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Moanie

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There are so many options, but is there an option to radicalize Hiro, ... and set a terrorist attack? For example, you could make and detonate a bomb, or a mass shooting.
Is the terrorist attack optional?

(As this thread exploded, i guess I will check this out).
 

v1900

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I really think a Moderator needs to intervene in this game discussion.

1) relitigating what NTR "is" is relevant for a forum discussion, not a discussion related to the game. Don't kink shame people.
2) Mass murder as an option to get even with the "girlfriends that NTR'd them?" WTF?

This is a game with choices that allow you to avoid NTR. The only people that would likely choose the NTR path are people that are into NTR . . . if the Dev gives these people what they want . . . that will include incels that are all about murdering people b/c THEY allowed the characters to choose someone else. And this is a suggestion made less than a week after a self-identified Incel engaged in mass murder in the UK. It was dark enough to include suicide, but mass-murder fantasies??
Thank you so much for your comment. I really appreciate it. I will try my best to answer the questions.

- If 'this' referred to this version: Yes, that's correct. If 'this' means a plan of mine to develop the game: No.

- This question is pretty difficult for me to answer it effectively. This is my first time doing something like this. Well, what I'm thinking is that, in the end, if Hiro makes the right choices, he will be a big man of the house, surrounded by beautiful females, and there will be a lot of animations. On the other hand, making inappropriate choices will lead him to bad situations.

P.S. This plan can reasonably be changed. :giggle:

- Hmm...what do you think? In order to do that, I will surely be cursed by some people. :BootyTime::BootyTime::BootyTime:
I think you should start in the second update and no later than the third with the first mass-murder. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Jokes aside, you need to make it possible for the player to actually prevent the old man from touching your LIs from the start if at some point there will be romance. The other option is to keep what you have in this first release and just use those characters as sex slaves when you eliminate the old man.

While you might be thinking of the harem as the historic "haram" in which the women were pretty much sex slaves. In the VN and erotic literature community it is generally understood as a romance with multiple women (the women being fully aware of it). While I would say that either approach is valid, it is important that you make it clear to the readers what is your intention.

If you tell your story as a "haram" while it will technically be a harem, it will be understood by most as just NTR. That is because you are just watching your loved ones getting fucked (like in the first release) and by the time you get them to your "haram" the player will just feel like they are tainted flesh to fuck and discard.

As an example. While I dislike NTR, I have played NTR games (they are good smut) because some developers warn you from the beginning and you kind of prepare yourself to not get attached to the characters.

As you already said, you are doing this as a hobby. It is best that you are upfront and honest as to what you want to do with your story. This will lessen the shitposting in your thread, it will make yours and the reader time more enjoyable and you will feel good about your hobby.
 

OAsmodeus7O

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The graphics are nice and the description of the story sounds interesting, but so far its less of a "go from loser to harem king" and more of a "prevent ntr" game. I don't mind the NTR (though I don't like it), but I find it extremely weird that the old man can go from 0 to sex in a matter of minutes and the girls just trust everything he does (its like hentai protagonist levels of plot armor). Even on the rape scenes, no one screams or anything despite being in a house full of people. Just seems abnormal and unrealistic on way too many levels, a housekeeper is not family and would not be treated as one.

Lastly, I don't see the point in making 3 options if two of them leads to the same result and none of them leads to the main character getting any respect. Like for example
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TLDR: In this version (1.0) at least, I see little to no aspects of Hiro becoming less of a loser nor any girls becoming slightly closer to a sex slave to the MC. The old man has hentai protag levels of sex plot armor, and some choices are meaningless.
Hmm.. That's right. Some parts about the servant didn't make any sense and some of Hiro's was ignored that's why it's less of a "go from loser to harem king" and more of a "prevent NTR" game. Actually, I am planning to do the 'go from loser to harem' king" part in the next update. I admit that this first version relied too heavily on the "prevent NTR". Thank you so much for your comments. I really appreciate it. I will be working on it. Please do not hesitate to give more suggestions. I would be grateful.
 
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OAsmodeus7O

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I think you should start in the second update and no later than the third with the first mass-murder. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Jokes aside, you need to make it possible for the player to actually prevent the old man from touching your LIs from the start if at some point there will be romance. The other option is to keep what you have in this first release and just use those characters as sex slaves when you eliminate the old man.

