storm1051787

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Anne is indeed a challenging character. So far, the MC has helped every girl out there to solve their problems and achieve their goals. But Anne's goal is to become the best whore in the world, and this game won't have that kind of NTR in which a love interest is getting pounded by other guys. So the result of her quest will be NOT making her the best whore in the world, and I find it kind of off-putting, since we'll be convincing her to not pursue her dream. I mean, I'm not particularly interested in making her the best whore in the world, but it's her dream after all, isn't it? So I'd feel kind of bad if I have to change her mind and make her 'save' herself just for my own amusement. And sure, we have already change Holly's and Myrtle's minds about some aspects like leaving the village or not accepting the woodcutter's death, but those were wrong choices by them and, deep inside, they didn't want to do that.

So I'm really curious to see how devs can pull it out in a wholesome way and convince us that Anne's wish is a wrong one.

NTR means more than a love interest sleeping with other guys. There's a site definition which basically just includes
netorare nothing else. Sharing isn't considered ntr and netori is labled as cheating.
 
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HoneyLibido

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Yeah you guys pretty much laid out neatly what the problem actually is here. I dont particularly mind that that is her goal but it will go against anti-ntr expectations of most in reality.

It'll probably be the most challenging line to tackle out of any girl just because it's on a balancing act of expectations and what has already been established with MC in the game from the beginning - his sex positive attitude brought about by his prostitute moms, he definitely dosen't scorn them for having banged other men.

It's well yeah hard to see where it all goes.
 

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NTR means more than a love interest sleeping with other guys. There's a site definition which basically just includes
netorare nothing else. Sharing isn't considered ntr and netori is labled as cheating.
I know, but devs stated there's not going to be any LI getting frisky with another male. That excludes sharing and whatever label we could assign to the MC being OK with Anne actually working at a brothel
 

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Ogod, no, we just got back on track after all the "milking" howler monkeys, don't summon the "NTR* makes me impotent and break out in hives" crowd.

*—By which they mean "anytime a LI so much as looks twice at another man prior to becoming a slave to MC's monster cock" because they're too insecure to accept that even a fictional woman could possibly be interested to even the tiniest degree in another man.
 
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whichone

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Ogod, no, we just got back on track after all the "milking" howler monkeys, don't summon the "NTR* makes me impotent and break out in hives" crowd.

*—By which they mean "anytime a LI so much as looks twice at another man prior to becoming a slave to MC's monster cock" because they're too insecure to accept that even a fictional woman could possibly be interested to even the tiniest degree in another man.
lol I literally saw someone in another thread today, saying that "a girl having an affair with another girl is NTR."
MC of that game is more likely to be happy about it, than to get jealous, as per the site's definition.
Some people are just fragile things. :LOL::ROFLMAO:
 

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The only thing about Anne's storyline that piques my interest is I'm curious to see what Chestnut does with Fillita. So far, all we've seen is half her face.
maybe we see her in orc update 0,7 cuz her face was green so maybe connected to orc update
 

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my curiosity has now piqued my interest in her. i had forgotten her but now i want to see her.
She's implied to be a gobbo, so probably she's the token shortstack waifu. Shortstacks can be hot so long as the artist doesn't go for "loli character design but she's over 18, we promise, so it's cool" bs, so I'll reserve my judgement until we actually meet her for real.
 

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*sigh* Hello, Worst Girl... hopefully your update is saved for last.

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(And far as I know, she's scored the lowest on each poll. She doesn't have any fans at all. Good.)
Hi, Anne fan here! Though I'm not a patron so I can't vote for her to get updates. She's cute and has a nice disposition, what's not to love? She's also one of the only outliers in terms of body shape in the game - all the others are almost identical. Her body's a bit more realistically proportioned which is very welcome. Variety is the spice :)
 

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Shortstacks can be hot so long as the artist doesn't go for "loli character design but she's over 18, we promise, so it's cool" bs, so I'll reserve my judgement until we actually meet her for real.
Agreed on wanting loli shit to be kept far, faaaar away from my shit. But fortunately it's a very easy fix. No matter how short and spunky the character is, the artist can just draw her with adult boobs. Instant anti-pedo spray. Pretty much by definition if you like boobs, you don't like loli, and vice versa.

Nor am I bugged by the issues others raised above re: NTR content and how one defines it. I don't personally think that there's a dichotomy between MC supporting Anne's "be the best whore" goal vs. the game's stated "no NTR content" claim. NTR implies a *love interest* sleeping around on the MC, right? So who says Anne will ever be a LI? She's a sex worker, MC got one freebie but there's no reason to believe he'll get another, that one was just a "free sample" marketing ploy. Having sex with a prostitute isn't a love affair. So I don't see why the story including a prostitute who you can sleep with violates the "no NTR" restriction, unless you're operating from a truly extreme definition of NTR. Obviously the world includes sex workers, the MC's moms are sex workers and he doesn't see them with any stigma. So why on earth would he refrain from visiting a sex worker he thought was hot? The only sensible definititon of "no NTR" is "no women *love interests* who will sleep with another man after they have slept with MC", and that can be easily satisfied: Anne never comes to love the MC and he never comes to love her. They'll just stay friends with bennies.

