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bebiho

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For someone who hasnt played this game, is there even that big of difference between the remake and the old version?

Asking the question to know what version to choose... not really looking forward for the waiting, might aswell go for the old version
 

Machete

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This is a problem now with devs, it's getting pretty bad. The majority of them are being lazy and coming up with the same excuses over and over again just to milk people for money.
It's always a question of marketing dynamics. If patreon keep funding devs who slow down their output, there is no need to keep the output steady. On the contrantrary, it would be counterproductive to speed it up.
 

UncleFredo

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Graphically yes, story wise it remains to be seen.
Opinions vary and I'm just expressing mine. That said I found the writing in the reworked chapter far tighter, better paced, with a much more natural flow, especially with regard to dialog, than the original material. Now if you are saying we need to see if that trend holds up, I completely agree, but I find the current improvement encouraging.
 

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I think...Miru is far less of a cartoon character and Helen’s interactions with the MC are better in this version.

But I feel like it’s two steps forward one step back, with the MC himself sort being weirdly exaggerated and more anime-esq in this version.
 

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I think...Miru is far less of a cartoon character and Helen’s interactions with the MC are better in this version.

But I feel like it’s two steps forward one step back, with the MC himself sort being weirdly exaggerated and more anime-esq in this version.
mmm...maybe not wrong with that. I just really like the way things are going with all the women, especially Miru.

Also, I'm not against an anime interpretation. I love anime. It often brings out emotions better than anything else. I dunno. I was very critical about this rework, but I really like it.
 
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I don’t dislike anime either, (Attack on Titan right now :love:) but I feel like the new version doesn’t quite mesh together that side of things with how overly dramatic and philosophical it’s trying to be.
 

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I have a general question since I never played the original game - is there quite a bit of incest in this game? (I don't have a problem with that at all as I've always liked bro / sis stuff, just curious)
 

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I agree with others that graphically, the reworked version (Chapter 1) is really well done. However, I am in two minds about Miru... her new look is wonderful, but she doesn't appear to have any asian features (and no mention of her degree!!!) which is disappointing; again, I must stress that I find the new look Miru very attractive, but you see what I saying?
 

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I have a general question since I never played the original game - is there quite a bit of incest in this game? (I don't have a problem with that at all as I've always liked bro / sis stuff, just curious)
By Patreon rules that is something the developer can no longer say. I didn't get there in the first release, but reading the thread a bit in the early days, you could say that the original idea is written to have incest, and that's why the incest patch fits so well.
And the patch in the early days was written by Ocean himself.
 

Cabin Fever

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By Patreon rules that is something the developer can no longer say. I didn't get there in the first release, but reading the thread a bit in the early days, you could say that the original idea is written to have incest, and that's why the incest patch fits so well.
And the patch in the early days was written by Ocean himself.
If by first release you meant the original story before the re-work, then I vague recall that the story did get there with Katie in the van & Leia after the dinner date. But it's been a long while so I could very well be wrong. Now obviously, it required patching to make it so instead of just between very close people that grew up together.
 
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If by first release you meant the original story before the re-work, then I vague recall that the story did get there with Katie in the van & Leia after the dinner date. But it's been a long while so I could very well be wrong. Now obviously, it required patching to make it so instead of just between very close people that grew up together.
I was referring to version 0.1, I knew the game when it was already 0.4. But yes, in version 0.6 (which had already split the story in two, 0.1 to 0.4 old timeline, 0.5 and 0.6 new timeline) there you already had scenes with Katie and Leia (although if I remember correctly Leia's relationship with the MC was already known before).
 

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I was referring to version 0.1, I knew the game when it was already 0.4. But yes, in version 0.6 (which had already split the story in two, 0.1 to 0.4 old timeline, 0.5 and 0.6 new timeline) there you already had scenes with Katie and Leia (although if I remember correctly Leia's relationship with the MC was already known before).
I thought the entire old work, including 0.5 & 0.6 have now been thrown out because even the plot in those 2 releases don't quite fit well in with where Ocean wants to take the story?
 

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I thought the entire old work, including 0.5 & 0.6 have now been thrown out because even the plot in those 2 releases don't quite fit well in with where Ocean wants to take the story?
Yes, in those days Ocean wanted to redo the first four chapters to match with 5 and 6, but finally decided to do it all over again, only keeping the keypoints.
 

Razrback16

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Thanks guys, ya just the tone of things seems to fit some of the incest tropes perfectly so figured I'd ask to make sure I wasn't mis-reading. Enjoyed CH1, looking forward to more.
 

Machete

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Thanks guys, ya just the tone of things seems to fit some of the incest tropes perfectly so figured I'd ask to make sure I wasn't mis-reading. Enjoyed CH1, looking forward to more.
All the people in the childwood enviroment are childwood acquaintances, of course. There is no incest content in this game (unless you download the uncernsored patch) COUGH COUGH COUGH!
 

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Hello,

So, welcome to the next Dev Log


The last Dev Log was quite a bit controversial due to the changes I made to Scarlet.
And I expected this.

I'm a person that tends to overthink. And that's pretty much what happened with Scarlet. At first, I was like "She looks too young."
Then I was like "Stop overthinking, Ocean."... But what if I was right?
So I made the decision to not do any more renders with her until I got some feedback that either support my thoughts about her looking too young or her being mature enough.
I personally am a huge mature/milf fan and so I just had to go back and change her again. (Gladly, I didn't do any more renders with her.)
The second new version I created just didn't do it for me. That wasn't Scarlet. It felt wrong.
So I did go back to what felt right and left some parts of Scarlet untouched. But changed others quite drastically.
To refresh your memory... Here's the old Scarlet from various chapters.

Chapter 2
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Chapter 3
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Chapter 6
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In Chapter 6 she had a visual upgrade.
So, for the new new one, I custom sculpted her body and changed her hair again. Did some small skin and material changes and that was it. This Scarlet just feels like Scarlet... But I still had to do some changes to make her fit more to her updated personality and story. (4k version attached.)

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While the old Scarlet always embedded some sort of Rocker theme, the new one needed some "classy" drops.
With the next Dev Logs, I will show some actual in-game renders with the new model.

2. Zoey and Katie
Now we get to the next point of today's Log.
Two other well-known characters will be previewed.
I did preview Katie before and she didn't get changed much. Zoey on the other hand got a full-out rework.
In the old WiAB, I wanted to start Zoey's story much MUCH later. Which was a big mistake because a major story point would've started way too late.
In the new WiAB, Zoey's story will begin within the next two chapters and quite some lore will be dropped on you.
Let's get to some visuals. First the old ones.

Old Katie (Chapter 3)
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Old Zoey (Chapter 3. Warning: Nightmare inducing.)

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Both together (Chapter 6)

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One thing I always hated about Zoey was her weird body. She had huge tits, a super narrow hip, and a big ass.

I had already previewed her with these two renders:

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Her body got custom sculpted and reworked her skin map.
Here is an actual Chapter 2 in-game render.

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There's one issue I still have with her and it's the SSS (Subsurface Scattering.) I will work on that while I go through the update.

Now Zoey... Good old Zoey... She gave me quite the headache and I tried a lot of different variations.
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The new Zoey changed quite a lot.

Besides the obvious hair and skin material changes, I also changed her body.
She's now thicker and a little chubbier. I will preview some actual body shots of her in the upcoming logs.
And her personality also got updated. She still has some things from the old Zoey but she's way less "Sexual for the sake of being sexual."

So yeah, I guess that was it.

All new renders are available in High res at the bottom to download.

Take Care!

- Ocean
:)
 
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