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ChaosOpen

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Ooooh, are you implying the MC might cheat on his wife ?
Yes and no... This will be pretty difficult to explain but hopefully I can do a decent job. Generally, two partners in a relationship depend on each other to meet their two needs, sexual and emotional. Prior to this, Molly and Logan relied upon each other to get sexual satisfaction and emotional closeness. In cuckolding, you essentially create a three way relationship in which your partners needs are split that between you and another. Logan gets sexual satisfaction from the other girls, while relying on Molly for emotional needs, meanwhile Molly relies on Logan for both sexual satisfaction and emotional needs. However, since Molly is getting such a new and stimulating satisfaction from this new kink, she is neglecting Logan's emotional needs.
However, the road goes the other way as well, Molly relies upon Logan for her emotional needs. Right now, she views the girls and Logan's relationship with them as entirely platonic, with them having no chance of stealing Logan. But, when their emotional relationship starts to get rocky and Chelsey approaches Molly saying that if Molly doesn't want Logan, she is more than happy to take him, Molly, realizes that the girls are real people and do have the potential to steal Logan. Normally the time to stop the cuckolding, Molly decides against it. After all, she began this as a means to rekindle her desire for Logan, she sees these new threats as a reason to stay on her toes and now she wants to prove she is the best girl for Logan and her desire to get closer to Logan emotionally is rekindled.
While there are a bunch of psychological factors at play, lets oversimplify things and simply say that women are attracted to things they can't have, so Molly feels Logan is more attractive the moment she realizes Logan will never be exclusive to her anymore.
 

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Is S3 finished? Or is it still being worked on?
S3 has been dropped. It is at a good enough point to stop. In truth, WMIY has no "finish," season 3 would simply continue on into season 4 would continue until season 5 and 6 and 7 etc.
Instead I have put that effort towards the Remake, which DOES have a conclusive ending planned as well as more well-developed character arcs.
 

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what deferens between remake and original one? (sry bad ing)
The differences are numerous, you'll have to settle for a repost because there is a lot to type and there really isn't much variety between the answers.

The original was just kind of a fun thing where I piles a bunch of different fantasy sexy scenes together, tied them with a VERY loosely connected plot, and just put it out there. It had no real direction, no narrative through line in which all of the events were building up to. It was just "here is a bunch of girls that want to have sex, here is your wife who wants you to have sex with them, enjoy." The characters were really never set with any personality before I created them, I just made a cute girl and their personality kind of evolved. It was pretty haphazard.

Good thing about a remake it all of the work I had previously done I can use to map plan things better. This time the characters have set personalities and flaws going in, and I decided to focus the game around character progression. The story will be focused on two main things:

1. The impact of Molly's fetish on her and Logan's relationship(I did a lot of research and interviews with actual cuckqueans and learned that their fetish doesn't stem from them simply enjoying feeling like shit or a voyeurism where they simply prefer to watch. They feel the full range of emotions that most people feel. It's not a matter of the sadness and jealousy being replaced by happiness and sexual excitement, they experience the full force of their heart being torn apart while at the same time feeling turned on and it is very rough on the psyche to experience both of these emotions at the same time. This in turn can gnaw on the trust and bond between a couple as the cuck gets more aggressive and jealous and/or the s/o feels unwanted by the cuck who is constantly pushing them to be with other partners)

2. The impact Logan has had on the cuckcakes(cuckcake being the term for a female bull in a cuckquean relationship. Before you just kinda had sex with them and having a weird fetish was their biggest problem. Now they will have actual problems that can't be solved simply by having sex a lot)

Plus, I wanted to raise the overall quality of the animations and UI, as they aren't holding up very well.
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As a result, I am placing a lot more emphasis on the quality of the content as opposed to the quantity. And while I won't claim it is the best, in fact it's far from it, I want to at least have it be the best I am capable of if nothing else. Of course, that amount of effort takes time and to be honest I am still trying to hammer out aspects of the story

Here is a screenshot from the original game:
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As you can see the camera angle is a bit weird, the poses are rather static, it is using stock arial font with a weird black box that can't figure out whether it wants to be minimalist or not there. Just overall, it just looks like crap.

Here is the remake. As you can see the person talking has more screen real estate dedicated to them and they are using their whole body in their expression, and the font has some character to it. Also, I removed the text box because WMIY doesn't use character sprites on a static background like most visual novels but each shot is a dedicated image.
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I also changed the characters. Over the seasons I've been making small tweaks to designs to slowly improve their look, but now I get the chance to completely redo the look. Take Molly's evolution for example:
Before she was still very much a stick figure, I said that she was a thicc gurl with massive tits, at the time you kind of had to use your imagination. Now I get the chance to balance it out, she is has more meat on her bones, and her breasts now really tip the scales.
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However, I've modified all of their character models, which range from full make-over to subtle tweaks.

