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JJsworld

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I think it has to do with patreon... Thinking a year or two ago, they started the game developers to have atleast 2 games... Was playing DMD at the time, and the creator had to start a second game, to avoid them dropping it... We were getting regular updates, then it switched to about 3 or 4 months between. Some creators also work a real job, so that also cuts into the prep time. I myself know of this, because I am creating an Adult Visual Novel, which is taking far longer than I expected. 4 months and only 350 renders, not to mention the 3000 lines of coding, in Ren'py... Not to mention you always have to proof read, make changes, because of the mistakes that are made in Engrish, lol... So let's give the developers a little leadway...
 

EXN

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yes! you should do one game at time!

(so I can complain that you abandoned one! :Kappa:)
 

Darth Sidious

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There is a reason why I decided to stop with these "oversized" 35k words chapters until I can do them in 2 months.
And besides that, I got the 2nd PC.

But for some reason, people always tend to forget what was said 1-2 Pages ago.
Most people just don't read 1-2 pages back :ROFLMAO: Ah if only F95zone had a pin-message function, eh?
 

Darth Sidious

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I really dont get it, why develop two games at same time ? why not finish first then go to second one ? and if I remember correctly, you says you gonna help your friend that develop SG, then you took over all development of SG, am i right? So why when you have Wiab , start second project ?
yes! you should do one game at time!

(so I can complain that you abandoned one! :Kappa:)
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Darth Sidious

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im not complaining about the delay that oceanlab iss going through or anything but instead stating my opinion. But would making two games at once be better suited for a team instead of one single person?
You know what the problem is with having only one game to look after?

1. Will only cater to the same type of audience.
2. Long inactivity period when the one game is finished in order to transition to the next. May lose supporters during this time.
3. Limited business potential & Continuity. If you do not branch out, you will barely grow.

Note how Summer's Gone is entirely different from Where it All Began. Yes certainly, having an empire of loyal servants behind you will vastly increase your productivity, but in order to achieve said empire you need Passion, Strength, Power, Victory and.. Oh ye, MONEY!
 

Qwert99

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2. Long inactivity period when the one game is finished in order to transition to the next. May lose supporters during this time.
This point is a little ridiculous considering there's been a very long period without any updates to either game exactly because of him working on two games. Additionally, if people only like one of the two games it's even longer.
 

Ayhsel

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You know what the problem is with having only one game to look after?

1. Will only cater to the same type of audience.
2. Long inactivity period when the one game is finished in order to transition to the next. May lose supporters during this time.
3. Limited business potential & Continuity. If you do not branch out, you will barely grow.

Note how Summer's Gone is entirely different from Where it All Began. Yes certainly, having an empire of loyal servants behind you will vastly increase your productivity, but in order to achieve said empire you need Passion, Strength, Power, Victory and.. Oh ye, MONEY!
"Peace is a lie. There is only Passion.
Through Passion I gain Strength.
Through Strength I gain Power.
Through Power I gain Victory.
Through Victory my chains are Broken.
Money shall free me"

That is one way to tell the sith code.

I don't know if you guys have seen it but there were updated news about Summer's Gone with Nami looking even more breathtaking (had no idea that was possible). In the news he acknowledges that WIAB update is not finished yet. Honestly, I prefer Summer's Gone over WIAB but he kept insisting that both stories are intertwined and the way he spoke about it it always seemed to me that WIAB was his main focus.

Luckily, it will only be a few more days... My guess is that if he is working on Summer's gone (I remember reading up to chapter 8 are already written), the WIAB is probably being tested or under very small details missing...

Wait and hope.
 

Darth Sidious

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This point is a little ridiculous considering there's been a very long period without any updates to either game exactly because of him working on two games. Additionally, if people only like one of the two games it's even longer.
You missed the point then, because I didn't say update inactivity, I said transitioning from one game to the other with the first game ending. Basically that means the new game will have to be written, fleshed out, producing a demo, bug tested and a new production plan has to be made. During that time people have no reason to keep supporting, at least until all this is settled. Having multiple games going will slow production on all games for sure, which will also keep supporters and fans from all the games waiting in a hopeful state. We are the living proof, as we keep moaning about a release date here. Meanwhile the Supporters will continue to pay and so the projects are allowed to flourish.

Are you saying, additionally, Summer's Gone does not have fans? :p
 

Euron13

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I don’t know that that logic entirely flies. Summer's Gone has already started, the basis for it already exists and it wouldn’t need to be rewritten and the pre-existing work wouldn’t need to be redone, so any time between the ending of one game and the beginning of the next wouldn’t be as significant as you’re making out.
 
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Qwert99

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You missed the point then, because I didn't say update inactivity, I said transitioning from one game to the other with the first game ending. Basically that means the new game will have to be written, fleshed out, producing a demo, bug tested and a new production plan has to be made. During that time people have no reason to keep supporting, at least until all this is settled. Having multiple games going will slow production on all games for sure, which will also keep supporters and fans from all the games waiting in a hopeful state. We are the living proof, as we keep moaning about a release date here. Meanwhile the Supporters will continue to pay and so the projects are allowed to flourish.

Are you saying, additionally, Summer's Gone does not have fans? :p
By that logic WIAB fans have no reason to keep supporting during the last 7 months either. It's a way longer time period than it takes to make a quick demo for a new game.

And why would Summer's Gone not have fans..? They're gonna be mad while WIAB is being reworked and there won't be any Summer's Gone content for half a year. 4+ months have already passed for that as well.
 
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Any ETA or news?
According to dev post on his patreon page he has already finished work with update on 9th May.. And now it's under polishing and testing work from last 10 days.. may be soon or later we will have good news..
I hope so.. fingers crossed :censored::censored:
 
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