No, the bigger problem with the Anne storyline is, the MC first has to lose the infinite bag of gold. Otherwise he's going to destroy the economy for every other john in the city bc he can pay Anne infinite gold per trick. :p I actually am guessing Magicnuts have something clever in store for this because they set all this up way back when, I'm sure it's not lost on them that a MC with infinite money could never be grind-gated from accessing sex scenes with a sex worker character. I fully expect the bag to go poof very quickly at the start of Anne's storyline, whenever we get to see it.
 
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Agreed on wanting loli shit to be kept far, faaaar away from my shit. But fortunately it's a very easy fix. No matter how short and spunky the character is, the artist can just draw her with adult boobs. Instant anti-pedo spray. Pretty much by definition if you like boobs, you don't like loli, and vice versa.

Nor am I bugged by the issues others raised above re: NTR content and how one defines it. I don't personally think that there's a dichotomy between MC supporting Anne's "be the best whore" goal vs. the game's stated "no NTR content" claim. NTR implies a *love interest* sleeping around on the MC, right? So who says Anne will ever be a LI? She's a sex worker, MC got one freebie but there's no reason to believe he'll get another, that one was just a "free sample" marketing ploy. Having sex with a prostitute isn't a love affair. So I don't see why the story including a prostitute who you can sleep with violates the "no NTR" restriction, unless you're operating from a truly extreme definition of NTR. Obviously the world includes sex workers, the MC's moms are sex workers and he doesn't see them with any stigma. So why on earth would he refrain from visiting a sex worker he thought was hot? The only sensible definititon of "no NTR" is "no women *love interests* who will sleep with another man after they have slept with MC", and that can be easily satisfied: Anne never comes to love the MC and he never comes to love her. They'll just stay friends with bennies.

No, the bigger problem with the Anne storyline is, the MC first has to lose the infinite bag of gold. Otherwise he's going to destroy the economy for every other john in the city bc he can pay Anne infinite gold per trick. :p I actually am guessing Magicnuts have something clever in store for this because they set all this up way back when, I'm sure it's not lost on them that a MC with infinite money could never be grind-gated from accessing sex scenes with a sex worker character. I fully expect the bag to go poof very quickly at the start of Anne's storyline, whenever we get to see it.



NTR as per site definition neans netorare. It's cuckholding with the goal of the scene being to create jealousy for the MC and the audience. Since she's a sex worker and the mc knows that and encourages her, it's not ntr regardless of who she sleeps with. That's grouped under sharing/swinging since the goal isn't the cut the mc out. It's would only really be NTR if they start talking about how much better the other guy is compared to the mc.


I guess you have kind of a point. I don't really consider flings and one night stands as love interests
 
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Don't mind me, just sharing the best kiss scene in the game so far. This also the scene that makes me really anticipated this update.

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Have to agree, that one was smokin'. I'm just worried that the Rose storyline is where the promised furry fetish content is gonna appear, since it's been pretty heavily foreshadowed that there's a werewolf stalking her, or that possibly she is one. No offense to anyone who's into that but it's just not my bag. I'd rather they save the furry stuff for shepherd girl if they must include it at all. She can turn into a sheepdog, it'll just make her better at her job :p
 

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There's people screaming "NTR! NTR! GET THE PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!" in the thread for a game with "Escort" right in the fucking title because the game doesn't pretend you're her only client ever, so there's no definition of NTR too extreme for some. Gonna call it now: as soon as the planned lesbian content for Serena, Anne, and Gomira starts getting implemented, we're going to have people in this thread dramatically flinging themselves on their fainting couches because "it's still NTR if it's with another woman, furthermore (long, vaguely homophobic rant about it being a double standard that it's not universally seen as NTR when she does eat out another woman, no matter how overt the game is at showing that they're both part of MC's harem and will never leave him)".

I fully expect the bag to go poof very quickly at the start of Anne's storyline, whenever we get to see it.
If Anne makes MC nut on the infinite bag of gold by accident and that Master Gift cancels out its magic and makes it just another bag, I'm going to laugh.
 

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NTR as per site definition neans netorare. It's cuckholding with the goal of the scene being to create jealousy for the MC and the audience. Since she's a sex worker and the mc knows that and encourages her, it's not ntr regardless of who she sleeps with. That's grouped under sharing/swinging since the goal isn't the cut the mc out. It's would only really be NTR if they start talking about how much better the other guy is compared to the mc.


I guess you have kind of a point. I don't really consider flings and one night stands as love interests
Except that you are ignoring the part about the player feeling jealous, and no matter how much the MC might rationalize it, you can't dictate how the player feels about it. If the audience feels jealous about it, then they are going to consider it NTR. It doesn't matter how you look at it, people are going to feel about it, they way they feel about it. So, let's not talk about this here any more, and get back to talking about what IS going to be in the game.
 
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whichone

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Except that you are ignoring the part about the player feeling jealous, and no matter how much the MC might rationalize it, you can't dictate how the player feels about it. If the audience feels jealous about it, then they are going to consider it NTR. It doesn't matter how you look at it, people are going to feel about it, they way they feel about it. So, let's not talk about this here any more, and get back to talking about what IS going to be in the game.
I just read a guy get jealous because a F side character (not even an LI), that he has not even met, is with her sexual partners & has a voyeur scene where you can watch them all fuck her.
He considered that NTR, like you say.

It seems to be the day for this topic, it's been brought up in numerous threads, for games which do not contain any.
We'll be back to "milking", soon enough. :p:ROFLMAO:
 
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