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Getting through the first episode is a slog. Unfunny jokes, weak netorare, hamfisted lessons about choices and quite possibly the most obnoxious side character (Mark) in VN history. Someone who's further along in this game, please tell me this actually gets better.
Personaly I like how the VN takes it pace, ep 1 all the shit happens at once, like how in real sometimes all shit happens at once. Ep 2 he finaly sees the better that moving on and take things in own hands work better then letting you down, Ep 3 seems more of a mix where bad still try to get you back down, but you have more support as some girls now know that you not so bad. About Mark, he can be a dork, but god he is the best friend one can wish for, he doesn't ask for anything and still support the MC in anyway in his own idiot way.
 

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From the changelog:

Here is Part 1 of Episode 3, which has been broken into two halves. Don't worry- while there may be some unresolved story, Part 1 is a sizeable update and not meant to leave you on a large cliffhanger. Here's what else you can expect:
26k+ words, 780+ images (so far...)


So there is more to come of this chapter. I expect things will really ramp up after baseball and school are done. The summer will be nuts (fingers crossed).
I mean yeah I get that but it's unusual to have an update of that size and not have a certain amount of sexual content.

And I know about the split but would've preferred if it at least some sort of action with either Ashley or Ami/Lilith. Too bad though. Sucks to wait. Would've been nicer to see, rather than Sierra's mind games as of now. I know gives the story and MC more conflict but still something I would've had preferred for now.
 

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Mark is getting on my nerves he makes all these sexual comments on the girls and then hes like dont tell Jess this dont tell Jess that she will skin me alive if hes that "afraid of" of her doing that then why is he dating her if he was "free" he wouldnt have to worry about upsetting Jess
 

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Just chiming in to say that this game is great. Keep it up!

Only constructive feedback I have is that the transition from Emily to Eva in chapter 3 was jarring. One moment MC is walking with Emily having a fairly emotional conversation, and then MC stops to observe 'oh there's Eva Imma talk to her instead cya'. And the Eva scene wasn't even significant - it could have been put in anywhere without disrupting the narrative flow. Also, a bit top much re-exposition for my taste (i.e., a bunch of stuff happens, then we have to sit through a recounting as MC tells whomever - e.g., Mark, Carla, etc., what just happened). Oh, and there are 2-3 lines where MC's name defaults to Jay mistakenly.
 

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I mean yeah I get that but it's unusual to have an update of that size and not have a certain amount of sexual content.

And I know about the split but would've preferred if it at least some sort of action with either Ashley or Ami/Lilith. Too bad though. Sucks to wait. Would've been nicer to see, rather than Sierra's mind games as of now. I know gives the story and MC more conflict but still something I would've had preferred for now.
I would prefer ANYTHING other than the bullshit with Sierra LOL. She doesn't deserve anymore screen time.
What I would like to see the most would be solving the conflict between MC and Kayla. The little sister has some serious issue imo.
 

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I would prefer ANYTHING other than the bullshit with Sierra LOL. She doesn't deserve anymore screen time.
What I would like to see the most would be solving the conflict between MC and Kayla. The little sister has some serious issue imo.
If you followed the story, then you will understand her behaviour, some fucked up dudes took a pic of her knickers and spread it around through her brother's phone and her boyfriend comfirmed it on top. Kayla although she looks hot as fuck, is still a decent girl who wanted to reserve her for the right guy and such image damage can hurt pretty bad, I can understand her frustration, if I was the MC i would done nothing but try to be caring and understanding to her and not snap back at her, eventualy she would learned the truth.
 

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If you followed the story, then you will understand her behaviour, some fucked up dudes took a pic of her knickers and spread it around through her brother's phone and her boyfriend comfirmed it on top. Kayla although she looks hot as fuck, is still a decent girl who wanted to reserve her for the right guy and such image damage can hurt pretty bad, I can understand her frustration, if I was the MC i would done nothing but try to be caring and understanding to her and not snap back at her, eventualy she would learned the truth.
I know, but for me it just doesn't justify her behavior of being a stupid brat. That's why I prefer the second part of chapter 3 would solve what happened between them before bringing in more present drama.
It's saddening the whole world doesn't believe anything MC said except of his parents. I'm more understanding for MC snapping at her behavior though. It's at his pov that he did nothing wrong and his sister refused to believe him hurts him even more.
 