While you might be thinking of the harem as the historic "haram" in which the women were pretty much sex slaves. In the VN and erotic literature community it is generally understood as a romance with multiple women (the women being fully aware of it). While I would say that either approach is valid, it is important that you make it clear to the readers what is your intention.

If you tell your story as a "haram" while it will technically be a harem, it will be understood by most as just NTR. That is because you are just watching your loved ones getting fucked (like in the first release) and by the time you get them to your "haram" the player will just feel like they are tainted flesh to fuck and discard.

As an example. While I dislike NTR, I have played NTR games (they are good smut) because some developers warn you from the beginning and you kind of prepare yourself to not get attached to the characters.

As you already said, you are doing this as a hobby. It is best that you are upfront and honest as to what you want to do with your story. This will lessen the shitposting in your thread, it will make yours and the reader time more enjoyable and you will feel good about your hobby.
Wow! This is one of the good suggestions without cursing. Thank you so much for providing the information. I learned a lot from this. I am sure that this will surely be useful for the next stuff that I am trying to do.
 
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SeveredRealms

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so you're creating a "harem" with town bycicles...
so the NTR happens while MC tries to create a "harem"
do I understand that correctly?
I think its best just to ignore this game. First we have a dev that either has no clue how to write a harem game kinda like another dev that recently created his ntr game claiming it had romance and both these devs are clueless or this guy is plain and simply leading us all on with no intention of being upfront. Claiming the mc will be a "harem king" yet starting off as full on ntr... its as back assward as you can get to start a game off. I guess I should take some cues from this guy and think and write like he does in my own game cause I must be doing it wrong....
 

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I think its best just to ignore this game. First we have a dev that either has no clue how to write a harem game kinda like another dev that recently created his ntr game claiming it had romance and both these devs are clueless or this guy is plain and simply leading us all on with no intention of being upfront. Claiming the mc will be a "harem king" yet starting off as full on ntr... its as back assward as you can get to start a game off. I guess I should take some cues from this guy and think and write like he does in my own game cause I must be doing it wrong....
you might be onto to something.
 
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disimulated

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And we see NTR Lovers such as you begging and crying in threads to add NTR , swinging in the game , even when game dev says in his dev notes or description that the game will not have such content , more than people complaining about NTR in the NTR game .
I'm sure it happens. I may have done that once or twice in the past - by asking or suggesting, never demanding or threatening - but I intentionally don't do that now. Like I said in another post, I don't even look at games with a "harem" tag that don't also have an "ntr" tag anymore.

First and foremost, I want the dev to make the game they want to make. If they happen to make it with corruption or NTR, then I will happily play it. If they ask for feedback or suggestions, I will give it. I would never presume to TELL a dev what to do or DEMAND that they change the game.

Mostly what I do is encourage devs to keep doing what they're doing (corruption + NTR) and ignore the haters.
 
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BTLD

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I'm sure it happens. I may have done that once or twice in the past - by asking or suggesting, never demanding or threatening - but I intentionally don't do that now. Like I said in another post, I don't even look at games with a "harem" tag that don't also have an "ntr" tag anymore.

First and foremost, I want the dev to make the game they want to make. If they happen to make it with corruption or NTR, then I will happily play it. If they ask for feedback or suggestions, I will give it. I would never presume to TELL a dev what to do or DEMAND that they change the game.

Mostly what I do is encourage devs to keep doing what they're doing (corruption + NTR) and ignore the haters.
thats all good and all that but here we have a case of a dev saying one thing and delivering another thing...
that's one of the issues
 

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How many of those harem games had the girls fucking other guys?' Hmm... I haven't played something like that yet. So, I am trying to create on
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If there is another dick that is not harem, I think the most correct thing would be to call it "sharing" or "prostitution", do not take it wrong but at this point I do not know if what you said about playing games with harem is true hahaha

Here by Harem it is understood that the only dick involved is going to be that of Mc (and / or in some cases that of a trap or trans LI :KEK: )

Good Luck Dev I think you will need it
 
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disimulated

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Since the dev said there will be a harem path, I don't have any reasons to say it won't happen, but I don't really find any enjoyment in constantly trying to stop the "bulls", because at some point in the future there might be some sort of payoff.
Isn't that what happens in every RPG game ever made? In Zelda, what happens? The princess gets kidnapped by a big baddie, and then you spend 100 hours grinding experience and level-ups to get the payoff of beating the bad guy and rescuing the princess.

