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Depends what your definition of NTR is, I suppose, as it seems there's five different definitions of the term on F95. If you think it's cucking/cheating/etc, then there'll absolutely be none of that - once again, short of a completely avoidable, and only implied drugged sexual assault. The Female MC has optional LIs in two other male characters (James/Aiden). If the player wants the female protagonist to have nothing to do with them, then she can reject/refuse them and any romantic routes are cut off from there.
Just to clarify: Only the male MC (Logan) will have the harem option, regardless if the player chooses to have the Female MC end up with him or not. The female MC has other LIs if the player chooses to explore those routes, or they can completely avoid them and have the Female MC stay with the male MC. Goes into a bit more detail above in my response to SaltySugar.
Reagan (and perhaps Lily/Eden) is currently the only lesbian ending I have planned/semi-written. There's two lesbian scenes with the female protagonist right now, and likely a fair bit more. My bad about the tags. I thought I put that up there in the first release. I'll get that fixed, thanks.
I believe someone responded to this with a few screencaps of current pregnancies shown. The one on the left isn't exactly super relevant to the storyline, but more of a side character that's connected to the main storyline and a bit of a plot device to show a more 'human' side of Luca before his true nature gets a bit more fleshed out. The one on the right is an older image/police report of the woman, which might be hard to see on Android/smaller screens to be fair. She won't be pregnant when she shows up in the present timeline, however. That said, there is a current pregnancy shown at the end of 0.2. The male mc's ex, who the player will choose to either get back together with or stay apart/no pregnancy.
Changed. If only to stop people from asking about it.
Just to be clear, I'm not praising Nazism, Nazis, supremacism, or anything of the sort in the slightest. Just creating a villain, of sorts. Showing that they're aware of their morality, but choosing to do the wrong thing is a fundamental block for building one.
I mean, did you even go through the VN?
Rape: unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against a person's will or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconsciousness, or deception.
Cheating: Someone who is in a committed relationship and breaks the trust of his or her partner by getting physically or emotionally involved with another person.
NTR: Definition.
Where was the forced sex at, exactly? As I've mentioned many times already, there's an implied drugging/assault later on, but there's nothing in the VN that would currently qualify as forcing someone to have sex against their will. Once again, cheating would imply at least some semblance of a clear, committed relationship. There hasn't been a meaningful one established yet. I don't even have to go into detail about the last one, honestly. There's nothing that's happened that would even look like NTR, and there won't be. Provided people get their definitions of things straight.
Thank you.
As for the 32-bit, I'll see what I can do for 0.3. Just might take a bit longer to get everything uploaded.
There will be romance between the MCs, provided the player chooses that.
wrong definition should be using the one from F95 since that applies to this site
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Even F95's definition doesn't apply. There aren't any established relationships to do it with.
ya sure keep telling yourself that but i will skip your game from this point based on the fact that you use a multiple protagonists tag to get around tags and don't even know the right meaning.
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I didn't do it to get around anything, though? I used multiple protagonists because it fit the story better. I mean, I'm trying to be nice here, but don't throw around accusations you can't back up without actual evidence that I'm doing what you're insinuating.
That being said, it sucks that you're skipping it. Enjoy your thanksgiving/night/morning.
F95's definition says: [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
No mention of relationship status at all. Romantic interests or LIs. So, despite any current relationship status, if the person or persons are involved with anyone else, according to the rules, it is NTR.
I'm one of the stone cold haters of the NTR genre, but, I'm not going to attack you. I think all of the implied actions(IF there are any. I haven't finished yet.) of others regarding an LI should be removed, IF the player didn't want it to happen. Giving them a clean game so to speak. But, not going to bust your balls over it.
Either way, I think you should write the game your way. Not mine, or anyone else's. If we don't like things in a game, we can just move on to something else.
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That's honestly not a great definition, especially from a sexual/fetishistic view (especially when most, if not all, mainstream uses of the term usually go along with infidelity/adultery. Sans the 'theft of a crush' trope, I suppose, but even that usually exists alongside the crush knowing and/or demeaning said cuckee.), but not my rules. I just feel like if the player has the option of outright refusing/avoiding all romantic progression with someone other than the 'MC', then NTR as a whole goes out the window - or rather, should.
If the mods deem it necessary to add the tag/genre, then they may, but don't exactly feels it's necessary. Thanks for being mature about it, though.
I just think that the rules are in place for a reason. Even though I tend to break them often and I pay the price with warnings and infractions. Ahahaha But, you've been a cool person with me and you don't deserve me treating you in a bad way. I'll get to playing this release when I can, and I'll have a better understanding of whether I want to continue or not. As I said before, after playing the first release, I'm still on the fence about some things.That's honestly not a great definition, especially from a sexual/fetishistic view (especially when most, if not all, mainstream uses of the term usually go along with infidelity/adultery. Sans the 'theft of a crush' trope, I suppose, but even that usually exists alongside the crush knowing and/or demeaning said cuckee.), but not my rules. I just feel like if the player has the option of outright refusing/avoiding all romantic progression with someone other than the 'MC', then NTR as a whole goes out the window - or rather, should.
If the mods deem it necessary to add the tag/genre, then they may, but don't exactly feels it's necessary. Thanks for being mature about it, though.
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all games with avoidable/optional NTR have the NTR tag.I just feel like if the player has the option of outright refusing/avoiding all romantic progression with someone other than the 'MC', then NTR as a whole goes out the window - or rather, should.
If the mods deem it necessary to add the tag/genre, then they may, but don't exactly feels it's necessary. Thanks for being mature about it, though.