All of the girls have in common that they now have a butt, I gave the breasts more volume as opposed to the long and thin look they had before, and wearing a bra now lifts her breasts up so that they have cleavage.(I didn't discover this was a feature until halfway through S2)

They also have long fingernails and their lips are painted red to give them a bit of definition.
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They also have actual buttholes rather than round red dots, which I felt was important.
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As well as installing a mod that does some fancy shit and that basically makes the dick look like it's penetrating a pussy that is opened rather than simply clipping through her pelvis.
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Individual work you may notice

Sarah's face needed a lot of work
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Molly as explained before, she got a whole body do-over, I was going for thicc without being fat.
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I adjusted Mary's eyes so she doesn't have a permanent puppy-dog eyes and got rid of the blush.
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Despite her supposing to be athletic, she looked more like a gayru. So, I made her a bit taller, a bit bulkier arms, and gave her some muscle definition on her body.
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Karen was mostly perfect, except I gave her some sharper irises and her arms are no longer noodles.
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Emily didn't change much at all, her glasses did need to be fixed, I hadn't noticed earlier but they were actually just chillin a few inches in front of her face. So, now she is actually wearing them now as opposed to simply standing behind them.
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Claire got bigger boobs and I got rid of her blush.
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Just got rid of the blush for Chelsey and she isn't as tall.
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Also, Amy is now 18, so feel free to lewd her, I know I will.
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Outside of characters there is also the environment. For example, the main character and his wife have a bedroom, in the original it looked a bit more like the set of a horror movie than an erotic novel.
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In the remake the room looks much more inviting and colorful.
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Outside of characters there is also the environment. For example, the main character and his wife have a bedroom, in the original it looked a bit more like the set of a horror movie than an erotic novel.
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Agreed. It looked like the punishment room for procrastinating authers that are not going to reach important deadlines normally so they are forced to stay there until they are finished from "A sister is all you need"
 

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Besides the numerous typos, lack of question marks and continuous run-on sentences...

I question the definition of "big, young, and perky breasts" with these being the image presented... they're just as saggy as Molly's... Even if the fantasy and focus is on age...

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A lot of care was put into breasts, unfortunately, I could only do as much as Koikatsu allows. Koikatsu isn't Unity, what it gives in user friendliness and easy of access it takes in customization and options. Some things it will allow, others it will throw back in your face and WMIY has been a constant chain of compromises. Truth be told, I'm not sure if it was a result of this constant compromise or if I just always wanted this, but I have begun to write in a sense of imperfection into all of my character in terms of both looks and personality.

That includes the breasts, which I decided to show the drawbacks of big boobs, which means the effects of weight. The average weight of a single D-E cup breast is about one kilogram or two pounds. For a few days that isn't bad, but after only a few years, something without any sort of support structure like a breast will start to show the effects of gravity. So yes, while Mary isn't as bad as Molly, her chest is still quite large and heavy and without any sort of support structure, even an 18 year old's chest isn't going to be as perky as Molly claims it to be.
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However, another factor is that Molly's chest also isn't actually that bad in the grand scheme of things. For a 44 year old woman she is an absolute bombshell, and I wanted the reader to see for themselves, he isn't really "trading up" compared to Molly and her low opinion of how her body looks is entirely a creation of her own imagination, as is often the case with cucks. I've spoken with hotwives who have told me "my husband is not lacking anywhere inside or outside of the bedroom, but will often encourage me to make fun of his sexual performance and his penis size anyway."

Keep in mind cuckolding doesn't involve losing to a close competitor in a fair match, or they don't want to narrowly lose a love triangle. They want a sense that they never stood a chance, that they were so outclasses in every sense of the word that there is no hope and it is best to simply give up, their partner will be happier, their marriage will be stronger, and it will all end better for them. In that case it becomes a lot easier to simply accept that there is no hope and it's fine to simply relax and escape into fantasy.

That is the reason Molly wants to believe that not just Mary, but all of the girls stand so far out of her league that the most rational solution is for her to step aside, if she feels she has any hope then she has to take responsibility for the fact that she is stepping aside and letting her husband have sex with women for her sexual pleasure rather than his, and if you think that sounds like an unhealthy relationship dynamic, then you know the actual reason why cuckold relationships fail, not because they simply can't get enough of the big dicks. But because they are objectified as porn factories as the husband abandons his responsibility to give his wife the companionship and intimacy that relationships need far more than sex and that the bull could never provide.
 
