VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[jaw1986baby]

I saw June 13th in the OP and I got excited.... LOL WHOOPS
Happy anniversary!

 

[Mrblack]

I think this Game is Dead , It's unfortunate because it was a beautiful masterpiece

 

[Deleted member 327695]

I like the confidence and drive to make working on 2 games at once work, but I'll believe it when I see it. There is a reason hardly any devs do more than 1 game at a time, and the ones that do work on more either have teams or their games are simple. This situation obviously doesn't apply to either of those things.

Working at your maximum output consistently isn't realistic. You may be able to make 40 renders per day... on some days. Doing that every day isn't reasonable. To compare it to something completely different. A star basketball player may be able to score 50 points at their best, but they just average 25 normally. Applying this to developing a game, you may be able to do 40 renders on your best days, but you average just 20 renders per day.

Increasing your average to 25 is far more likely and realistic than getting 40 every day. Simplifying the process ( and the renders themselves) would help to accomplish this, but you aren't the type that'd accept B+ or A- quality when you want A+ quality. Most people don't notice the difference, but you do.

I feel like you're setting yourself up to be burnt-out. You aren't a machine, you're never going to be perfectly optimized.

This is what happened with Chapter 3. I was on a bad road there. Doing a sprint instead of a marathon.

The 30-35 renders a day is the "normal day" average without going full burnout.

I am capable of doing 50-60 if I'd focus 16h. But this would be retarded. I am aiming to be a long-time dev.

Out of curiosity, how much NTR content is there? Just to see if it's worth turning it on/off

Better turn it off if you don't want to see/risk it.

At the beginning of the reworked WiAB, there is pretty much no NTR- (except for some open relationship talk with Miru.) But it increases over time.

I am fairly certain he's going to get burnt out if he keeps them both going. In fact it appears he already may be. I doubt he'll be able to manage even a 6 month schedule for updates for either game let alone 2-3 months like he said. It doesn't work like that. I think DPC and Philly are very professional and even they can't get updates out within 2-3 months.

No, doing both games is one of the reasons I will not burn out.
If I am sick of SG- I go and render WiAB and vice versa.

On top of that, "I am going to get rid of my bad habits and stop procrastinating" just doesn't happen overnight. You can't just push through those things. That's not how mental health works.

I've been working on this for many many months now. I am not an idiot and think I can just change everything from one day to the other.
If you read some of my posts here and in the SG thread, there I am talking about how I am slowly adjusting it all. (Also in the Patreon posts.)

I think this Game is Dead , It's unfortunate because it was a beautiful masterpiece

It's being nursed back to health by my own tiddy.





But no matter what I say, it won't change anyone's mind.
This means I'll just keep improving until my words have weight again.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

This is what happened with Chapter 3. I was on a bad road there. Doing a sprint instead of a marathon.

The 30-35 renders a day is the "normal day" average without going full burnout.

I am capable of doing 50-60 if I'd focus 16h. But this would be retarded. I am aiming to be a long-time dev.







Better turn it off if you don't want to see/risk it.

At the beginning of the reworked WiAB, there is pretty much no NTR- (except for some open relationship talk with Miru.) But it increases over time.



No, doing both games is one of the reasons I will not burn out.
If I am sick of SG- I go and render WiAB and vice versa.



I've been working on this for many many months now. I am not an idiot and think I can just change everything from one day to the other.
If you read some of my posts here and in the SG thread, there I am talking about how I am slowly adjusting it all. (Also in the Patreon posts.)





It's being nursed back to health by my own tiddy.





But no matter what I say, it won't change anyone's mind.
This means I'll just keep improving until my words have weight again.

Keep on keeping on, Ocean. Slow, fast, shit will be done when its done. You doing good, bud.

 

[mommysboiii]

Better turn it off if you don't want to see/risk it.

At the beginning of the reworked WiAB, there is pretty much no NTR- (except for some open relationship talk with Miru.) But it increases over time.

I personally like NTR and if I like for example miru and I turn NTR on will I only see NTR if I agree too something (open relationships/swinging ) in the future? because thats not really NTR for me its more about a slow suffer too lose your loved one infront of your eyes (thats why I think good writting is so important with NTR and that we sadly dont have much or any good games with NTR content because its not easy too write )villians that are good written,going too the wrong partys and so on..or the pision scene I love that one but I think it had so much wastet potential and it was so short.

 

[notakernelguy]

Can we get any estimation for both games, Oceanlab ? July or later?

 

[Deleted member 327695]

I personally like NTR and if I like for example miru and I turn NTR on will I only see NTR if I agree too something (open relationships/swinging ) in the future? because thats not really NTR for me its more about a slow suffer too lose your loved one infront of your eyes (thats why I think good writting is so important with NTR and that we sadly dont have much or any good games with NTR content because its not easy too write )villians that are good written,going too the wrong partys and so on..or the pision scene I love that one but I think it had so much wastet potential and it was so short.

I do not see it as NTR either, but I am not so sure yet if I want to make the open relationship possible on the Non-NTR mode. NTR is a direct consequence of a badly managed/out-of-control open relationship.

But I probably will do it without the consequence on the Non-NTR mode. (The girl can still break up with you, tho.)

In general, all sex scenes in the old WiAB suck. They are too short- too bland, etc.

Can we get any estimation for both games, Oceanlab ? July or later?

