VN Ren'Py Abandoned Watching My Wife [v0.6.1] [Illegible Mink]

[Illegible Mink]

Just played through newest update and I am just as amazed as when I checked it for the first time. It is just clean. Models are amazing, scenery is lovely, your English language knowledge that introduces uncommon words at least outside UK brings refreshing feel to the game, especially for people who have played a lot of these games and are kinda used to the usual sentences, the pace is absolutely thrilling - love when wife starts out conservative and reserved in this type of genre, even small detail such as her having normal underwear not some super sexy thong and see-through bra from the start, but if that comes with time it will be a welcome sight and with the right preparation 1000x more sexy! As other's have mentioned this two perspective thing is cool, but maybe in future there should be choice if you want to view wife's POV or not, for people who want to be on "wife cheats on you" route it might be a lot hotter to just notice some details of her cheating and have suspicion not outright know about it and certainly not to witness it right away, but that is just my opinion. Also, thank you for taking extra step and restoring 32bit support, I would really hate to miss out on a game that, if moves forward on current trajectory, will probably become best game of it's genre!

P.S. Noticed two typos in newest update, not super important, but if there is any little perfectionist hiding inside you I thought you might want to know. And sorry for long post, thanks for reading
P.S.S. I really love visuals of "thoughts" text that it have that blue and red border, it is super easy to read and sepperate thoughts from actual speech and is easy on the eyes, thanks!

typo 1 - "thankyou" should be sepperated with a space
typo 2 - "your" should be you're

I am thrilled that you like what I have done. Also, I want you to pick up on typos - it's amazing how you can playtest things a hundred times and yet find new mistakes in vocabulary, punctuation etc.

Regarding your suggestions...

She will get more risqué - 100%. As you have mentioned, she needs a starting point from which to begin. I did intentionally pick out clothing that a 'typical' mature woman would wear. From experience, the sexy underwear thing dies off after being married for a while. It also reflects a decline in excitement and a sense of self consciousness that can creep in over the years.​

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Ironically, I did initially plan for you to skip her experiences as you played the game - should you choose to do so. I even coded it in. I personally really like the thought of that - you can sense something is happening, but cannot be sure. That you never quite know, and are reliant on what your wife tells you, how she acts etc. However, when I thought about it, I predicted (perhaps wrongly) posts complaining about whole releases (1.1) being inaccessible, and a sense of playing half a game - that it extended the timespan between x.0 releases with no 1.1 releases in between. It would be interesting to hear others views on this option.​

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Again, thank you so much for your generous comments, and keep in touch (typos have been fixed).

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[cold_arctus]

Ironically, I did initially plan for you to skip her experiences as you played the game - should you choose to do so. I even coded it in. I personally really like the thought of that - you can sense something is happening, but cannot be sure. That you never quite know, and are reliant on what your wife tells you, how she acts etc. However, when I thought about it, I predicted (perhaps wrongly) posts complaining about whole releases (1.1) being inaccessible, and a sense of playing half a game - that it extended the timespan between x.0 releases with no 1.1 releases in between. It would be interesting to hear others views on this option.

Just to share my thoughts on that: For me personally the wife's POV was by far more interesting than the husbands (of course I'm bias here, because I'm not interested in the husband's path with teen/college girls). While the wife's content was nice, repeating the morning scene felt redundant.

I would had add there a choice for players to choose, if they want to follow the husband or the wife for the day. The different evening scenes would be based on the player's previous choices (talking to the wife, offering making coffee etc.).

Funny note: If you play the cheating wife path and only follow the wife's POV the game would become "Making a cuckold".

 

[Illegible Mink]

While the wife's content was nice, repeating the morning scene felt redundant.

I can see that - and as you'll know, it has been mentioned earlier too. Perhaps I could distil it a little further. I really want you to see how she reacts to your decisions through the day, but there's work I could do on it. Perhaps I could script a sort of summary which touches on it, but shows the key parts.

It could be worth looking into. Despite generally very positive comments re the wife's path I haven't heard any vocal support regarding the more mundane aspects of your day together. I am willing to hear that though, so please comment if you feel it's fine as is. As I've said earlier, I am willing to hear general advice and suggestions. I can't think of everything, and if it's generally supported, and not too niche, it can be incorporated.

Of course, patrons naturally have more influence, and I will be consulting with them about any changes first.

Thanks for your thoughts, always welcome.

 

[HV3]

Sorry for asking this the 9-billionth time; Does it ever switch to the wife's perspective ?

 

[RolandG.]

Really great how a dev is active here and cares about the opinions of others. i have rarely experienced this way in this form. i hope it stays like this and we all get a wonderful game.

 

[cold_arctus]

Perhaps I could distil it a little further. I really want you to see how she reacts to your decisions through the day, but there's work I could do on it. Perhaps I could script a sort of summary which touches on it, but shows the key parts.

Let's assume we players have the choice to decide to follow the husband or the wife through the day, then I consider reading/seeing her reaction as a bonus. In the same way as I learn more about the husband on his path.

E.g. if we play the husband path we witness that he got teased by his female student or has a thing for his student. That's something we wouldn't know when we follow the wife's path. On the other hand we witness that the wife's new younger colleagues and her boss were checking her out.

In a later scene between the husband and the wife could drop hints about the two scenes as reactions based on the love and respect score. I'm aware that this way of scripting might make it a bit more difficult, because you will have to think far ahead of the story.