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I just finished playing this. . And although at first I didn't like it because of the Sierra issue, the truth is that I have changed my mind. It's refreshing to see friendly relationships emerge. and how they develop. There isn't much sex for now but how the characters interact and how they have their well-defined personalities has won me over. Thanks dev and keep doing what you are doing
 
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If you followed the story, then you will understand her behaviour, some fucked up dudes took a pic of her knickers and spread it around through her brother's phone and her boyfriend comfirmed it on top. Kayla although she looks hot as fuck, is still a decent girl who wanted to reserve her for the right guy and such image damage can hurt pretty bad, I can understand her frustration, if I was the MC i would done nothing but try to be caring and understanding to her and not snap back at her, eventualy she would learned the truth.
Kayla seemed at odds with MC before those events went down, and never even considered hearing his side of events. Which makes her very human, with tunnel vision and judging people without being able to get past her own biases. But a shitty thing to do to a sibling, especially a twin.

I am curious how she will be convinced of the truth. Probably Emily with Jess' support. Though it'll be interesting to see how that happens.

Kayla is going to have a huge blow to her ego and reality if she finally believes MC was innocent, and then has to wrestle with her behaviour over all those years. I think the Dev can do a good job of it though. My guess is somewhere in those stages of grief for that image of the world and herself that existed before being shattered the game will earn it's incest tag. And there'll be a few push/pull cycles before things calm down.
 

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I'm done playing this. And although at first I didn't like it because of the Sierra issue, the truth is that I have changed my mind. It's refreshing to see friendly relationships emerge. and how they develop. There isn't much sex for now but how the characters interact and how they have their well-defined personalities has won me over. Thanks dev and keep doing what you are doing
Oh man, when I read "I'm done playing this" it sounded like you were about to complain and say everything you hated, before 'announcing your departure like it was an airport.' Glad I kept reading.
 
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I know, but for me it just doesn't justify her behavior of being a stupid brat. That's why I prefer the second part of chapter 3 would solve what happened between them before bringing in more present drama.
It's saddening the whole world doesn't believe anything MC said except of his parents. I'm more understanding for MC snapping at her behavior though. It's at his pov that he did nothing wrong and his sister refused to believe him hurts him even more.
Kayla's behaviour was a key point in my game review. It's good it was already adressed so we know why the two of them fight. We've seen them tolerate each other for an evening.
With Ashley acting as a catalyst this has already taken a good direction.

While Sierra is definetily a mean piece of shit it's good to see her this way. First, it give the story more weight and another character to hate. Two, we can play her for good. We already insulted her in front of Emily, so the next time she tries to play her game, we can simply mention the fact she had sex with those three black guys after dumping us via text. I just would've wished if the MC would've had told his parents in a set way that they aren't together and that she's annoying him, rather than deflecting it.
 
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Kayla's behaviour was a key point in my game review. It's good it was already adressed so we know why the two of them fight. We've seen them tolerate each other for an evening.
With Ashley acting as a catalyst this has already taken a good direction.

While Sierra is definetily a mean piece of shit it's good to see her this way. First, it give the story more weight and another character to hate. Two, we can play her for good. We already insulted her in front of Emily, so the next time she tries to play her game, we can simply mention the fact she had sex with those three black guys after dumping us via text. I just would've wished if the MC would've had told his parents in a set way that they aren't together and that she's annoying him, rather than deflecting it.
Yeah, MC should hopefully get the chance to clearly set Sierra boundaries soon and hard. That waffling is understandable (2 year relationships, especially at that age, can leave a lot of hooks inside and buttons to be pressed), but the MC has been building to get out from under her thumb.

(Oh, and FYI, pretty sure not all 3 guys were black. I deleted after finishing playing, so not about to download to check, but I'm confident at least one was white.)
 
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Yeah, MC should hopefully get the chance to clearly set Sierra boundaries soon and hard. That waffling is understandable (2 year relationships, especially at that age, can leave a lot of hooks inside and buttons to be pressed), but the MC has been building to get out from under her thumb.

(Oh, and FYI, pretty sure not all 3 guys were black. I deleted after finishing playing, so not about to download to check, but I'm confident at least one was white.)
Well the Birthday of Sierra was 1 black guy and 2 caucasian, but then again I don't care about her, she is to manipulative and controling to have any healthy relation with that bitch.

