VN Ren'Py Victoria in Big City [v0.55] [Groovers Games]

[Nemesiso]

that's a pretty great collection and this game is surely part of that

Maybe i should explain my opinion better.
I was talking about different subject. matter of women's perspective, not just female protagonist style.

I know there are many Female Protagonist games, tons of them, mostly are beautiful. but even all of them created for men's perspective at the end, by the scenes, by the dialogues, by choosing options...etc.

There are differences between men and women views and what they see in sex.

let me clarify it by examples from Victoria's game:



That is why I liked this game at the beginning.



This is why I could be able to connect with Victoria's game mentally, from the start.
because this game had few shots for women's perspective.



In terms of straight people
you men would like to see curves, we would like to see muscles around us.
you men would like to see breasts, we would like to see hard members.
you men would like to see tempting softness, we would like to see confident roughness.



Men usually would not pay attention to these matters and that's why all the pornography and adult games are built for men's perspective, and that's why many women wouldn't like to see porn because click with them mentally is nearly impossible. most of adult games too.
I didn't see any porn in years myself, because seeing angry men's perspective is useless for me and many women i know, it's just not working that way, they want to show us.

for this matter, you can just find 4 or 5 adult games maybe, or even less erotic novels that could offer women's perspective properly.

I do not expect all adult games and visual novels should be create for women's perspective. don't get me wrong.
but there's solution for that, i think.

Solution:
when developers or creators or producers, make an adult scene, there is 10 shots or 10 angles for that, let 8 or 9 shots of all goes to the men's perspective,
but let 1 or 2 shots at least, considering half of the population, women.

let 98 percent of contents works for men, but please, let 2 percent works for women.

it's not much to ask.

 

[Maviarab]

and that's why many women wouldn't like to see porn because click with them mentally is nearly impossible. most of adult games too.

I was going to counter your very one-sided and very presumptuous comments (preference is not fact)...untuil I came to the one I quoted above...

Which is so hilariously incorrect I struggle to take anything you say seriously.

 

[Greuceanu]

Maybe i should explain my opinion better.
I was talking about different subject. matter of women's perspective, not just female protagonist style.

I know there are many Female Protagonist games, tons of them, mostly are beautiful. but even all of them created for men's perspective at the end, by the scenes, by the dialogues, by choosing options...etc.

There are differences between men and women views and what they see in sex.

let me clarify it by examples from Victoria's game:

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That is why I liked this game at the beginning.

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This is why I could be able to connect with Victoria's game mentally, from the start.
because this game had few shots for women's perspective.

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In terms of straight people
you men would like to see curves, we would like to see muscles around us.
you men would like to see breasts, we would like to see hard members.
you men would like to see tempting softness, we would like to see confident roughness.

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Men usually would not pay attention to these matters and that's why all the pornography and adult games are built for men's perspective, and that's why many women wouldn't like to see porn because click with them mentally is nearly impossible. most of adult games too.
I didn't see any porn in years myself, because seeing angry men's perspective is useless for me and many women i know, it's just not working that way, they want to show us.

for this matter, you can just find 4 or 5 adult games maybe, or even less erotic novels that could offer women's perspective properly.

I do not expect all adult games and visual novels should be create for women's perspective. don't get me wrong.
but there's solution for that, i think.

Solution:
when developers or creators or producers, make an adult scene, there is 10 shots or 10 angles for that, let 8 or 9 shots of all goes to the men's perspective,
but let 1 or 2 shots at least, considering half of the population, women.

let 98 percent of contents works for men, but please, let 2 percent works for women.

it's not much to ask.

i think you bring up some great points about the pov of the cameras and the storylines, men are pretty visual creatures vs women who look at more things at the same time porn for women is sometimes a great inspiration for games but it's hard sell for some men)

i hope more female protag games can help raise that 2% to 50%, also games should show that power of women to decide their story and not jump at the first rando with a huge dick (not something that's actually happening in reality) )

 

[Rodrigo Tannuri]

Missed the game

 

[drakov]

i think you bring up some great points about the pov of the cameras and the storylines, men are pretty visual creatures vs women who look at more things at the same time porn for women is sometimes a great inspiration for games but it's hard sell for some men)

i hope more female protag games can help raise that 2% to 50%, also games should show that power of women to decide their story and not jump at the first rando with a huge dick (not something that's actually happening in reality) )

Salut !!! Esti cumva Roman ?

