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meluna

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I patiently was waiting for a update that decided to check the game and saw the ONHOLD tag :(
This is one of the few games that i`m genuinely interested in , what happened ? Does anyone know when we can expect an update or what happened for the dev ? I hope he`s fine .
 

ANTagonist

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Season 1, 2, and 3 were basically sexy stories with a loosely connected plot, I basically came up with the idea for sexy scenes then tried to connect them to the same plot without much regard for where the story was going or internal consistency. It was, in essence, "a porn plot." The remake is an actual story where the sex scenes serve a more coherent narrative with more emphasis placed upon the story.

In seasons 1-3, the sex scenes were written to be as erotic as possible with little regard to character consistency or narrative purpose, whereas in the remake the sex scenes serve the larger narrative with less regard given to how erotic they are.

To say the remake is either a continuation or a summation of the story of the earlier seasons implies that there was a story worth recycling, which there wasn't. While I do pull some of the more memorable scenes from the originals that I felt worth keeping, most of it has been tossed.

That being said, keep in mind, that WMIY:Re is more of a character drama, telling the story of how a new sexual dynamic affects Molly and Logan's relationship rather than the characters trying to go from point A to point B in a character arc. So, if you are just skimming to get through the story or to move from one sex scene to the next, you're going to miss most of the content. Things like pauses, sentence structure, and non-verbal reactions matter much more than what initially seems to be going on. Basically, you need to read between the lines.
I'll say, Molly seems to be having a mental beak over her fetish. Poor gal.
 

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Season 1, 2, and 3 were basically sexy stories with a loosely connected plot, I basically came up with the idea for sexy scenes then tried to connect them to the same plot without much regard for where the story was going or internal consistency. It was, in essence, "a porn plot." The remake is an actual story where the sex scenes serve a more coherent narrative with more emphasis placed upon the story.

In seasons 1-3, the sex scenes were written to be as erotic as possible with little regard to character consistency or narrative purpose, whereas in the remake the sex scenes serve the larger narrative with less regard given to how erotic they are.

To say the remake is either a continuation or a summation of the story of the earlier seasons implies that there was a story worth recycling, which there wasn't. While I do pull some of the more memorable scenes from the originals that I felt worth keeping, most of it has been tossed.

That being said, keep in mind, that WMIY:Re is more of a character drama, telling the story of how a new sexual dynamic affects Molly and Logan's relationship rather than the characters trying to go from point A to point B in a character arc. So, if you are just skimming to get through the story or to move from one sex scene to the next, you're going to miss most of the content. Things like pauses, sentence structure, and non-verbal reactions matter much more than what initially seems to be going on. Basically, you need to read between the lines.
Ok, so a little confused here as I was about to start from the beginning. Do I start off with the remake or start with seasons 1-3 and then the remake?
 

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Ok, so a little confused here as I was about to start from the beginning. Do I start off with the remake or start with seasons 1-3 and then the remake?
Nah, treat them as different entities.
Seasons 1-3 are just loose porn with minimal plot, its mostly just an excuse for the fucking to happen with different fetishes.
The remake is an earnest attempt to turn it into an actual game.
 
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Nah, treat them as different entities.
Seasons 1-3 are just loose porn with minimal plot, its mostly just an excuse for the fucking to happen with different fetishes.
The remake is an earnest attempt to turn it into an actual game.
Especially the previous "ending"
 
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jclosed

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There is some activity on Discord.
To summerize, yes, the dev doesn't spent as much time as before on the game, but he is still with us :p
But for how long? Don't get me wrong.. It's not that I feel entitled or anything - Far from that. But it's a little disheartening to see that "On Hold" tag. I really think this is a funny game, and I would hate to see that the "reboot" at the end leads to a abandon.

Frankly - That's why a lot of people see a "reboot" as a red flag. I hope that this black scenario will not become reality, but the signs (does not spend as much time on the game any more) are not positive...
 

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But for how long? Don't get me wrong.. It's not that I feel entitled or anything - Far from that. But it's a little disheartening to see that "On Hold" tag. I really think this is a funny game, and I would hate to see that the "reboot" at the end leads to a abandon.