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Hmm... I wonder if that could be intentional as a foreshadowing of some future conflict? :unsure:
I hope not, I really like how she's slowly convincing him to cheat on her n how that turns her on more for him
Tho some options where the male take initiative n invites a student over would b nice
Myb the wife could get home early on accident
 

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I hope not, I really like how she's slowly convincing him to cheat on her n how that turns her on more for him
Tho some options where the male take initiative n invites a student over would b nice
Myb the wife could get home early on accident
To allay your fears, let's define something first. People seek more than sex in a relationship, it is something NTR authors often forget, that emotional connection. Unless you can meet someone's emotional needs, then the greatest sex in the world isn't going to sway someone. After all, if you're worried about making your wife cum, buy a vibrator, that is how token and hollow "good sex" is.
Right now, Logan only has an emotional connection with Molly and she feels secure that even though she can send him to other girls, they aren't after his heart so he is safe. That is because she is calling the shots on who he sleeps with and when, plus, he continues to give off a hesitant aura and she doesn't feel remotely afraid that some girl is going to take him away. But as Logan gets more used to it, that fine line between "making love" and "cuckquean play" becomes more blurry for Molly and the prospect both excites and terrifies her.
During the Chelsey arc we saw Logan being unsure whether Molly still saw him as her partner and husband or a source of pornography, but he learned that despite her coming out, buried inside that pervert is the Molly he knows and loves. Now it is Molly's turn, she has opened the box and as she sees her husband go along with it she wonders if this was the right decision.

Remember, just because cucks get off on this, doesn't mean they don't get jealous, and every cuck and cuckquean must go through the process of how to channel their jealousy rather than lashing out at their partner. Some take up a hobby, however, some turn it inwards, which is just as bad, and if Logan doesn't notice that Molly has turned her jealousy inwards and is falling into a dark place, it may turn out bad...
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that emotional connection. Unless you can meet someone's emotional needs, then the greatest sex in the world isn't going to sway someone. After all, if you're worried about making your wife cum, buy a vibrator, that is how token and hollow "good sex" is.
Seems true. With the pandemic I deeply dived into what is offered here and I play mostly only for the glorious story. Sex scenes get boring or are at least nice to watch and make my heart warm and my eyes wet.
 

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Remember, just because cucks get off on this, doesn't mean they don't get jealous, and every cuck and cuckquean must go through the process of how to channel their jealousy rather than lashing out at their partner. Some take up a hobby, however, some turn it inwards, which is just as bad, and if Logan doesn't notice that Molly has turned her jealousy inwards and is falling into a dark place, it may turn out bad...
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The differences are numerous, you'll have to settle for a repost because there is a lot to type and there really isn't much variety between the answers.

The original was just kind of a fun thing where I piles a bunch of different fantasy sexy scenes together, tied them with a VERY loosely connected plot, and just put it out there. It had no real direction, no narrative through line in which all of the events were building up to. It was just "here is a bunch of girls that want to have sex, here is your wife who wants you to have sex with them, enjoy." The characters were really never set with any personality before I created them, I just made a cute girl and their personality kind of evolved. It was pretty haphazard.

Good thing about a remake it all of the work I had previously done I can use to map plan things better. This time the characters have set personalities and flaws going in, and I decided to focus the game around character progression. The story will be focused on two main things:

1. The impact of Molly's fetish on her and Logan's relationship(I did a lot of research and interviews with actual cuckqueans and learned that their fetish doesn't stem from them simply enjoying feeling like shit or a voyeurism where they simply prefer to watch. They feel the full range of emotions that most people feel. It's not a matter of the sadness and jealousy being replaced by happiness and sexual excitement, they experience the full force of their heart being torn apart while at the same time feeling turned on and it is very rough on the psyche to experience both of these emotions at the same time. This in turn can gnaw on the trust and bond between a couple as the cuck gets more aggressive and jealous and/or the s/o feels unwanted by the cuck who is constantly pushing them to be with other partners)

2. The impact Logan has had on the cuckcakes(cuckcake being the term for a female bull in a cuckquean relationship. Before you just kinda had sex with them and having a weird fetish was their biggest problem. Now they will have actual problems that can't be solved simply by having sex a lot)

Plus, I wanted to raise the overall quality of the animations and UI, as they aren't holding up very well.
View attachment 1326543

As a result, I am placing a lot more emphasis on the quality of the content as opposed to the quantity. And while I won't claim it is the best, in fact it's far from it, I want to at least have it be the best I am capable of if nothing else. Of course, that amount of effort takes time and to be honest I am still trying to hammer out aspects of the story

Here is a screenshot from the original game:
View attachment 1326545

As you can see the camera angle is a bit weird, the poses are rather static, it is using stock arial font with a weird black box that can't figure out whether it wants to be minimalist or not there. Just overall, it just looks like crap.