Also to be honest yea I been in 2 and 3 year relations that ended like that too when after they controled me more with making me avoid other girls and in end they cheated on me, I know it hard to forget when break up then after spending so many years. But the funny part is it also made me stronger to manipulation and it them who came back to me to beg me to take them back that I finaly could say to them screw you, you cheated on me and wanted taste other meat, so live now with your choices.
 

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Well the Birthday of Sierra was 1 black guy and 2 caucasian, but then again I don't care about her, she is to manipulative and controling to have any healthy relation with that bitch.

Also to be honest yea I been in 2 and 3 year relations that ended like that too when after they controled me more with making me avoid other girls and in end they cheated on me, I know it hard to forget when break up then after spending so many years. But the funny part is it also made me stronger to manipulation and it them who came back to me to beg me to take them back that I finaly could say to them screw you, you cheated on me and wanted taste other meat, so live now with your choices.
Just looked through the game and you're right.
I've seen too much porn lol
 
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Following the Ep3 release a couple days ago, there's some things I wanted to follow up on. It's been a hectic week, which included a 36-hour marathon Wed/Thu in front of my PC with only a 3-hour nap to get last minute work done. I've since taken the last two days to try to unwind a little bit before sitting down to write my thoughts.
There are many parts of this release I'm very happy with. Of the good things, I'm mostly proud of how much better the renders look to me, most notably the characters' skins.
Following the Ep2 release, Kentyrr (artist for Chasing Sunsets), had taken an interest in TaH and (unintentionally?) got me motivated to improve this aspect. He was kind enough to discuss and share a lot during this time, and I put in the effort learning finer details. This was a very big step in my development journey, so if you're a fan of the direction TaH visuals have gone, be sure to tell him your appreciation if you ever get the chance.

Here's an example of the leap in quality I was able to make.
To address some other thoughts that have come up... TaH is meant to be a story-driven game that also happens to include the MC's romantic and sexual situations. I've always had a target in mind about how much of that content will be included per episode as I know a majority of players anticipate it. I've even stated once before that the frequency will likely increase as relationships & flings gain momentum.
The first half of Ep3 was a lot of setup, whereas the second half will see more payoffs from this. If this update seemed like the sex/story ratio was low, it's because of this. Hopefully it averages out.
I also intended to have animations for the dorm room content, but there were issues with what I had rendered and no time to redo it before the deadline. I had a choice... Fix it and delay the game another week, or work with what I could.
Which bridges into the next topic... There are a few things that I was not able to do that I wanted in Part 1, and I plan on fixing them in the next update that completes the episode. It's something I'll probably talk about later on, but this will almost certainly mean updating those lewd scenes to my original vision with animations.
And lastly, to address what Bonus extended scenes are. These will fall under two categories. 1) It's a real event that you get to witness but the MC doesn't. Or 2) An NPC is describing an event (either accurately, embellished, or incorrect) to someone else and you get to witness their telling of it. Sometimes it's clear which it is, sometimes there's some ambiguity.
Why do these bonus scenes exist anyway? The TaH game design is following the MC exclusively. As a player you never see events that he's not part of or around, and he's the only character you get to see the thoughts of.
Since I use Patreon as a way to get compensation for my work, I felt obligated to offer higher tiers something extra. Bonus scenes were created later with that purpose: additional content for those who wished to be even more generous financially. I never intended to "strip down" the game; this was me trying to add on top of it.

Final thoughts... Occasionally it's hard to give direct answers to questions because it can spoil future content and plans. And sometimes I give poorly worded replies out of mental fatigue or just being sloppy. Developing this game is not easy; it's very taxing with my time and financially, but I do try my best.
So as I take one more day off from development before starting the grind again, I hope this latest release gave some hope and anticipation for what comes next. Thank you all for supporting me, the encouragement and kind words. The road ahead is not short, but I intend to make it worth it.
-ckr
(Too tired to proofread. I hope it all makes sense!)
 

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One of the better games on this site, some of the characters are annoying at first but as the game goes on and they get more flushed out they kinda grow on you. The overall stories great so far but here's hoping for a few extra erotic scenes even if they aren't necessarily with the mc and involve other couples.
 

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Anyone know whether there will be an Ami path separate from the Lilith route (i.e., sans RP / dom kink)? If not, I may replay to optimize points for other LI or confidence. Also, anyone think confidence will need to be a certain value to trigger a harem path?
 
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