Frankly - That's why a lot of people see a "reboot" as a red flag. I hope that this black scenario will not become reality, but the signs (does not spend as much time on the game any more) are not positive...
Yes, it's easy to see why that would be the case. However, fact of the matter is I do this for my own enjoyment, I don't collect money for anything because I consider it a hobby, so if it starts to feel more like a job I see no reason to stop. It is "on hold" because I don't know if I will start up, it is fun to create cool scenes and stories, but it is also incredibly time consuming. Keep in mind that the remake as it is already contains over 1200 images, 80 videos, and 17,000 lines of dialogue. That isn't something you bang out in a few hours.
 

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Ok - Fair enough. As long as the VN will not be completely abandoned I feel relieved.
I just wait until new updates will be released in the (near or not) future.
 

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Just stumbled across this and am playing through the remake. It's fantastic so far!

One question: once I'm done playing through the remake - is there any point in playing through the original chapters? I.e. is there any content there that hasn't made it into the remake? Or maybe some of the scenes are different (including dialogue, etc) because they don't have to fit into the overall narrative?
 

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Just stumbled across this and am playing through the remake. It's fantastic so far!

One question: once I'm done playing through the remake - is there any point in playing through the original chapters? I.e. is there any content there that hasn't made it into the remake? Or maybe some of the scenes are different (including dialogue, etc) because they don't have to fit into the overall narrative?
The way it looks and if dev goes with 3 seasons then the remake is only getting starting with season 1, I have not played past season 1 and have not tried the remake at all.
 
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The way it looks and if dev goes with 3 seasons then the remake is only getting starting with season 1, I have not played past season 1 and have not tried the remake at all.
well one of the things people hoped for is to have sex with the daughter, the Dev gave them that. but then he made her older which kinda removes any reason for it (she also looks very much like the mother) he's not bound to any patreon rules tho so who knows in the future.
 

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Just stumbled across this and am playing through the remake. It's fantastic so far!

One question: once I'm done playing through the remake - is there any point in playing through the original chapters? I.e. is there any content there that hasn't made it into the remake? Or maybe some of the scenes are different (including dialogue, etc) because they don't have to fit into the overall narrative?
The remake does contain girls, fetishes, and events that the remake does not have and won't ever cover. Plot wise it isn't spoiling anything because the remake diverges from the original pretty early and never goes back.

well one of the things people hoped for is to have sex with the daughter, the Dev gave them that. but then he made her older which kinda removes any reason for it (she also looks very much like the mother) he's not bound to any patreon rules tho so who knows in the future.
She has been aged because there are rules and moral standards, and having sex with your 8 year old is several orders of magnitude of wrongness. That being said, I don't think anyone wanted to have sex with Amy in her 8 year old form, what they saw was that he had a daughter and were disappointed that I made her 8 years old rather than 18 and having her as a possible cuckcake. So, that is what I did, Amy embodies what Molly sees as the perfect cuckcake, her match in every way aside from the few things that make her better, the superior version of Molly. When creating Amy's model my intention starting out was to create someone as similar to Molly as I could, since Amy was Molly's daughter, it made sense that she would look a lot like her. So, that is what Molly sees Amy as, a girl who has all of Molly's strengths without her weaknesses.
 

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So, some of the sharper eyed individuals among you might have noticed that there has been a short gap in the releases as of recent, this is largely due to the fact that I'm lazy issues with the story. Namely, much like the desired affair, I started a project with a good concept but eventually reached a point where I realized "oh, there actually needs to be a complete story here." While this actually happened during the Chelsey's first arc and it was a constant struggle to get something together. Fact of the matter is there isn't much narrative value in the original, it's unique and has a lot of spicy scenes, but as a story, it is an abysmal failure.
Which is why I threw it away and decided to start over from scratch.(so, I guess it has become more of a reboot at this point)
But I wanted to put a lot more focus on the story and the characters, so I decided to do some research.

Thanks to this VN I ended up becoming an active member of a cuckolding community(not my proudest accomplishment...). I spoke with dozens of people who weren't simply fans of NTR or had heard of it, but people who watched their real life wives and girlfriends sleep with another man right in front of their eyes. I spoke with hotwives, who had sex with numerous men right in front of their boyfriend. And I spoke with many bulls, guys who were supposed to be the "bad guys" of this little story. In the process I learned a lot about all three groups, why they enjoy it, what they think of each other, and just got a general idea of how they thought and what the do's and don'ts are. Using this I made subtle changes to Molly's personality and rewrote her to closer to how an actual cuck might think.

