes this game great.

So yes, if your aren't into Dom/Sub and BDSM I can see why this might be unappealing. But if you are this game brings it back on a measurable and believable level. This game is PERFECT if you don't know much about Dom/Sub and BDSM and wanted to learn more about it without getting into the far reaching unbelievable bullshit that comes with most of the genre, then this is the right place to learn. Learn along side the MC and you might just realize that it's not as bad as it seems.

Thanks for reading.
Personally I don't like domination (in any direction), nor soft, nor romantic, nor of any kind. I don't like BDSM either, neither realistic, nor cruel, nor in any way. When I started the game the description said that BDSM and Femdom was something of a few updates. I suppose it was true, but I have never known it in person. I certainly don't feel like going through Megan's scenes again (to see something I'm not going to enjoy I go to another game). That now there are vanilla scenes or some girl without femdom or BDSM, or that now you can avoid those scenes doesn't really change that I prefer to avoid the game: The scenes with Megan dislike me too much to be able to enjoy the rest of the game.

I suppose everyone has their own tastes, but mine doesn't include practically the entirety of the beginning of the game. So all that remains is to wish you enjoy the game. For my part, I leave it to you and I suppose that I will definitely abandon this thread.
 
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