 

[wildride69]

i think you bring up some great points about the pov of the cameras and the storylines, men are pretty visual creatures vs women who look at more things at the same time porn for women is sometimes a great inspiration for games but it's hard sell for some men)

i hope more female protag games can help raise that 2% to 50%, also games should show that power of women to decide their story and not jump at the first rando with a huge dick (not something that's actually happening in reality) )

As you say "Men are Pretty Visual creatures", I can't speak for all men but I'm fairly certain that the majority of the people viewing VN's and porn games are men and they don't want to see closeups of other men.

It's like watching porn, I usually can care less about the "stunt" cock in the scene (unless there absolutely hideous to be disgusting or wildly funny). If more women played these titles that would improve your odds on getting more angles of the views you want imo.

Victoria is so drop dead gorgeous visually, she is the perfect camera target.

 

[Greuceanu]

As you say "Men are Pretty Visual creatures", I can't speak for all men but I'm fairly certain that the majority of the people viewing VN's and porn games are men and they don't want to see closeups of other men.

It's like watching porn, I usually can care less about the "stunt" cock in the scene (unless there absolutely hideous to be disgusting or wildly funny). If more women played these titles that would improve your odds on getting more angles of the views you want imo.

Victoria is so drop dead gorgeous visually, she is the perfect camera target.

not saying that men aren’t a large user base but surely we could add pov for women as well is that hard to ask?

 

[Greuceanu]

As you say "Men are Pretty Visual creatures", I can't speak for all men but I'm fairly certain that the majority of the people viewing VN's and porn games are men and they don't want to see closeups of other men.

It's like watching porn, I usually can care less about the "stunt" cock in the scene (unless there absolutely hideous to be disgusting or wildly funny). If more women played these titles that would improve your odds on getting more angles of the views you want imo.

Victoria is so drop dead gorgeous visually, she is the perfect camera target.

and victoria is stunning, without a doubt, I love the diversity in the game and it’s been a top game in my eyes for a while

 

[MishelHappiness^_^]

NEW JOB

 

[Rodrigo Tannuri]

NEW JOB
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OMG! She is supreme!

 

[wildride69]

not saying that men aren’t a large user base but surely we could add pov for women as well is that hard to ask?

No not at all imo, but I am not a current developer. You are however, I checked Sofia's Dark Fantasies and I must say "GODDAMN!" You or your team know how to craft some outrageously hot looking renders on par with Victoria. My hats off to you and I wish you nothing but success in your VN. As I just discovered it and fast forwarded my way through to see the renders I notice that they are tailored the same way the renders here are tailored and are mostly focused on the females. Outside of Hobo (see my hideous comment) and Santa (see my wildly funny comment) I honestly have 0 recollection of any other males in the game.

I see it as a cost of Development Time, you take a game like "Fashion Business" (Episode 2 forward as episode 1 is a lesser visual standard). They have the best animated graphics I have ever scene, the camera angles rotate around the action with closeups and long shots it's amazing. They have a big team, when I was thinking of creating my own VN I asked them on Patreon what packages they were using and fuck me in the A they were expensive.

Victoria and Sofia are gorgeous models with amazingly beautiful renders but who has the time and wants to put in the effort to satisfy everyone when at the end of the day most devs may like what they do but it is a business and they want/need to get paid.

I have no issue with any VN's there are some I love. There are others that are not for me. If you are gay, lesbian, Futa, Trans, Furries etc etc by all means they should have games to satisfy there fetishes. Anyway I FF through your VN but I am looking forward to playing through it as it does look super interesting.