Here is the remake. As you can see the person talking has more screen real estate dedicated to them and they are using their whole body in their expression, and the font has some character to it. Also, I removed the text box because WMIY doesn't use character sprites on a static background like most visual novels but each shot is a dedicated image.
View attachment 1326546

I also changed the characters. Over the seasons I've been making small tweaks to designs to slowly improve their look, but now I get the chance to completely redo the look. Take Molly's evolution for example:
Before she was still very much a stick figure, I said that she was a thicc gurl with massive tits, at the time you kind of had to use your imagination. Now I get the chance to balance it out, she is has more meat on her bones, and her breasts now really tip the scales.
View attachment 1326547

However, I've modified all of their character models, which range from full make-over to subtle tweaks.

All of the girls have in common that they now have a butt, I gave the breasts more volume as opposed to the long and thin look they had before, and wearing a bra now lifts her breasts up so that they have cleavage.(I didn't discover this was a feature until halfway through S2)

They also have long fingernails and their lips are painted red to give them a bit of definition.
View attachment 1326549

They also have actual buttholes rather than round red dots, which I felt was important.
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As well as installing a mod that does some fancy shit and that basically makes the dick look like it's penetrating a pussy that is opened rather than simply clipping through her pelvis.
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Individual work you may notice

Sarah's face needed a lot of work
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Molly as explained before, she got a whole body do-over, I was going for thicc without being fat.
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I adjusted Mary's eyes so she doesn't have a permanent puppy-dog eyes and got rid of the blush.
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Despite her supposing to be athletic, she looked more like a gayru. So, I made her a bit taller, a bit bulkier arms, and gave her some muscle definition on her body.
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Karen was mostly perfect, except I gave her some sharper irises and her arms are no longer noodles.
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Emily didn't change much at all, her glasses did need to be fixed, I hadn't noticed earlier but they were actually just chillin a few inches in front of her face. So, now she is actually wearing them now as opposed to simply standing behind them.
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Claire got bigger boobs and I got rid of her blush.
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Just got rid of the blush for Chelsey and she isn't as tall.
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Also, Amy is now 18, so feel free to lewd her, I know I will.
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Outside of characters there is also the environment. For example, the main character and his wife have a bedroom, in the original it looked a bit more like the set of a horror movie than an erotic novel.
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In the remake the room looks much more inviting and colorful.
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I gotta ask, why are there parts where the guys pubes are on the OUTSIDE of his pants? I mean clearly it's not intentional but it's something I've never seen happen before.
 

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I take it the remake means that the originals don't matter anymore?

But if they do:
While playing S3 I encountered a consistent crash (and I rarely to never get crashes normally), and doing a quick search nobody seemed to have encountered a crash/crashes in this thread so far.
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I sometimes can see the next line with a black image for a moment, and if I skip I could get further with new images (though sometimes also black), but after a certain delay the game always crashes.
 
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I gotta ask, why are there parts where the guys pubes are on the OUTSIDE of his pants? I mean clearly it's not intentional but it's something I've never seen happen before.
That has to do with the character creation, the game considers Logan's pubic hair to be separate items that are simply synchronized with the movement of his hips whereas on the women the pubic hairs are just textures that cover the model.

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I take it the remake means that the originals don't matter anymore?

But if they do:
While playing S3 I encountered a consistent crash (and I rarely to never get crashes normally), and doing a quick search nobody seemed to have encountered a crash/crashes in this thread so far.
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I sometimes can see the next line with a black image for a moment, and if I skip I could get further with new images (though sometimes also black), but after a certain delay the game always crashes.
I believe that might be a problem on your end and not something I could fix.
 
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I believe that might be a problem on your end and not something I could fix.
TL;DR: It likely is an issue on my end, I forgot I was using the compressed version.

