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When will we have a lesbian scene with Rainn that doesn't somehow involve a dildo or a strap-on? lol.
Of course I like masturbation with dildos, but for my girl Rainn I prefer lesbian sex with tongue, fingers or pussy-on-pussy. Heh.

We barely met Sam, but she seems sweet and nice. Will she be a love interest for Rainn?

Knowing that so far the only lesbian routes planned are Reagan and Lily/Eden, I really hope Sam is romanceablae for Rinn.
I didn't like the Lily/Eden dynamic with Rainn at all. I don't want to assume anything, but it seems like submission will be a recurring topic.
And with Reagan, well. I like Reagan but I don't know how her relationship with Rainn will be.

That being said, I'm genuinely worried that the male MC will get all the attention. He'll be the only one with a harem possibility and Rinn won't have it. Also, the whole Rinn will be drugged thing and the MC being "the hero" worries me too. As I say, I get the impression that the focus will be on the male MC and Rinn will be used for the darker themes and plots and won't get much "love".
 
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When will we have a lesbian scene with Rainn that doesn't somehow involve a dildo or a strap-on? lol.
Of course I like masturbation with dildos, but for my girl Rainn I prefer lesbian sex with tongue, fingers or pussy-on-pussy. Heh.

We barely met Sam, but she seems sweet and nice. Will she be a love interest for Rainn?

Knowing that so far the only lesbian routes planned are Reagan and Lily/Eden, I really hope Sam is romanceablae for Rinn.
I didn't like the Lily/Eden dynamic with Rainn at all. I don't want to assume anything, but it seems like submission will be a recurring topic.
And with Reagan, well. I like Reagan but I don't know how her relationship with Rainn will be.

That being said, I'm genuinely worried that the male MC will get all the attention. He'll be the only one with a harem possibility and Rinn won't have it. Also, the whole Rinn will be drugged thing and the MC being "the hero" worries me too. As I say, I get the impression that the focus will be on the male MC and Rinn will be used for the darker themes and plots and won't get much "love".
Starting with Sam, I quickly introduced her in 0.2, but she'll see some screen time. That being said, anyone with a fairly keen eye might've noticed it:

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Eden/Lily is will have those submission themes, but they will even out, and may go all together. Perhaps optional. The problem is, there's already a lot going on, and putting it all in order is going to be a bit of a bitch (bugs/broken things should probably be expected.). After deliberating with myself, there'll probably be one more female LI for Rainn, so three male LIs (and a Harem, if players picks Logan and chooses to do that.) and three female (Reagan, Eden/Lily, and a as of yet unintroduced character who I had planned for the beginning of 0.3 and perhaps some later on.).

The main storyline is focused on both Rainn and Logan, their trials and tribulations, their vices and demons, and how they find each other as a catalyst to keep getting up after getting figuratively put on their ass - even if it's not romantic. Both will have their demons biting at their ankles, not just Rainn. Everyone has their darkness/demons, or trauma, or whatever it may be. It's a recurring point that'll show its face for most in this VN.

I wouldn't use a main character as a plot device (and even then, using rape/sexual assault as plot device is kind of off-putting regardless.). The player can play 'hero', but that doesn't mean he becomes prince charming because of it. That isn't how the world work, not in this one at least. If he doesn't, then it opens a branching storyline that can end up much darker for Rainn if the player doesn't help her bounce back from it.
 

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The main storyline is focused on both Rainn and Logan, their trials and tribulations, their vices and demons, and how they find each other as a catalyst to keep getting up after getting figuratively put on their ass - even if it's not romantic. Both will have their demons biting at their ankles, not just Rainn. Everyone has their darkness/demons, or trauma, or whatever it may be. It's a recurring point that'll show its face for most in this VN.

I wouldn't use a main character as a plot device (and even then, using rape/sexual assault as plot device is kind of off-putting regardless.). The player can play 'hero', but that doesn't mean he becomes prince charming because of it. That isn't how the world work, not in this one at least. If he doesn't, then it opens a branching storyline that can end up much darker for Rainn if the player doesn't help her bounce back from it.
I understand that. I'm not talking about a prince charming. Eventually both protagonists will have dark times and good times, that's for sure.

But it still shocks me that, so far, it seems like Rainn will be the more exposed of the two, having to turn to the other protagonist to "save" her. I don't know if I'm making myself clear. Sorry for that. I'm trying my best here. lol

This is purely personal opinion. I don't like the idea of one MC literally depending on the other. I like that they will complement each other. And while I think it's an interesting idea what you're doing, Logan being able to "rescue" her by player choice would seem like a good idea to me only if, somehow, I as a player with Rainn can also avoid it and not rely solely on Logan. That's what I'm not entirely happy about.
 

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Somehow there’s a taste left that DEV is strongly making lesbian harem and that’s not in my plans. In my game, Rainn is only content with another MC. I don't take any lesbians in harems, but bi is at the limits if 3some comes into the picture, but FF won't bend in my harems. Therefore, this multiMC is starting to spit itself in the face and is never a properly functioning system.
 