Ciao

 

[wildride69]

NEW JOB
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Killing me Here!! How the heck did I miss this on Patreon... What Tier is this from?

 

[Greuceanu]

No not at all imo, but I am not a current developer. You are however, I checked Sofia's Dark Fantasies and I must say "GODDAMN!" You or your team know how to craft some outrageously hot looking renders on par with Victoria. My hats off to you and I wish you nothing but success in your VN. As I just discovered it and fast forwarded my way through to see the renders I notice that they are tailored the same way the renders here are tailored and are mostly focused on the females. Outside of Hobo (see my hideous comment) and Santa (see my wildly funny comment) I honestly have 0 recollection of any other males in the game.

I see it as a cost of Development Time, you take a game like "Fashion Business" (Episode 2 forward as episode 1 is a lesser visual standard). They have the best animated graphics I have ever scene, the camera angles rotate around the action with closeups and long shots it's amazing. They have a big team, when I was thinking of creating my own VN I asked them on Patreon what packages they were using and fuck me in the A they were expensive.

Victoria and Sofia are gorgeous models with amazingly beautiful renders but who has the time and wants to put in the effort to satisfy everyone when at the end of the day most devs may like what they do but it is a business and they want/need to get paid.

I have no issue with any VN's there are some I love. There are others that are not for me. If you are gay, lesbian, Futa, Trans, Furries etc etc by all means they should have games to satisfy there fetishes. Anyway I FF through your CVN but I am looking forward to playing through it as it does look super interesting.

Ciao

hey our game is different and would love to chat more about but not on this thread, yes game development costs a lot and is time consuming

 

[Roerdin]

No big, ugly fat guy as a hated sex partner? Sheesh ... can't be a very big city.

 

[Greuceanu]

here my take on 2 images from this amazing game

started with these 2

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and ended up here

 

[Obranyi]

here my take on 2 images from this amazing game

started with these 2

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MILF Victoria

 

[QuiteQuiet]

I'm playing for the first time, and I thought I would give my initial impressions. For reference, I just finished the sauna scene (the first one, in case there are others).
The graphics are great and well done. The clothing chosen for each scene looks great on the characters and suits their personalities very well. At this point, there are two things I would change:
1. Dialog should appear without needing to click every time the image changes. I get wanting to show off each render, but we have a button for that.
2. The dialog reads very stiff. I'm not sure if English is your first language, so I don't mean to come across as mean, but it needs more work if you want it to come across more naturally.

EDIT: I know there is a review section, but I'm holding off on that until I finish the current version.

 

[Kenthucky18]

Amazing game

 

[Obranyi]

Brief information about the update

Hello,

I wanted to inform you that the update is almost ready. Unfortunately, I didn't manage to finish it in the first half of the month. A few bugs came out during the testing phase that I will have to correct. It is nothing serious, but requiring time. It so happened that I will not be able to work on the game until the end of the week due to a planned surgery. I hope that everything will go well and I will be able to quickly fix the bugs and publish the update as soon as possible.

Thank you all again for your support and understanding.

Greetings

Groover

 

[JBNYC1]

I'm playing for the first time, and I thought I would give my initial impressions. For reference, I just finished the sauna scene (the first one, in case there are others).
The graphics are great and well done. The clothing chosen for each scene looks great on the characters and suits their personalities very well. At this point, there are two things I would change:
1. Dialog should appear without needing to click every time the image changes. I get wanting to show off each render, but we have a button for that.
2. The dialog reads very stiff. I'm not sure if English is your first language, so I don't mean to come across as mean, but it needs more work if you want it to come across more naturally.

EDIT: I know there is a review section, but I'm holding off on that until I finish the current version.

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From my understanding, big improvements are coming, including better dialog. Overall, ViBC is by far one of the hottest AVNs out there. The Dev has done a great job. Definitely looking forward to the next update. Thanks for sharing. Cheers! - JB BYC -