One thing to note, Molly is not actually a cuckquean, she is closer to a female cuck. Just like how men and women experience sex is different, male and female cuckolding is quite different, since I was only lucky enough to speak with one actual cuckquean it was only enough to figure out that cuckqueaning is an entirely different animal and frankly, for a game designed around sex, stuff like "taking another girl out on a date instead of his wife" would sound rather bland. So, I ran Molly through the find-and-replace tool and made her into a female cuck. Then I decided to change the point of the story, at first it was simply to present sexy cuckquean play, but I figured I could instead focus on depicting a couple who engages in consensual cuckolding play. I would lay out the common motivations for why people find cuckolding appealing as well as their inner insecurities. So, if you've ever wondered why people enjoy NTR, this is a good way to learn without the trauma.

So, I had Molly and Logan and knew what I wanted to do but wasn't sure how to go about it, but that didn't stop me with the original so I figured I could just wing it like before, plus I could have alternative routes and... I may have gotten in a bit over my head...
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So, my first order of business was to get rid of the choices and alternative paths. This is a kinetic novel and the choices don't really affect anything aside from some dialogue. While this change did actually have some drawbacks, it also had the bonus of not having to write 2-3 different scenes which are "different" but are there to get a basic premise across to varying degrees of success. For those who hate this change, you're welcome to read all of the other cuckquean visual novels.
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But now that you're sure to meet Sandra it helps a lot with Molly. How? Her husband.
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You'll finally get to meet Sandra's husband who is named Ryan, they are essentially what Molly and Logan will be in a few years, though obviously with the sexes changed. The original plan was her being just one of the cuckcakes, but Sandra has the unique case of being veterans, it was entirely by accident but essentially the main problem with the original is there was no clear cut guidepost of someone more experienced who could progress their relationship. Sandra can help Logan get comfortable with his new role as "for student use only" and Ryan might offer some insight into Molly's mind as a cuck being a man who had years to sort out his feelings then finally deciding to stick with it.

So,. to the question everyone wants to ask: what have I been up to? In short, I've been trying to plan out the story direction more, figure out what everyone's role is going to be, and how I want to write the coming arcs. Unlike with Desired Affair, this is more of a passion project being such an old series I want to finish and I want to make it right. So, I should start making some progress soon. Though, I am looking for any help I can get.
 
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Eh, im all up for a dev that is willing to learn how to improve their script, i wish you the best of lucks.
 
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Oh what a complex narrative we weave. To those long term fans you may remember it was still up in the air on what to do about pregnancy. The answer was: lets just pretend it doesn't exist. Well, the same was true for Kendal, since a femdom wouldn't really work as Logan is not an M and this isn't a femdom story, I decided to change Kendal but I wasn't sure what to do about her, at one point I was considering just dropping her from the plot entirely. But I had an idea, but I'm not quite sure how it will be received.

For those of you who don't know, the reboot is not simply a fun romp through various sexual encounters using cuckquean as a vehicle for creating a harem. This is a realistic depiction of how actual cuckolds and cuckqueans practice it in real life. NTR often depicts bulls as complete psychopaths and womanizers who render a woman incapable of making rational decisions while the cuck just cries and accepts it, unable or more often unwilling to fight back. In reality, people are a bit smarter than that, however, they are not perfect, and if one spends long enough in a fantasy world, you'll start to get rather dumb ideas. It's the dark side of kink play. Not sure if you've noticed my love of submissive women, but I have done real S&M and been a member of several BDSM online communities and a few RP servers. One thing that seems to often crop up is "breeding," where a sub or a Dom would have a fantasy of forcibly impregnating the sub, it ends about as poorly as you'd imagine. The cuckold community is even worse with it and it is the cause of a great number of abortions and more than a few break-ups.

One thing I am trying to make clear in WMIY is that the cuckcakes are not stealing Logan from Molly nor is this a harem. Logan is Molly's husband and she is sharing him with the cuckcakes, but it is more akin to a business transaction than a romance. Just because Molly enjoys being cucked doesn't mean she doesn't experience the same level of envy and jealousy that any other woman would, and in reality holds a very antagonistic view of the cuckcakes. If Logan was to get one of them pregnant, Molly would hate that child and would never honestly welcome the baby or the mother as a member of the family. Knowing Logan, I doubt he would simply abandon a baby or its mother, but Molly would none-the-less be crushed emotionally if it happened. While it might not result in a divorce, the closeness they enjoy now would be irreparably damaged and things would never be the same again.

