Mid fifties here and I believe way less in the innocence of those who do that, learned that they often knew what they did especially when so perfectly executed, even if more subconciously.
Oh and open relations were already a thing over here when I was in my teens, just not openly discussed with outsiders.Deb doesn't care about anyone, but herself. If she cared about the MC we would have seen her doing something for him, anything really even a simple gesture, after 5 releases in the game. Can you tell me a single thing she did for him? And I mean something selfless. All she cares about is getting laid, nothing more, nothing less. That's her character. Declaring her love and stabbing in the back at the same time as long as she gets the cock/pussy she wants. She didn't tell the MC anything because it suited her. She had her sextoy's attention all to herself. And as for Marie if the MC knew the truth there was always a chance they divorced and it would be more difficult for her to bang her.
Yeah, I don't blame people for their subconscious, yes a lot do it totally consciously though, and those I blame heavily, hell, I stay away from the ones that do it unconsciously, but that doesn't change the fact that they don't control their subconscious.Mid fifties here and I believe way less in the innocence of those who do that, learned that they often knew what they did especially when so perfectly executed, even if more subconciously.
Well that is somewhat debatable in the end especially if they have a long trend of it, remember some of them I have known for 50 years and yeah you better stay away from them.
The Ex though if she turns up alive after all I am pretty sure it was both consciously and planned.
Oh, so in no moment she actually ordered her brother to go talk to his daughter because he was being too dumb to figure stuff out? in no moment she actually invited him to join her with the maid because she knew that he wouldn't take the first step? In no moment she actually talked to her niece to try and reconcile them? Or have I just imagined these moments in the game?
Oh, if she is alive it is, and probably no explanation would be good enough.Well that is somewhat debatable in the end especially if they have a long trend of it, remember some of them I have known for 50 years and yeah you better stay away from them.
Well even if she is not, emotionally abusing and disfiguring her daughter in that way, because she could not handle a quetion that was coming due to her actions and then keeping it up when you see your daughter mentally breaking down further and further over it over the years is unforgivable and purely a choice of both the Mom and also Deb since she did nothing to stop it.
You mean before or after she was groping Milly? And yeah, it was really selfless of her, when she realised that they needed a cock after she fingerfucked Julia and invited him too... She wanted a threesome, she wasn't trying to get the MC laid! Of course that wasn't really an option, was it? She wants them reconciled for the same reason she wanted him with Marie. So she can bang both of them. Everything you mentioned ended up with her groping or fucking someone. All she wants is a family to fuck. Not a single selfless act. She doesn't care about the MC and for one more time I'll use the "don't mess with Milly" example, with her response being lying naked in her bed.
If we are going like that, there is no such thing as a selfless act anyway, we only do things for ourselves for how it will make us feel, humans are not selfless, and either way, are we playing the same game? the same game where when the Mc asked her not to fool around with Milly she listened even though she wanted? Also, the same shit can be said about the MC he doesn't want a relationship with his daughter because it would be best for her, he wants because it would be best for him, he went to protect her so he wouldn't feel guilty, he is trying to have a relationship with her because it feels good for him, the fact that is good for her is secondary.
Well after what her Mom and Aunt did to her it will actually be doubtful if having a relation with him will be good. Remember the only way he can really win her trust again will be if she learns two of the other most important people in her life have lied to her all those years about him and that above the traumas she already has ....... and that trust in him would in reality take years to regrow if Milly is still able to do that. She was hurt badly.
she didn't leave because of the affair though, she left because the Mc was obsessed with something that almost killed him and got him imprisoned, you are co-relating two separate things, now should they have been open about the cheating? Yes, all three of them should, should she have lied to her daughter? No, she shouldn't, was this the best solution? Hell no, but it was a solution that mirrored what the Mc did, hiding stuff at least, in no moment i said that either Deb or the Ex were right, or didn't fuck up, but so did the MC.
In my playthrough she knows, the Mc gave her the confession letter from her mother. but yeah, you are right, as i said though it is the Mc being selfish, it being good for her is secondary, but that is just how humans work.
Sleeping with her naked the same night and sending the MC a picture is her listening to him??? What would the alternative be? Banging her in front of him with a strapon? She have groped her multiple times, she just hasn't fucked her yet, but I'm sure it's just a matter of time. I don't mean selfless like you won't feel good about it, but not getting a physical reward if you want. If she wanted her brother to be happy and that made her feel good, I'd agree, but like I said everything she "did" for her brother ended up with her groping or banging someone. I didn't say that Deb getting laid has anything to do with the father-daughter relationship. What I'm saying is that she wants them in good terms because it would be easier for her to bang them both.
Well I do not believe in the theory that she did what she did to protect MC and out of love. It is what she claimed, but like I said it just does not feel right and I strongly suspect she was one of the reasons why MC ended up in jail in the first place.
Yes the mc fucked up, but he didn't hide anything emotional. He hid a conspiracy that could get them hurt or killed. They hid other things of a personal nature. That would have hurt him a little emotionally at first but he would probably have accepted his sis and ex in a relationship. They also hid the fact that his family knew how to get in touch with each other but didn't say anything.
Well if her life is really in danger and he wants to be able to be close enough to protect her he has no choice, but yeah it will not help Milly, especially in the short term. Maybe in the long run with help of a very good specialized therapist.
That doesn't make sense, since her focus is him if he left so would she, but besides that, she was the one being groped, and she was angry with him that is why she sent the photo, she was wanting to get a reaction out of him, but she didn't make any advances. Basically what you are telling me is "I'm angry because the hot bisexual character gets the pussy I want" story wise everything fits, there is no plot role, if you don't like that this is gonna be a harem where all the girls throw themselves at the Mc's dick and don't have personalities, then I don't know what to say, because they are throwing themselves at his dick, but she want some pussy too, and more importantly they are acting more human then most characters in a VN which is what makes this one so good.
