Ren'Py Abandoned Vis [v2.0] [Mad King Games]

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Good renders, but boy, is a boring story that don't have a focus, also there is that thing that is a male mc, but keep showing others story (and sex). Also if we are the mc, there is a lot of times that he was with the wenches and the mc just blank out, so why to say that, just to tell "hey, he is a prince and he fuck's a lot? Look like we don't play literally with the mc, but an entity that see and control all. Don't get me wrong, is not a bad game in any aspect, there is a hell lot of worse games here, but is not great too, the game itself lose focus a lot of time, the story is all over the place, is not a game that you keep playing to see more, and you lose interest fast.

Agree to disagree. I think the story is very focused. It may not be something you like, but there are several storylines all intertwining, so there are points where the scenes shift from one to another to cover multiple events all happening at the same (or roughly the same) time. This is not anything new in storytelling: Star Wars, Marvel stories, Game of Thrones, etc., all do this shifting of perspectives.

In this latest release, for example:

1. We follow the MC as he talks with Liliana
2. Wilfried reveals to the MC what is requested of Morrígan
3. The MC goes to tell Morrígan what Wilfried said
4. We next follow Morrígan and Wilfried to their destination
5. Morrígan clarifies details about the request
6. Morrígan fulfills the request

That's a very linear, logical path to follow; there is a great amount of focus here. The scene change at the very end is meant to be an "in the mean time" shift, so we can see what happens with the MC (and Morgana) while Morrígan is away. I don't see any lack of focus here at all. It's unfortunate that you're losing interest; it sounds like it's just not your style, at least in general. Personally, I'm increasingly invested in the plot and characters.

 

[Jeevant]

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[Medak]

The renders are brutal, the story has great potential, all the girls are bombs 10/10, the other characters have interesting sub plots, all in all it's an awesome game, except for one small thing called the MC.

In the beginning of the story we find out he has lived a sheltered life, doing nothing but chasing women, so he's slow, dim-witted, plainly stupid, has no experience fighting or leading, but after some near death experience he decides to change.
Character progression right, awesome, except there is none.


Chapter 1: There is a problem, mc is clueless, someone else comes up with a plan, saves the mc, mc cries about how he is not a child and that he has to make his own decisions and does absolutely nothing about it.

Chapter 2: Again, there is a problem, mc is clueless again, someone else comes up with a plan again, saves the mc again, mc cries about how he is not a child and that he has to make his own decisions and does absolutely nothing about it again.

Chapter 2: AGAIN, there is a problem, mc is clueless AGAIN, someone else comes up with a plan AGAIN, saves the mc AGAIN, mc cries about how he is not a child and that he has to make his own decisions and does absolutely nothing about it AGAIN.

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Chapter 99: ...

You get my point, all the characters are more fleshed out 3d persons, even the father that's supposed to be a bad useless guy has a more complex personality and story than the MC.
It's like the MC is here only for the sex scenes while he is completely irrelevant to the story, just make Morrigan the main character and be done with it then if you're not planning to rise the MC IQ above 20.

 

[AlexTorch]

Agree to disagree. I think the story is very focused. It may not be something you like, but there are several storylines all intertwining, so there are points where the scenes shift from one to another to cover multiple events all happening at the same (or roughly the same) time. This is not anything new in storytelling: Star Wars, Marvel stories, Game of Thrones, etc., all do this shifting of perspectives.

In this latest release, for example:

1. We follow the MC as he talks with Liliana
2. Wilfried reveals to the MC what is requested of Morrígan
3. The MC goes to tell Morrígan what Wilfried said
4. We next follow Morrígan and Wilfried to their destination
5. Morrígan clarifies details about the request
6. Morrígan fulfills the request

That's a very linear, logical path to follow; there is a great amount of focus here. The scene change at the very end is meant to be an "in the mean time" shift, so we can see what happens with the MC (and Morgana) while Morrígan is away. I don't see any lack of focus here at all. It's unfortunate that you're losing interest; it sounds like it's just not your style, at least in general. Personally, I'm increasingly invested in the plot and characters.