Btw. possible that the love and respect score aren't enough and an additional "corruption" score is needed for both husband and wife. But that might depend on the story, if the husband push his wife into the cheating/hotwifing/sharing idea or the other way around. Could be interesting on the cheating path to see how the wife corrupts her husband into the cuckold life style and seeing how much he enjoys it.

Just sharing my thoughts and not demanding anything from you.

 

[therealkirun]

Android port pls?

 

[cold_arctus]

Android port pls?

Either learn to make it yourself by downloading RenPy SDK and other extra programs or use Joiplay.

 

[Seanthiar]

I can see that - and as you'll know, it has been mentioned earlier too. Perhaps I could distil it a little further. I really want you to see how she reacts to your decisions through the day, but there's work I could do on it. Perhaps I could script a sort of summary which touches on it, but shows the key parts.
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Maybe you should not show one part after the other like you did. A way would be to show the story out of one perspective and insert scenes of the other part in that story. In movies it's most of the time a cross-fade and the other story relevant scene starts with "Meanwhile...." It gives a bit more dynamic in the story and most of the time doesn't need a repeat of scenes that have both of them in them like it did now.

 

[Illegible Mink]

Sorry for asking this the 9-billionth time; Does it ever switch to the wife's perspective ?

The newest release (1.1) does so. Just download from title section. There's also a Mega 32-Bit link some posts above this one - post #376.

Really great how a dev is active here and cares about the opinions of others. i have rarely experienced this way in this form. i hope it stays like this and we all get a wonderful game.

Can't see why it will change - I am always interested in measured and constructive feedback. Can only make the game better.

Android port pls?

This is an issue I'm aware of - please see post #340

 

[Illegible Mink]

Let's assume we players have the choice to decide to follow the husband or the wife through the day, then I consider reading/seeing her reaction as a bonus.

May be difficult because as it stands, the male MC part is longer than the female MC. Would need more story being added to wife's side to make it even and worth doing. Could just be too much work.

I did think about a Corruption stat - but initially rejected it because I thought the other two sort of covered it, and thought it might end up simply being an amalgam of the other two. It may, however, work when things happen which do not effect Love and Respect - such as seeing sharing pornography, other alpha men etc. Corruption therefore could certainly work, but whether she acts on it could revolve around how the other stats are playing out - that way you will be training her so to speak. Just got to think about balancing so they all have an impact. Food for thought...

 

[Illegible Mink]

Maybe you should not show one part after the other like you did.

The reasoning behind it was intentionally to separate the two. I wanted you not to know specifically how your decisions affected her - what stats changed etc (sometimes it's clear, I know) - and also to create a 'wife's day' type effect.

I know that this might not fit into everybody's ideal scenario, but I also didn't really want a 'play scene / roll back to get the correct stat' moment. I know we're all different in value of rollback etc - but I thought it would make players possibly think of what to do before they jumped in. Of course most peeps save at decision points anyway.

Interestingly, I played DMD when I first came to this forum - and as I was new I didn't actually know there was a rollback function. I remember thinking quite carefully about what I was going to do - and actually stressing when I chose the wrong option. Once I did find it, it took that jeopardy away and it became less exciting and more a mechanical experience. If it was up to me - I'd disable rollback totally - but then there'd be a revolution akin to that in 1776 .

 

[cold_arctus]

May be difficult because as it stands, the male MC part is longer than the female MC. Would need more story being added to wife's side to make it even and worth doing. Could just be too much work.

Not every scene needs a husband/wife POV. Maybe focusing on a single POV might be even better and using a dynamic "meanwhile", as pointed out by user Seanthiar. This could be a question for your patrons with votes, if they want to see more of the wife's or the husband's pov (as long as it fits with your ideas).

If it was up to me - I'd disable rollback totally - but then there'd be a revolution akin to that in 1776

Hahaha... and I would just add it back.

 

[neronwtf]

I haven't heard any vocal support regarding the more mundane aspects of your day together. I am willing to hear that though, so please comment if you feel it's fine as is.

Personally it's fine as long as it doesn't slow down too much game's progression. Maybe you can either divide the screen when you think it's important to know what both characters think or you can do what you did but without splitting in two updates and repeating most of the dialogues.

 

[Illegible Mink]

Personally it's fine as long as it doesn't slow down too much game's progression. Maybe you can either divide the screen when you think it's important to know what both characters think or you can do what you did but without splitting in two updates and repeating most of the dialogues.

I will have a think, and will discuss with the patrons. I can't promise anything - but I will certainly bounce it around.

 

[atrebor68]

Seems VERY interesting... (but watching your wife flirting with another man is considered NTR?)

 

[iainmore]

I am looking forward to seeing this from husbands and wife's perspectives. That is difficult to achieve even in writing though. Great that it is even being attempted from my uhmm perspective.

 

[cold_arctus]

(but watching your wife flirting with another man is considered NTR?)

No it isn't. NTR is more about cheating and humiliation. However, most people here on F95 consider everything with a second dick as NTR. Means, as soon as a female character speaks to someone who isn't MC then it is NTR for them.

 

[MayJames]

you have my attention (hope iita as good as it looks)

 

[Illegible Mink]

Seems VERY interesting... (but watching your wife flirting with another man is considered NTR?)

Not necessarily - as it can lead to sharing.