Just because they are avoidable/optional they don't get rid of the tag
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I haven't tried a multiple protagonist game yet but this one looks really interesting and the renders look amazing, I'll give it a shot!
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Is there a way to get the music track list? because I am definitely loving the tracks you have in this game. You can PM me them if you want to. I really want to add them to my music collection x3 Oh, and can you or someone make some Sigs? I'd like to add a Rainn one to my signature ^^
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It looks good but the fact that there is many protagonists make the story weak, i have a hard time to get in and have fun. In those VN i like to identify to a protagonist and maybe a second if it's done well but here the story goes in every directions and i get quickly bored and i start to click and click in order to find something interesting. I don't know maybe i'm too old for that kind of teenager story
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Fair enough. Like I said, if the mods/admins deem it necessary, then so be it. But I don't feel it accurately labels nor describes the story and turns many who would otherwise enjoy it away, so I'll leave it as is.
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. That should be it. By the way, there's credits at the end of each update with all the songs/material used. I might make some eventually (when I get more comfortable with video editing/motion graphics), but dildorog made some great ones (better than I could even think of doing currently), as did Lady Aspen.
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Wooow!! o.o Thank you so very much!! It means so much to me that you took the time out of your day to post all those songs for me!
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you and once more
I am still playing the update (which I am enjoying btw) taking my time with it so I don't finish it quickly and end up craving for moar x3 My gosh... Those sigs are amazing!! :3 It was hard trying to figure out which one to use lol I might just switch between them here and there. I'm sure once you do end up making your own sigs, they will come out perfecto! <3 I hope you had a good Thanksgiving
Loving the Game so far. You are a f@%king rock star. it's been awhile since I've found a game with a quality storyline that is also backed up with a female cast that are perfect in terms of being correctly proportioned, but still are very unique in features and body shapes (rather than a cast of copy and pastes)
The scene where the band and erin go to practice for the first time. Waking the Demon is BFMV (or the Amazing cover done by Villian of the Story), Unholy Confessions i believe is Avenged Sevenfold (pre-mainstream), but who sings When Everything Falls? I'm going to punch myself when someone tells me cuz i know this, but I can't recall right now.
Last question - Do the laws places for avoiding copyright infrindgement, "a clip of any song that's been produced can be used in other content as long as it does not exceed 30 secs" apply to this type of content creation? at least that was the law many years ago. it could have obviously been revised.
The scene where the band and erin go to practice for the first time. Waking the Demon is BFMV (or the Amazing cover done by Villian of the Story), Unholy Confessions i believe is Avenged Sevenfold (pre-mainstream), but who sings When Everything Falls? I'm going to punch myself when someone tells me cuz i know this, but I can't recall right now.
Last question - Do the laws places for avoiding copyright infrindgement, "a clip of any song that's been produced can be used in other content as long as it does not exceed 30 secs" apply to this type of content creation? at least that was the law many years ago. it could have obviously been revised.
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First and foremost, thanks for playing and the kind words.
When Everything Falls is by Haste The Day, the title track for that album. One of my favorite albums. As to copyright laws, from the rather extensive search I did, I didn't see anything like that. I do think most signed acts (and their labels) would have a hard time being okay with their music being used in pornographic content, at least without some kind of legitimate license, and even if they were, I'd still be looking at $600-$1500 or so. About $200 for an independent act. Using even 30 seconds of a copyrighted song, I believe, will still count as copyright infringement.
Hence why I'm using a lot of "No Copyright"-esque music from YouTube. So, even if I do run into some level of legal trouble doing it, I have the fallback of saying "This music was listed under No Copyright on this channel at the time, I wasn't aware they're signed now. May not work completely, but it makes the lack of intent to steal quite obvious. So, if I do get contacted by a label/artist/lawyer, I can just remove the track and (hopefully, I suppose) be done with it.
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I see theres a discussion about NTR in the game, I've played the first release only and I haven't seen anything NTR related..i personally don't care much if there's NTR just make it optional and we good.
I think the confusion about NTR in this game or possibility of it being in the game stems from the fact that the definition of NTR varies for alot of people and the dev hasn't been clear enough. Some people in the minority consider it NTR if the MCs girlfriend/boyfriend cheats on them while the more sensitive players consider NTR to be any situation where a female character associated with the MC fucks around with other male characters to be NTR even if that female character isn't an Li and just a fuck buddy or whatever.. I could be wrong but this is the knowledge I've picked up along the way regarding NTR and people's opinions and feelings on it. So perhaps be more clear on that, will there be any sex scene's between characters that aren't either one of the MCs? Will the LIs be associated with other characters romantically? I know there was an optional sex scene with Luke but as you mentioned that was for storyline purposes and to either increase or decrease his chances with Rainn. But going forward will this be a thing or will the sex scene's and romance stuff only be for Rainn and Logan?
I think the confusion about NTR in this game or possibility of it being in the game stems from the fact that the definition of NTR varies for alot of people and the dev hasn't been clear enough. Some people in the minority consider it NTR if the MCs girlfriend/boyfriend cheats on them while the more sensitive players consider NTR to be any situation where a female character associated with the MC fucks around with other male characters to be NTR even if that female character isn't an Li and just a fuck buddy or whatever.. I could be wrong but this is the knowledge I've picked up along the way regarding NTR and people's opinions and feelings on it. So perhaps be more clear on that, will there be any sex scene's between characters that aren't either one of the MCs? Will the LIs be associated with other characters romantically? I know there was an optional sex scene with Luke but as you mentioned that was for storyline purposes and to either increase or decrease his chances with Rainn. But going forward will this be a thing or will the sex scene's and romance stuff only be for Rainn and Logan?