Like I said, normally Ren'Py games I play rarely to never crash, yet here I have a consistent crash at one very specific location.
I am no Ren'Py expert (far from it), but I decided to check the script since it sits openly there and at least have found the line in the script after which it always crashes:
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The issue is apparently something with "scene kaylaorders 6 with fade", as soon as I replaced it with something else (for example I did 'p "Here it should crash!"') it did not crash and I could continue.
So the issue, even if just for me, seems to be with "scene kaylaorders 6 with fade", or maybe more specifically 'Movie(play="sex_video_57.webm")' since that is what it was defined as in line 2714. Now I would have to test the file, but I don't know how.
But, if I remember correctly, I remember the warning that compressed games have the low chance of crashes, and when I checked the file size of the game folder I realized I forgot I was using the compressed version. Though since I am able to just edit the script and avoid the crash, I guess it is not much of an issue, and if there are more, I could just download the official version then which should likely fix it.
 
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I'm lost is there any reason to play season 1,2,3 separately? to understand the game and story or are they all combined in the remake?

This is just me ranting/venting from here on out, If you don't want to read it don't.

Honestly man this is why I absolutely HATE dev's games that have 40 friken downloads for different episodes/seasons instead of just updating one and same game from time to time. One because it gets confusing for first time non-regulars like me who doesn't know how the dev rolls when he/she says "remake" is it a 4th season? a remake as in all 3 seasons are combined but some parts are altered? and secondly because if I ever do become a regular and come back to this game in the future on a update I won't even remember which season I was on last time. Was it season 1? 2? remake? man honestly if you are a dev just update the same game and keep it all in ONE, a million thanks from me to devs who do that.
 

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TL;DR: It likely is an issue on my end, I forgot I was using the compressed version.

Like I said, normally Ren'Py games I play rarely to never crash, yet here I have a consistent crash at one very specific location.
I am no Ren'Py expert (far from it), but I decided to check the script since it sits openly there and at least have found the line in the script after which it always crashes:
View attachment 1345486
The issue is apparently something with "scene kaylaorders 6 with fade", as soon as I replaced it with something else (for example I did 'p "Here it should crash!"') it did not crash and I could continue.
So the issue, even if just for me, seems to be with "scene kaylaorders 6 with fade", or maybe more specifically 'Movie(play="sex_video_57.webm")' since that is what it was defined as in line 2714. Now I would have to test the file, but I don't know how.
But, if I remember correctly, I remember the warning that compressed games have the low chance of crashes, and when I checked the file size of the game folder I realized I forgot I was using the compressed version. Though since I am able to just edit the script and avoid the crash, I guess it is not much of an issue, and if there are more, I could just download the official version then which should likely fix it.
57? I do recall earlier in the thread someone reported a crashing problem with that video and Joker(the person who did the compression) claimed to have fixed it and I updated the link, you may have also grabbed that file with a corrupted sex_video_57.webm and you need to redownload it for the new version with the video file fixed.
 

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I'm lost is there any reason to play season 1,2,3 separately? to understand the game and story or are they all combined in the remake?

This is just me ranting/venting from here on out, If you don't want to read it don't.

Honestly man this is why I absolutely HATE dev's games that have 40 friken downloads for different episodes/seasons instead of just updating one and same game from time to time. One because it gets confusing for first time non-regulars like me who doesn't know how the dev rolls when he/she says "remake" is it a 4th season? a remake as in all 3 seasons are combined but some parts are altered? and secondly because if I ever do become a regular and come back to this game in the future on a update I won't even remember which season I was on last time. Was it season 1? 2? remake? man honestly if you are a dev just update the same game and keep it all in ONE, a million thanks from me to devs who do that.
Season 1, 2, and 3 were basically sexy stories with a loosely connected plot, I basically came up with the idea for sexy scenes then tried to connect them to the same plot without much regard for where the story was going or internal consistency. It was, in essence, "a porn plot." The remake is an actual story where the sex scenes serve a more coherent narrative with more emphasis placed upon the story.

In seasons 1-3, the sex scenes were written to be as erotic as possible with little regard to character consistency or narrative purpose, whereas in the remake the sex scenes serve the larger narrative with less regard given to how erotic they are.

To say the remake is either a continuation or a summation of the story of the earlier seasons implies that there was a story worth recycling, which there wasn't. While I do pull some of the more memorable scenes from the originals that I felt worth keeping, most of it has been tossed.

That being said, keep in mind, that WMIY:Re is more of a character drama, telling the story of how a new sexual dynamic affects Molly and Logan's relationship rather than the characters trying to go from point A to point B in a character arc. So, if you are just skimming to get through the story or to move from one sex scene to the next, you're going to miss most of the content. Things like pauses, sentence structure, and non-verbal reactions matter much more than what initially seems to be going on. Basically, you need to read between the lines.
 
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