Well, now maybe, but in the beginning there is not a focus, at first was to him resurrect both of the girls, and after the witch he don't do that, because "now i don't know here to look", i don't like the type of the game that is a story all over the place (like your example of game of thrones) if the game is a male mc, at least the game need to focus on him (remember, male mc, not multiple protagonist), i don't care about the others, like i said, look like the mc is one god (or something like that) that see all and play with all, we don't have the main focus only on the male mc. Don't get me wrong, is not a bad game, but for me is not a great game too, so far there is not one character in the game that i can say "hey, i like him or her" (maybe morrigan), the mc is a character that i don't care about him. Maybe the tags are wrong or i'm being picky, but like you said, look a lot more as a tv series, where we know what everyone do, than a porn game that is "male protagonist". Just look at some games here in this site, yeah, we see some stuff that others do, but the mc is really well written, in this one, the mc is just that kind of guy that you don't care about him, in the beginning after he remember about the girls and was trying to bring them back, i was "oh, now is going to be good, and we will see his character develop" and he goes back to being someone that i don't care (just that prince that goes fucking everyone and don't care about nothing). There is another game here in this site, that is the exact same type of character, that autor is excellet at writing lesbian content, but the male mc is horrible, i don't know if is the same with this dev, but look like. I will be completely honest, is not a bad game, but after playing for some hours, i complete lost interest in the story, maybe you like this kind of story or game, and i complete respect that, everyone have your own taste, but for me, it was boring as hell.

 

[AlexTorch]

The renders are brutal, the story has great potential, all the girls are bombs 10/10, the other characters have interesting sub plots, all in all it's an awesome game, except for one small thing called the MC.

In the beginning of the story we find out he has lived a sheltered life, doing nothing but chasing women, so he's slow, dim-witted, plainly stupid, has no experience fighting or leading, but after some near death experience he decides to change.
Character progression right, awesome, except there is none.


Chapter 1: There is a problem, mc is clueless, someone else comes up with a plan, saves the mc, mc cries about how he is not a child and that he has to make his own decisions and does absolutely nothing about it.

Chapter 2: Again, there is a problem, mc is clueless again, someone else comes up with a plan again, saves the mc again, mc cries about how he is not a child and that he has to make his own decisions and does absolutely nothing about it again.

Chapter 2: AGAIN, there is a problem, mc is clueless AGAIN, someone else comes up with a plan AGAIN, saves the mc AGAIN, mc cries about how he is not a child and that he has to make his own decisions and does absolutely nothing about it AGAIN.

.
.
.

Chapter 99: ...

You get my point, all the characters are more fleshed out 3d persons, even the father that's supposed to be a bad useless guy has a more complex personality and story than the MC.
It's like the MC is here only for the sex scenes while he is completely irrelevant to the story, just make Morrigan the main character and be done with it then if you're not planning to rise the MC IQ above 20.

That's exactly what i was talking about, everyone is better written than him, he don't even look like he is the main protagonist of this history.

 

[TundraLupus]

Does anyone know how to request a tag? I'm enjoying this game far more now than I did in the past, I think it has potential and is fun, but besides what was mentioned about the Mc, by myself in the past and others now, the game needs a multiple protagonist tag, we make major choices for other characters and experience the world through their eyes, in the last update alone we spent way more time with another character and not the MC, so just please put the tag there so we can avoid this uncomfortable situation, as I've said I'm enjoying the game, it is good, the protagonist needs to grow and a lot but the rest is very good.

 

[RustyCooter]

Love the update!! I personally think this game has one of the best (if not the best) story on this site!! Curious to see how the management/sandbox will go though. All for it if it isn't to grindy. Definitely try to support this game when I can! Also curious about how long this game will be especially since all that was chapter 1 XD.

You are bat shit crazy if you think it's the best. Even one of the best. It's good. But not that good. Going sandbox is usually never a good thing also.

 

[c3p0]

Does anyone know how to request a tag? I'm enjoying this game far more now than I did in the past, I think it has potential and is fun, but besides what was mentioned about the Mc, by myself in the past and others now, the game needs a multiple protagonist tag, we make major choices for other characters and experience the world through their eyes, in the last update alone we spent way more time with another character and not the MC, so just please put the tag there so we can avoid this uncomfortable situation, as I've said I'm enjoying the game, it is good, the protagonist needs to grow and a lot but the rest is very good.

Report the OP and write done that this thread need tag xy, I would say.

 

[Deleted member 416612]

You are bat shit crazy if you think it's the best. Even one of the best. It's good. But not that good. Going sandbox is usually never a good thing also.

Hey there,

As you may have seen, I don't usually comment on people that offering their feedback because I want them to feel free to do so as they want. That means I don't even say something to those who give a bad review because I know that I may not reach all of you out there, but I take notice and try to make this game better. The exception to this is the feedbacks where I had to state my point of view due to some accusation or things like that. That doesn't mean that we should offend someone for thinking this game is good or the best. The beauty of this site is that it brings together people with different opinions/preferences/views and so on.

 

[Samu444]

Great game, keep up the good work

 

[Dude2020]

How do you get the scenes with Morgana?

 

[Deleted member 416612]

How do you get the scenes with Morgana?

Basically if went full Morgana from the beginning, you get them. One of the things I will implement is to actually see the points you have gained on skills and on other characters. Now if I tell you how many points you need, you can't see them in the stats.

