VN Ren'Py Abandoned Underdog [v1.0] [OAsmodeus70]

[Lou111]

I don't really understand some of y'all. First, everyone has a right to post in whatever thread they like. I completely agree with that.

But some of you are so vehemently anti-NTR in almost every post I see from y'all that I cannot for the life of me understand why you'd come into a thread that is properly tagged for NTR and start commenting.

You KNOW this game isn't going to be your cup of tea. Why do you feel the need to post "I don't like this and I'm leaving!"

It is truly mindboggling.

Don't let it get under your skin. (I'm not assuming that you have already.)
Truth is, they have dozens of reasons for doing so and explaining them wont fit here would and it would get deleted anyway.

I used get so frustrated with those kinds of posts. The dudes who pop in and say "Not for me" are the same as the dudes who say "NTR Downloading", they're just putting their +1/-1 for the dev to consider other options or to encourage the developer.

Anti-NTR people tend to be more outspoken where NTR fans are more chill, so it seems pretty one-sided most of the time. NTR is so good because it's so wrong. Try to look at NTR-haters as people who are preserving and defending a culture, if everyone was ok with NTR then we'd have to go find something more fucked up to get off to.

 

[Jekzue]

The graphics are nice and the description of the story sounds interesting, but so far its less of a "go from loser to harem king" and more of a "prevent ntr" game. I don't mind the NTR (though I don't like it), but I find it extremely weird that the old man can go from 0 to sex in a matter of minutes and the girls just trust everything he does (its like hentai protagonist levels of plot armor). Even on the rape scenes, no one screams or anything despite being in a house full of people. Just seems abnormal and unrealistic on way too many levels, a housekeeper is not family and would not be treated as one.

Lastly, I don't see the point in making 3 options if two of them leads to the same result and none of them leads to the main character getting any respect. Like for example

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TLDR: In this version (1.0) at least, I see little to no aspects of Hiro becoming less of a loser nor any girls becoming slightly closer to a sex slave to the MC. The old man has hentai protag levels of sex plot armor, and some choices are meaningless.

 

[v1900]

I totally understand your point. I am also a consumer that prefers both stuff. Sometimes, I play games that were created especially for Harem's route, and sometimes I prefer the other ones. So, I thought it would be nice if I can mix it! Even though what I am focusing on now seemed to be a corruption route. I don't want to talk about NTR now because I am not sure about that word. However, I can confidently say that Hiro isn't a cuckold, at least for now, and will never be forced to. He didn't allow bad situations to happen. He didn't know it, did he? In this version, he is just an idiot that is going to lost everything if he choose the wrong way or the right way for someone. What I really did is to show players what is going to be if they choose those choices. According to many comments, I realize that those choices aren't actually supportive for Hiro. I will be working on it now. Thank you so much for your comments.

I have read the thread and came to the conclusion that what is in this first version is not for me. That being said I am intrigued by the premise of playing as a psycho so I have some questions I would be grateful if you can answer.

• Is it correct to assume that this will not have romance for the harem path?

I am assuming that we will treat the women in our harem as sex slaves and nothing more.​

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• What is the main focus of your story, the alpha MC and corruption path or the beta MC and NTR?

I think it would be beneficial to be specific about that an have it explained along the overview or under developer notes. Tell your audience if you will be alternating the updates (update 1 is NTR, next update is alpha) or if the first third of the story is NTR.​

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• Will violence be a main aspect of this VN?

If so, it would be refreshing because we often play as passive idiots.​

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Good luck with your project. I might try it after some updates depending on the direction it takes.

 

[Liam the Handyman]

Yet to play but with the ongoing war, i would say this reminds me of culture shock? Its always more heavy on the NTR and with slow updates on "Alpha"... Alpha meaning you get some handjobs and blowjobs while NTR means every LI is banging anything with 2 legs...

 

[v1900]

Dont mind me ya'll Im just sitting here eating my popcorn while watching some fireworks. Seems this is the thread of the day..... Just glad ya all can't see each other or let weapons be allowed. Just face it ya'll its another dev promising avoidable content that has already proven untrue. If it wasnt true the girls would not be starting out like the town bicycles before the mc even stands a chance.

Mate it is (1) [VN] - [Ren'Py] Reload [Ep. 3 Elite] [LionGames] | F95zone allover again. The same shit that the dev tried to pull over our eyes. Be right back I am going to get some snack, save me a spot.

 

[SeveredRealms]

I totally understand your point. I am also a consumer that prefers both stuff. Sometimes, I play games that were created especially for Harem's route, and sometimes I prefer the other ones. So, I thought it would be nice if I can mix it! Even though what I am focusing on now seemed to be a corruption route. I don't want to talk about NTR now because I am not sure about that word. However, I can confidently say that Hiro isn't a cuckold, at least for now, and will never be forced to. He didn't allow bad situations to happen. He didn't know it, did he? In this version, he is just an idiot that is going to lost everything if he choose the wrong way or the right way for someone. What I really did is to show players what is going to be if they choose those choices. According to many comments, I realize that those choices aren't actually supportive for Hiro. I will be working on it now. Thank you so much for your comments.

