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sorco2003

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Oh, the Scarlet Scandal! I don't really mind Scarlet being younger than Helen. It isn't uncommon for siblings to be 10 years or more removed in age. My daughter and her younger sister were born almost 18 years apart. But if the game keeps the mom fetish from the original it may not play as well into it. Still, a good-looking model. Scarlet's story in the original game kind of ended with an evil shrug, so I am curious to see where this new game will take her.
The problem is not the age difference between Helen and Scarlet, the problem is that Scarlet still has two children who are at least 18 years old....
 
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NewTricks

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The problem is not the age difference between Helen and Scarlet, the problem is that Scarlet still has two children who are at least 18 years old....
Not a problem if she popped them out when she was a teen. The model could still pass for early 30's with Helen in her late 40's.
 

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I didn't get any blue balls through out the entire playthrough...not even once...maybe a couple of hard-ons, it is full of building relations for now...and the MC is not unlikable or asshole, he went through some big shit and is recovering and healing those still deep wounds from the past. It a game of healing if you will.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. It is not to my taste. It is like "Come for the hot girls with big tits, stay for the crushing depression and existentialist ennui." The girls are great, but the MC is a garbage person who is cruel to other characters even when you make kind choices. Maybe at the end of his arc, he will have "healed" enough to treat other humans with dignity and respect but for now, I just hate spending time in his skin. It makes me feel gross.
 

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The rework has been a success for some characters undeniably, but Scarlett is a definite miss for me. This new Scarlett is too young, not a milf. I even found Ch6 Scarlett hotter than the reworked one. Her character was shallow but her looks were more clearly convincing. While I don't doubt that Ocean's storytelling will help make the new Scarlett convincing as well after she gets screen time, I don't think very credible to have a character who looks under 35 to be the mother of at least one adult, and we have way more young characters than milfs already.
 

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The rework has been a success for some characters undeniably, but Scarlett is a definite miss for me. This new Scarlett is too young, not a milf. I even found Ch6 Scarlett hotter than the reworked one. Her character was shallow but her looks were more clearly convincing. While I don't doubt that Ocean's storytelling will help make the new Scarlett convincing as well after she gets screen time, I don't think very credible to have a character who looks under 35 to be the mother of at least one adult, and we have way more young characters than milfs already.
totally agreed
also, I was hoping a more convincing new version of mc's father
not that is bad, but I don't know, his design feels kind of weird to ME I don't know what everyone else's might think about this
 

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Yeah I think Scarlett’s redesign is really big fumble. Chapter 6 had the sweet spot of her being attractive whilst still looking realistically like an older woman. New design doesn’t capture that and it’s actually kind of boring.
 

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Oceanlab NEVER had a miss for me personally. I said before that he by far has the most beautiful women of any game.
Unfortunatelly i have to agree here with everyone else. New Scarlet looks too young, she definitely doesnt look like a MILF, she is suppose to be around Helens age but could easily pass as her daughter, on top of that she kinda looks bland.
Old Scarlet looked way more appealing to me personally. Seriously i think he could have just updated ch. 6 Scarlet and it would have worked perfectly. We have a lot of young characters in the game we need more defyning MILFs. Ch. 6 Scarlet looked like a trophy wife, like some rich dude married her back when she was a model in her twenties and shes now in her 40's. The new one looks like a girl from a liberal arts college on her way to get another pumpkin spice latte with that goofy oversized hat. Its a shame but even Oceanlab isnt perfect. With that said its just 1 female i can skip. Hopefully the other girls are up to the usual Oceanlab standard.
 
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I'd say if the goal is to make Scarlet look closer to Helen's age, if he can do something maybe with her facial skin just to not make it look like a 20 year old's that would probably go a long way. Some women can have a rockin' bod into their 40s and even 50s if they work at it, so the body isn't that unbelievable it's just that the face looks like a 20 year old college girl, so maybe find a way to "age" the face a bit to look more like a 40 y/o and that will probably help a good bit.

Also a side question for folks who are familiar with this game as I never played the original...so Helen is the mom of the MC, and then Scarlet is supposed to be her sister?

Who is Daphne exactly?

And Leia is biological sister (with the incest patch?)?