 

[AlexTorch]

As you may have seen, I don't usually comment on people that offering their feedback because I want them to feel free to do so as they want.

I complete respect this, but since you are the dev, is always good to know, even at some times that you need to say the same thing over and over, what are your thoughts about the game and the path that you want to take, of course, feedback and criticism is always good when we have good ones, but is nice to know the idea that you have for the game, what characters you prefer to keep focus, their path, what kinda of things you may or may not added. Communication is always good, and i understand that sometimes you may find some retarded people, and is hard to make them understand your point of view, that is YOUR game, and what they are asking you will never change, but is always good. Good luck with this game.

 

[IoLord]

'ello 'ello. I haven't touched this game before, hoping someone can help me with which download I'm supposed to start with... do I start with the standard v1.3 dl and then move onto Rise of the Legend 1.0? or is Rise of the Legend just a more complete version of v1.3?

 

[Deleted member 416612]

Hey there,

As I read the comments and I see there are some different points of view related to some aspects of the game I decided to write a few words about my vision, as AlexTorch suggested, which I thank him for that (or her).

Related to the 'multiple protagonists'. One of the reasons that I implement these scenes, was for the immersion. Imagine that I want to present a sad story that holds the origins of a major character. I could easily present it in a dialogue of half of page or I could lead the reader/player to that place. What does it change? Well, first of all, the magnitude of that moment. Presenting it through a dialogue, or a note in a book would cut drastically from the immersion and the impact of that memory, or scene. Presenting it as I did until now, would take you on a different path where you could actually see things differently.
And related to protagonists:
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"The protagonist is the character whose fate matters most to the story."

Related to MC and his life. His story, as I may have hinted before, isn't a really happy one. He grew up in the shadow of his father, a prominent general in the imperial army. There is a thing in the plot that will justify his father's way of doing things, plus he was under constant pressure to rise to his title and obligations. Some would compare our MC with a loser. I would say it's far from the truth. I say that he was (and is) a rebel that would defy inherited obligations, openly defying his father even if at some point as shown in the memories, we saw that there were consequences for this defiance. But he still was the man that would stand for his way of life. Not to be confused with being spoiled, mainly due to the reasons mentioned above.
So, what about the lack of experience? Well, wouldn't be good if we could inherit all the skills, if we wouldn't make mistakes or if we somehow were better than others, with no justification at all? If an attempting kidnapping would have taken place, but we somehow, we would anticipate that and be one step ahead. Or if we could have foreseen the plan that an age-worn elder prepared for us, to take the control of the castle and realm. It would have been great.
Now, the realm of Colonia stands alone isolated by the other powers, and on the brink of a war with its neighbor. What if our MC was a character that played by the rules, what would a 'kneeling' prince have done? Hmmm...
Luckily for us, we have a rebel, or as I may portray him, a wild dark horse that can't be tainted (or maybe it can, by lust or love).
Related to the adult part, believe me when I say that this game will not try to compensate with the story for the lack of the adult part. No. There will be plenty of scenes, a part in the story, and another part will be accessible from the sandbox. Also, I am going now for the full animations, and I am trying to increase the overall quality of the game.

In the end, I would like to say that I aim high. I want to deliver a quality adult game that wouldn't offend, through its simplicity, anyone that played the game. Adult games should be more than landlords and 20 years old 'men' that look like 14 years old boys.

Yours,
Mad King
The landlord

 

[Azsouth]

could add dragons for the two sisters and make them the MC sisterwives like Aegon the Conqueror in Game of Thrones lore

 

[ElTioPaco]

What a great game, yes sir.

This game makes it clear that this genre is not just about children trying to fuck all girls of their high school.

It has a great story, depth, and intriguing characters that never seem flat.

It is a great experience to be able to say that I wait for the next chapter because of the story, than because of the sex.

I usually write (I have even had an idea for a game of this) and I greatly value a good story.

don't change, you're doing great.

 

[lTTMl]

I had a sleepless night on the last update and... WOW !! The writing, the characters, choices, consequences and the kingdom management that is planned (moral, army, etc..). Even the plan of the scenes and poses is extremely well worked.

It's nice to see choices that don't just say "Evil is bad." there is good in bad and bad in good, it's a cycle.

Question Mad King, I want to support you for $5 but I saw that there was no wallpaper, why not proposed wallpapers in 1080p or 900p of the 4K versions? It will attract more people, including me.

 

[RedSignal]

Good game with good story. I wonder how much time dev takes for each update. I hope the updates are frequent.

 

[ju1zzed]

I have a bad feeling about Morrigan.....

i really hope she is loyal to our mc and wont betray our love/trust

Edit: and no im not talking about NTR.