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Somehow there’s a taste left that DEV is strongly making lesbian harem and that’s not in my plans. In my game, Rainn is only content with another MC. I don't take any lesbians in harems, but bi is at the limits if 3some comes into the picture, but FF won't bend in my harems. Therefore, this multiMC is starting to spit itself in the face and is never a properly functioning system.
I'm starting to feel that also. I only want to play the male MC and am stuck playing the girl also. So, for me, Rainn is just another LI and I will play it as a solo with her. But, at the current time, that doesn't seem feasible.
 

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Will Rainn possibly get knocked up as well or will it only be Non-Mc girls?
Yes, she will. Though, likely closer to an ending as a pregnancy would essentially derail the storyline.

Somehow there’s a taste left that DEV is strongly making lesbian harem and that’s not in my plans.
I've already mentioned that there isn't going to be a lesbian harem. The only harem will be the male MC/Logan (and Rainn, if the player chooses her to hook up with him. Again, there will be girl-girl action in that said harem, but will be up to the player. Have a little patience and let the storyline flesh out, or don't. There's a wide world of adult games/VNs out there, and I understand mine might not be to everyone's tastes.
 

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Yes, she will. Though, likely closer to an ending as a pregnancy would essentially derail the storyline.



I've already mentioned that there isn't going to be a lesbian harem. The only harem will be the male MC/Logan (and Rainn, if the player chooses her to hook up with him. Again, there will be girl-girl action in that said harem, but will be up to the player. Have a little patience and let the storyline flesh out, or don't. There's a wide world of adult games/VNs out there, and I understand mine might not be to everyone's tastes.
I get that you say that. But, it feels like. Which is why I'm going the solo route with Rainn. If that's possible.
 

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I have a tattoo fetish, so the preview pictures had me really hyped. But this was a big disappointment. The story is boring, too many parallel story lines, unlikable characters, bad writing. I quite often thought: Nobody talks that way. Nobody acts that way.
For example: The scene with the dildo in the park was complete bullshit. I can not believe anybody would be THAT stupid, and suck a random dildo they just found. What would she do if she found some syringes in the park? Give herself a new piercing?
 

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I love the character models. I hope they're not unique and can be used in other games.
By unique, I assume you mean custom/original characters? They aren't custom made by me in ZBrush or something of the sort. They're all from Daz (or Renderosity? There may be one or two from there.). Beyond that, just some shape/figure morphs on a lot of them.

I have a tattoo fetish, so the preview pictures had me really hyped. But this was a big disappointment. The story is boring, too many parallel story lines, unlikable characters, bad writing. I quite often thought: Nobody talks that way. Nobody acts that way.
For example: The scene with the dildo in the park was complete bullshit. I can not believe anybody would be THAT stupid, and suck a random dildo they just found. What would she do if she found some syringes in the park? Give herself a new piercing?
Fair enough. It's all subjective at the end of the day, I'm not really expecting everyone to like what I put out.

I will say 'bad writing' or 'bad story' is a bit of a reach on a VN that's on 0.2, though. The storylines, nor characters are completely fleshed out. The meat of the story hasn't even come into play yet, but again, I suppose that's subjective. Thanks for giving it a go all the same. :)
 

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First and foremost, thanks for playing and the kind words.

When Everything Falls is by Haste The Day, the title track for that album. One of my favorite albums. As to copyright laws, from the rather extensive search I did, I didn't see anything like that. I do think most signed acts (and their labels) would have a hard time being okay with their music being used in pornographic content, at least without some kind of legitimate license, and even if they were, I'd still be looking at $600-$1500 or so. About $200 for an independent act. Using even 30 seconds of a copyrighted song, I believe, will still count as copyright infringement.

Hence why I'm using a lot of "No Copyright"-esque music from YouTube. So, even if I do run into some level of legal trouble doing it, I have the fallback of saying "This music was listed under No Copyright on this channel at the time, I wasn't aware they're signed now. May not work completely, but it makes the lack of intent to steal quite obvious. So, if I do get contacted by a label/artist/lawyer, I can just remove the track and (hopefully, I suppose) be done with it.
Haste The Day! FML, I knew I'd be pissed at myself, but I didn't think I would be failing to name a song from 1 of the 5 bands that I credit for falling in Love with this Genre. Haste the Day, Atreyu, From Autumn To Ashes, As I Lay Dying and The Used. Those bands started a Love for listening to music I never thought I'd care to have. \m/.
One more great chapter release and a couple more epic band name drops like those that take me back and you'll be seeing me on ur Patreon (y)

About the copyright reply. Yeah I didn't even consider the AdultGame factor, so you're probably correct. My info came from a sports broadcasting station I listen to from time to time. I assume now, the 30 sec or less clip they mentioned probably only applies to radio stations or other broadcasting networks that might not be licensed to play any/or particular music.
And I say next chptr release bcuz I somehow just discovered this gem and would like to see that the Dev releases new content fairly often (2 or maybe 3 chptrs a year depending on size of updates honestly) if I'm going to be signing up. There's a couple (I won't name drop them), but are amazing games, like the one you've started here but I fear I'll die from old age before they get completed....and I'm in my mid-30's lol
 
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