Sounds like there's gonna be a bunch of characters in this one so I'm trying to familiarize. :)
 

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I'd say if the goal is to make Scarlet look closer to Helen's age, if he can do something maybe with her facial skin just to not make it look like a 20 year old's that would probably go a long way. Some women can have a rockin' bod into their 40s and even 50s if they work at it, so the body isn't that unbelievable it's just that the face looks like a 20 year old college girl, so maybe find a way to "age" the face a bit to look more like a 40 y/o and that will probably help a good bit.

Also a side question for folks who are familiar with this game as I never played the original...so Helen is the mom of the MC, and then Scarlet is supposed to be her sister?

Who is Daphne exactly?

And Leia is biological sister (with the incest patch?)?

Sounds like there's gonna be a bunch of characters in this one so I'm trying to familiarize. :)
Yes, Helen and Scarlet are sisters.
Daphne is a new character.
Leia would be sister of the MC.
And I agree with your assessment about Scarlet's appearance.
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Dragon59

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Not much of a description:

Overview:
After a traumatic experience, a young spirit tries to find its way back into life. College is about to start and mysteries are about to unfold.
I didn't realize this was a supernatural game about a disembodied spirit trying to live again. So is it Summer who is trying to find a body to animate?
 

NewTricks

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I didn't realize this was a supernatural game about a disembodied spirit trying to live again. So is it Summer who is trying to find a body to animate?
I think that in this sense "spirit" is used in its uncommon definition of being an individual, not a ghost. I think it could be phrased better and if I was editing it I would have put "BW" over it. It is referring to the MC, who has been a shut-in for years after his prepubescent crush left, disappeared, died, etc. Now he is being hit in the face with a tidal wave of pussy but is still a miserable bastard. Have fun!
 
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Agrik

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The sad trend to remake famous games continues. :cry:
Terrible looking new MC (doll face and tattoo on the whole arm), handsome Miru, who completely changes your attitude towards other characters, a snake in a bag, a snake around his neck (I don’t like snakes since childhood).
I don't think I'll be waiting for a sequel. :censored:
It's a good thing I didn't see this before - last year was a sad one anyway.
 

Cabin Fever

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I have to agree with most here. New Scarlet looks too young. And maybe this is just my silly opinion, but if lighting makes that much of a difference, then Scarlet simply wasn't "aged" enough to begin with. For example, you don't see anybody saying that Helen didn't look old enough in any lighting conditions.

And that "high-end couture meet modern witch" hat and dress, it's just not age- & situation-appropriate. I think that also contributed greatly to the new Scarlet problem. Put it on Leia, it's "Va-va-vroom, I'm sexy bitch!". Put it on Scarlet, it's "I'm a stupid cougar that still wears a red-carpet dress to a backyard home barbeque!" Yikes!
 

NeroZee

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Yes, Helen and Scarlet are sisters.
Daphne is a new character.
Leia would be sister of the MC.
And I agree with your assessment about Scarlet's appearance.
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Once again i have to preface that i love Oceanlabs games, i have nothing against the developer at all. Butttt......... this seems like a big cope... I dont think "light conditions" are gonna do anything to change the fact that she at the very most looks maybe around 30 years old... and that's if i am being very charitable, while Helen could easily pass of as being in her early 40's or at least late 30's.
But beyond just that she looks bland... I mean if these 2 women stood next to each other, i wouldn't even notice Scarlett was there.
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Lets be real with one another, she can wear the lowest V cut shirt in existence and she still looks like a peasant next to a Queen. Once again not trying to harp on Ocean or anything, it's just weird because as i said many times before out of all the developers out there he is the only one that has made me LOVE every single girl he has ever designed in Summers Gone, like every single one looks breathtaking and i was expecting the same with WITB once he started redoing them and it was going like that so far but here it was a total miss IMO. I think the game is kind of missing a proper "cougar" MILF that is a bit more "naughty" and open about things than her sister which Scarlett was suppose to be. Kind of a shame really, also changing her from blonde was another big mistake IMO.
 
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NewTricks

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For those who hate the snake, I don't think that you will have to worry about seeing him again. I think that he was just there to show that the MC likes snakes and from Leia's jewelry she likes them too. It is a visual shorthand for how similar they are even though they have spent so much time apart. Plus, if MC cheats on her Miru will probably eat him.
 
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