The bad guy starts with the good deal (princess in his palm), but gets dead at the end. The good guy starts off being bruised and finishes by being alive and powerful with a *very* grateful princess at his side.
 

disimulated

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Yeah for the MC to get some, he has to accumulate a fuckton of brownie points with the whore, while your nemesis just has to say "hey your pussy smells nice from over here" and she is dripping wet and ready to go. That is the gimmick for half the NTR games under the sun, the other half doesn't have choices to make and you play as an asshole.
This is a valid point. The NTR has to be somewhat believable to have impact - women that are too easy to lure into NTR are just as uninteresting to me as women who need no convincing to become faithful to a harem owner who by definition has no intention of being faithful to them in return.
 

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First and foremost, I did say in the game that some events(scenes) are avoidable, but not all of them. I am not really sure what the 'scenes of the girls being ridden like the town bicycle' are. But in this version, you can keep female characters from being raped. 'How many of those harem games had the girls fucking other guys?' Hmm... I haven't played something like that yet. So, I am trying to create one. To be honest, you can call the type of my game whatever you wish. This is just the first version. Things can be changed :) And I am totally fine with a small group of people. As I previously stated, I have a story to tell and would want to share it. If my visual novel does not meet your needs, you are free to ignore it.

Thank you for your candid, and truthful response.

I will take your adive.

(Pushes 'Ignore' button)
 
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Isn't that what happens in every RPG game ever made? In Zelda, what happens? The princess gets kidnapped by a big baddie, and then you spend 100 hours grinding experience and level-ups to get the payoff of beating the bad guy and rescuing the princess.

The bad guy starts with the good deal (princess in his palm), but gets dead at the end. The good guy starts off being bruised and finishes by being alive and powerful with a *very* grateful princess at his side.
Well with one big bad exception....... the bad guy isnt fucking the princess...
 

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Isn't that what happens in every RPG game ever made? In Zelda, what happens? The princess gets kidnapped by a big baddie, and then you spend 100 hours grinding experience and level-ups to get the payoff of beating the bad guy and rescuing the princess.

The bad guy starts with the good deal (princess in his palm), but gets dead at the end. The good guy starts off being bruised and finishes by being alive and powerful with a *very* grateful princess at his side.
And in FPS games you're running around killing people, so the comment about mass murdering should be valid too, right? You're into NTR, good for you. Don't try to convince me I should be into it too, comparing apples and oranges. This is an adult VN, not an RPG. Do you see the big VN at the left of the game's title, right before Ren'py? Also if you really want to go through with that nonsensical comparison, I've never played an RPG where the main character does absolutely nothing or just run around with no purpose... That would be the most boring thing ever. Saving the princess is the end goal, but before that, there are quests with rewards. Also in the end you're saving the princess, not the town whore...
 

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Well with one big bad exception....... the bad guy isnt fucking the princess...
And in FPS games you're running around killing people, so the comment about mass murdering should be valid too, right? You're into NTR, good for you. Don't try to convince me I should be into it too, comparing apples and oranges. This is an adult VN, not an RPG. Do you see the big VN at the left of the game's title, right before Ren'py? Also if you really want to go through with that nonsensical comparison, I've never played an RPG where the main character does absolutely nothing or just run around with no purpose... That would be the most boring thing ever. Saving the princess is the end goal, but before that, there are quests with rewards. Also in the end you're saving the princess, not the town whore...
I'm out of likes unfortunatelly...cause both of these statements are on the mark/spot.
well said.
110% agree.
 

OAsmodeus7O

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Okay, guys. I write this just to be clear. This is my first time creating a visual novel and posting it on F95. I can confidently say that this isn't a good first-time experience. I am just a human, there are so many things that I haven't known yet. Honestly, at the end of this game, I was planning to have Hiro as a king that was surrounded by females. However, I do not want to make the way to be king so simple. So, I decided to add some blackmailing and, as you said, NTR stuff.

Please accept my apologies for mentioning that this game includes a 'Harem's route or creating Harem is possible,' which may have caused some of you to be confused. From now on, I will say that in this game if you choose the correct choices, Hiro, our protagonist, will be surrounded by females characters and will have complete control over them as a result of the game. This route can be called whatever you choose.

There will surely be NTR scenes in this game. Even though they are avoidable, I would say that they are not. So, if anyone isn't ready for this unavoidable NTR game and some heart-breaking content or doesn't like it, you can simply ignore it without informing me or other people about what you are going to do.

Thank you so much for your precious time.
 
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