Rule #1: Never give an estimate until the update is done.

Close tho.

 

[TheReDeeMeR]

Can we get any estimation for both games, Oceanlab ? July or later?

I think it will be this year. So don't worry.

 

[Deleted member 2528490]

Oceanlab can we have some teasers, while it come out please?

Go back a buncha pages. He's released several.

 

[RTZ8686]

I do not see it as NTR either, but I am not so sure yet if I want to make the open relationship possible on the Non-NTR mode. NTR is a direct consequence of a badly managed/out-of-control open relationship.

But I probably will do it without the consequence on the Non-NTR mode. (The girl can still break up with you, tho.)

In general, all sex scenes in the old WiAB suck. They are too short- too bland, etc.



Rule #1: Never give an estimate until the update is done.

Close tho.

Really like pregnancy option though especially when choosing 50:50 chance, so realistic. Hope you could keep this in the new version.

*that broken condom is also providing more realistic atmosphere that is nor offered in other game.

Keep up the great work Ocean!

 

[FaneGhetambarai]

There is some sex scenes with Dana or something?

 

[Zane Truesdale]

There is some sex scenes with Dana or something?

Not yet, but I'm not sure, the last time I played this one was a long time ago. I'm only 80% sure.

 

[modo200]

There is some sex scenes with Dana or something?

no there is no sex scene with her yet

 

[Darth Vengeant]

"Years have passed. Things have changed."

Considering it's been a year since this game was updated....how ironic that text is in the description. lol.

Still, I think visually this game is still one of the best. Hope it continues and is eventually updated....

 

[Smarmint]

You're speaking from a consumer perspective, I speak from the perspective of someone who has found a creative outlet. A way to express himself and take others on the road with him.

You're saying I am batshit crazy.
But I am having a really good time and I have had more fun developing the last two months than the entire year of 2020.

I think the only good thing I can tell you is that the day will come when my habits and determination are aligned.

Ocean, thanks for the status update, really. Most devs see page after page of "where is the update?" or "is this is abandoned?", and just tune out and go away. So, I appreciate you being straight with all of us. You were are very honest with what you are facing and what is the cause of your delays, much more than most devs, and that should be applauded. You could have just said you had unspecified medical problems, family issues, or some other vague excuse like needing to refactor your code or something, and disappeared for 6 months like many, many, devs do around here. But, by explaining where you are at, and how it is a combination of hardware issues, day to day motivation, distractions, etc, is really refreshing.

I think anybody that works from home, totally understands where you are coming from. There are so many distractions, that those of us that are prone to being distracted, have a million things vying for our attention instead of work. It is not easy to sit at a desk for 6, 8, 10, hours and just focus on work all day, when you could be doing anything else. I for one, completely understand.

Ultimately, I hope that you are proud of yourself for making 2 of the best games on the site, and the quality increase has been amazing. Sure, working on one game is quicker, probably, but which do you cut? On this thread, obviously, most want you to abandon Summer's Gone. On the SG thread, of course, people say that WIAB is a waste of time.

You do what you think is best. You aren't the first dev to work on more than one game to keep his motivation up.

All of those that give you advice on development, what schedule you should work at, what you should work on, etc, etc, they have no idea. It is not like you are calculating spreadsheets all day, developing a game take creativity, an artistic mind, meticulous skill, and internal motivation, that isn't easy to do every day, like clockwork.

Whether it takes 3 months, or 6 months, or longer, well, you are doing very high quality work, pretty much by yourself, I understand, so great job. I hope that it remains rewarding for you over time, and that you see both games through to the end, because they are both wonderful, a lot of fun to play, and you have a devoted audience of fans and supporters who love to play each update, whenever they come out.

The important thing is to keep having fun. It is your life, after all, and it would be a shame to let yourself get burned out. If you can enjoy what you do, you are luckier than most.

 

[horankao]

It pretty good, I think you writing really improved as it progressed and quite quickly. Some of Miru stuff at the very start about Asian and White man was bit off for me but a lot of good effort came quite quickly after that. I ain't a fan of more recent games using Rape as a game mechanic but this is well put together.

I really have not come across a woman character like Lisa in the various games I played, she is so cruel and awful when she smiles when Miru has left and how she knew what Katie wanted and still bullied her and so many others. Really nasty piece of work that I truly hate.

Could do with way more Helen stuff because she is like the most beautiful render seen in all these games lmao, the writing is pretty good and frankly several of the lady characters are actually really well constructed. Dana is great. So yeah, I know you said it isnt gonna have a harem ending which I am fine with as long as we can have sexual encounters with pretty much all of them including Gina mum HEHEHE

So my two eager awaiting things would be Gina's Mum and Helen scenes and encounters

 

[8464856348]

It should have just kept going the way it was instead of getting redone and it would probably be done by now

 

[mommysboiii]

It should have just kept going the way it was instead of getting redone and it would probably be done by now

maybe you can do your own game at the sam quality in terms of writing and renders and do monthly updates or all 3 - 4 month than you will see how fast you are

 

[8464856348]

maybe you can do your own game at the sam quality in terms of writing and renders and do monthly updates or all 3 - 4 month than you will see how fast you are

Still should had just kept going

 

[Meghead]

Oh god, the first girl you see, and what should i do? decline her of course, i came here for story, not to fap. Damn, i already love this game. I wonder how many girls you can skip.