Ok now read what you wrote in the sections I highlighted. Now go back and read your own script. You claim its all avoidable then show everyone it is not. You clearly do not understand what NTR entails or how until now people react to it. Maybe you need to go read up on the meanings of NTR and read posts from other games to see what it does and how people react. If it was truly avoidable those scenes of the girls being ridden like the town bicycle would be 100% avoidable and the player not forced to deal with them. You claim you cant figure out ow to write a proper harem route? Yet you claim to have played harem games. How many of those harem games had the girls fucking other guys?
You also in another post claim you know nothing about renpy so you have a very steep learning curve if you intend on making a double route game with added corruption. I wish you luck with that. I do believe you know exactly what game you are creating and it has nothing to do with a proper harem route but a full on NTR game instead. Stick to one or the other because I have seen other devs claim one thing and then do just what your doing one to many times in the last couple months. Good luck on your ntr game cause the game is starting off unbalanced and at this rate you will have a much smaller audience.

MC brings them a flower today , tonight she gets the flower to caress her pussy while she's getting fucked by the football team and after a few years of gettinig fucked by the whole town she might look at MC and say something along the lines "shit...maybe I should let him smell my pussy...poor cuck" ))
EDIT : I apologize for the snarkiness....or better said my comments, they are still my thoughts and I stand by them but I also apologize for them

No you should not need to apologize the game is starting out just as you say. MC has to fight yet the girls drop their pants for everyone else.

 

[radical686]

I really think a Moderator needs to intervene in this game discussion.

1) relitigating what NTR "is" is relevant for a forum discussion, not a discussion related to the game. Don't kink shame people.
2) Mass murder as an option to get even with the "girlfriends that NTR'd them?" WTF?

This is a game with choices that allow you to avoid NTR. The only people that would likely choose the NTR path are people that are into NTR . . . if the Dev gives these people what they want . . . that will include incels that are all about murdering people b/c THEY allowed the characters to choose someone else. And this is a suggestion made less than a week after a self-identified Incel engaged in mass murder in the UK. It was dark enough to include suicide, but mass-murder fantasies??

 

[BTLD]

I really think a Moderator needs to intervene in this game discussion.

1) relitigating what NTR "is" is relevant for a forum discussion, not a discussion related to the game. Don't kink shame people.
2) Mass murder as an option to get even with the "girlfriends that NTR'd them?" WTF?

This is a game with choices that allow you to avoid NTR. The only people that would likely choose the NTR path are people that are into NTR . . . if the Dev gives these people what they want . . . that will include incels that are all about murdering people b/c THEY allowed the characters to choose someone else. And this is a suggestion made less than a week after a self-identified Incel engaged in mass murder in the UK. It was dark enough to include suicide, but mass-murder fantasies??

don't lump that psycho with the rest of the commentators
that dude has some screws loose...

 

[BTLD]

Ok now read what you wrote in the sections I highlighted. Now go back and read your own script. You claim its all avoidable then show everyone it is not. If it was truly avoidable those scenes of the girls being ridden like the town bicycle would be 100% avoidable and the player not forced to deal with them. You claim you cant figure out ow to write a proper harem route? Yet you claim to have played harem games. How many of those harem games had the girls fucking other guys?
You also in another post claim you know nothing about renpy so you have a very steep learning curve if you intend on making a double route game with added corruption. I wish you luck with that. I do believe you know exactly what game you are creating and it has nothing to do with a proper harem route but a full on NTR game instead. Stick to one or the other because I have seen other devs claim one thing and then do just what your doing one to many times in the last couple months. Good luck on your ntr game cause the game is starting off unbalanced and at this rate you will have a much smaller audience.



No you should not need to apologize the game is starting out just as you say. MC has to fight yet the girls drop their pants for everyone else.

well said
110% agree with everything you said.

Mate it is (1) [VN] - [Ren'Py] Reload [Ep. 3 Elite] [LionGames] | F95zone allover again. The same shit that the dev tried to pull over our eyes. Be right back I am going to get some snack, save me a spot.

right,...I remember that .... person who likes to call himself/herself a dev.....
wacky stuff he/she was spouting ))

 

[v1900]

so true...every little thing you said so true.
but then ... we need the challenge to win back the town bicycles...
MC brings them a flower today , tonight she gets the flower to caress her pussy while she's getting fucked by the football team and after a few years of gettinig fucked by the whole town she might look at MC and say something along the lines "shit...maybe I should let him smell my pussy...poor cuck" ))
EDIT : I apologize for the snarkiness....or better said my comments, they are still my thoughts and I stand by them but I also apologize for them

Man, it's fucked up right?

 

[BTLD]

Man it's fucked up right?
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only aids you think? )

 

[Liam the Handyman]

Guys, to be fair, he did put up the NTR tag.. plus the game is new... so he might have just started with the NTR path first and slowly add in the other options...