How has Kendal changed?
So, in addition to a haircut, Kendal has a slight personality change in the reboot: an unwilling tomboy and a switch, due to her tall frame and athletic build, the girls at school call her "The Prince" and treat her like a guy, but while it is fun for them, all Kendal feels is isolation, as a result, despite being getting a lot of affection from the girls, every time she is called handsome is like a painful reminder of her own shortcomings as a woman and sense of isolation. What she wants is to fit in and be a girl, to engage in girl talk about cute boys and hone her femininity until she can find a prince of her own. Upon seeing the pictures online of Logan cucking Molly she can't help but be drawn to it... something about that scenario, about being "more woman" and more desirable than Molly speaks to her deep down, however, due to her past, she absolutely despises cuckolding, which brings up conflicting feelings in her.

So, why does Kendal dislike cuckolding?
Kendal is the result of a fetish taken too far, the end result of Molly's "bigger family" if it ever came to fruition. Her father was the "boyfriend" of her mother, a woman married to a man who had a certain fetish. It was consensual and everything seemed to be going well, he was young and enjoyed the power fantasy of corrupting a white woman while the husband enjoyed watching his wife slowly grow more and more "loyal" to a BBC he could never match. However, this reached a tipping point when for the couple finally wanted a child, while the fantasy of impregnating her had been passed around a few times, with talk of an actual baby for the first time it seriously came into question. The husband suggested they simply continue as they had been doing, but without birth control. Without thinking about it Kendal's father agreed and within no time her belly began to expand due to "the product of superior seed."

The problem was: as time went on, the couple realized the situation they were in. The fantasy was fun but when actually faced with the proposition of raising a bastard child... it wasn't so fun anymore. The wife never once loved Kendal's father, she liked the sex and the taboo, but making it reality was too much. Meanwhile, the husband rejected the idea of raising his child out right. While neither party wanted the baby, it was too late to abort, so they considered just abandoning it in front of an orphanage... Finally, Kendal's father stepped in and took Kendal to raise alone. As for the couple, their marriage didn't last much longer and he no longer has any desire to speak with them. It wouldn't be the last time he played a bull, but in order to never be tempted again he got snipped. When Kendal contacted him about her feelings about Molly and Logan's activities he understood that Kendal might have a bit of an S streak like her father and wasn't about to kink shame her or Molly, however, he warns Logan that Molly's fantasy is NOT her true feelings and suggests either putting the girls on birth control(a very expensive proposition) or getting snipped if he plans on not having any more kids.


EDIT: Disregard that, generally I use the thread for pitching ideas before dedicating hours of my time to ACTUALLY animating something before realizing it is shit. I'm not joking, there was a game I was working on that I had already made 989 images, 30 animations, and 2963 lines of code before I finally gave up on it. So, I'm not exactly married to my ideas...

Some questions I'm sure you have:
1. This is not the "NTR route," Kendal's father comes in to speak with Logan and only speaks with him. He has no contact with any of the other girls in the plot, he tells Kendal's backstory and disappears.
2. After a vasectomy, it is impossible to tell the difference from before without a microscope. The only part of semen made in the balls are the spermatozoa themselves, 99.9% of it is "filler" material excreted from the seminal vesicle and prostate.
3. Due to the longwinded nature of this story it will most likely include adult content featuring cuckolding but it is not designed to be sex scenes. Kendal's father will recall events matter of factly with the majority of the focus on the mistakes he made and the origin of Kendal.
4. So, Chelsey was raped and Kendal is an unwanted bastard, are all of the girls' backstories this fucked up? In short, no, in long:
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Well, i'm generally not a fan of any male characters and dont think that ryan content will be anything i could like. The old game(s) were good so far except for the short ends of the last girls, especially the pale one ^^
Since i'm not a cuck i dont know if a deeper view in it would be my thing...however, you said you changed the quckqueen ingame, check out your signature ^^

The second post is currently too long, i'll read it later.
 
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