 

[radical686]

don't lump that psycho with the rest of the commentators
that dude has some screws loose...

I wasn't suggesting they delete the entire thread or all of the comments. I wasn't lumping anyone together. I was merely pointing out problematic comments that fit into two categories. It's in the thread rules that you don't argue kinks in a game discussion. I'm pretty sure NTR fans aren't interested in people relitigating their kink.

 

[punisher2099]

Guys, to be far, he did put up the NTR tag.. plus the game is new... so he might have just started with the NTR path first and slowly add in the other options...

Several years later...

 

[OAsmodeus7O]

I have read the thread and came to the conclusion that what is in this first version is not for me. That being said I am intrigued by the premise of playing as a psycho so I have some questions I would be grateful if you can answer.

• Is it correct to assume that this will not have romance for the harem path?

I am assuming that we will treat the women in our harem as sex slaves and nothing more.​

​

• What is the main focus of your story, the alpha MC and corruption path or the beta MC and NTR?

I think it would be beneficial to be specific about that an have it explained along the overview or under developer notes. Tell your audience if you will be alternating the updates (update 1 is NTR, next update is alpha) or if the first third of the story is NTR.​

• Will violence be a main aspect of this VN?

If so, it would be refreshing because we often play as passive idiots.​

Good luck with your project. I might try it after some updates depending of the direction it takes.

Thank you so much for your comment. I really appreciate it. I will try my best to answer the questions.

- If 'this' referred to this version: Yes, that's correct. If 'this' means a plan of mine to develop the game: No.

- This question is pretty difficult for me to answer it effectively. This is my first time doing something like this. Well, what I'm thinking is that, in the end, if Hiro makes the right choices, he will be a big man of the house, surrounded by beautiful females, and there will be a lot of animations. On the other hand, making inappropriate choices will lead him to bad situations.

P.S. This plan can reasonably be changed.

- Hmm...what do you think? In order to do that, I will surely be cursed by some people.

 

[Liam the Handyman]

OAsmodeus7O aside from trying to turn Hiro to Hero, is the story premise such that all the cuckening had already taken place and Hiro is like slowly recovering from it/spiralling deeper? or its like its a journey where Hiro will always have a choice between Non-NTR and NTR and the backstory starts off on a clean slate per se (no pre-NTR)?

The narrtive at the start seems to be more on the former i guess...

 

[gomesa]

why not do the same thing the other guy did i don't have to b the good guy in this game

 

[OAsmodeus7O]

Ok now read what you wrote in the sections I highlighted. Now go back and read your own script. You claim its all avoidable then show everyone it is not. You clearly do not understand what NTR entails or how until now people react to it. Maybe you need to go read up on the meanings of NTR and read posts from other games to see what it does and how people react. If it was truly avoidable those scenes of the girls being ridden like the town bicycle would be 100% avoidable and the player not forced to deal with them. You claim you cant figure out ow to write a proper harem route? Yet you claim to have played harem games. How many of those harem games had the girls fucking other guys?
You also in another post claim you know nothing about renpy so you have a very steep learning curve if you intend on making a double route game with added corruption. I wish you luck with that. I do believe you know exactly what game you are creating and it has nothing to do with a proper harem route but a full on NTR game instead. Stick to one or the other because I have seen other devs claim one thing and then do just what your doing one to many times in the last couple months. Good luck on your ntr game cause the game is starting off unbalanced and at this rate you will have a much smaller audience.



No you should not need to apologize the game is starting out just as you say. MC has to fight yet the girls drop their pants for everyone else.

First and foremost, I did say in the game that some events(scenes) are avoidable, but not all of them. I am not really sure what the 'scenes of the girls being ridden like the town bicycle' are. But in this version, you can keep female characters from being raped. 'How many of those harem games had the girls fucking other guys?' Hmm... I haven't played something like that yet. So, I am trying to create one. To be honest, you can call the type of my game whatever you wish. This is just the first version. Things can be changed And I am totally fine with a small group of people. As I previously stated, I have a story to tell and would want to share it. If my visual novel does not meet your needs, you are free to ignore it.

 

[Liam the Handyman]

5 mins into the game... i guess the real MC is Happosai

 

[BTLD]

First and foremost, I did say in the game that some events(scenes) are avoidable, but not all of them. I am not really sure what the 'scenes of the girls being ridden like the town bicycle' are. But in this version, you can keep female characters from being raped. 'How many of those harem games had the girls fucking other guys?' Hmm... I haven't played something like that yet. So, I am trying to create one. To be honest, you can call the type of my game whatever you wish. This is just the first version. Things can be changed And I am totally fine with a small group of people. As I previously stated, I have a story to tell and would want to share it. If my visual novel does not meet your needs, you are free to ignore it.

so you're creating a "harem" with town bycicles...
so the NTR happens while MC tries to create a "harem"
do I understand that correctly?