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what...exactly...are you trying to ask? what other cringefest? We don't know what you're talking about without some details. and why does it matter? This thread is about Where it all Began..again.
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Never played the original and just completed the chapter 1 of the rework. Absolutely loved it. Not many games where the MC is a chad. Looking forward to see more
- Oct 17, 2019
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dont know about the chad part does mc look good YES but ocean is not so one dimesonal like other games so can you play mc as a chad/dougebag probably but I am pretty sure that you can play other ways too 
I think he’s referring to "summers gone” but I don’t understand how that game is a “cringefest”
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You seriously came here complaining about a game to another game's thread?
- Jun 11, 2021
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2 years? How about 10 years lol okay maybe I'm exaggerating...or not who knows but it will definitely take alot longer than two years given the quality of this game and the fact that he has another game with the same quality he's also currently working on.. Oh and don't forget about the fact that Ocean have at least 2 more games he's planning to work on in the future so I'd say we'd be be lucky to even get 1 update a year once he starts working on the other 2 as well.
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Finally, I played the reworked version, and it felt discombobulating. I don't know if this reworked chapter is supposed to be a blueprint framework to work with and add stuff later, but many of the events felt disjointed. Going to say if it weren't for me playing the previous versions of the game multiple times, and because of that being able to fill in many blanks and questions presented by the current rework, I wouldn't have been able to enjoy this nearly as much. The game would have just given me too much rigid plot to gloss over and leave me unable to take in the well-written dialogue, which is unsurprisingly just as good as I remember. The models have improved, and most notably, Miru now looks like someone who will actually give you a moment of pause for consideration before you decide to throw her to the hounds. The MC, on the other hand, went from the default faceless Chad model to a somewhat of a cross between a bearded gipsy lady that is about to read your palm and Chris Angel a magician that's about to do some card tricks. Both pleasing and amusing in their own way.
- Apr 7, 2020
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Well, it's still a first chapter. It's supposed to be somewhat mysterious and get audience invested to find out what's going on, rather then provide answers already. Let's see how it will develope going on.
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Purposefully halting and or the slowing down of production to get more money out of people and string them a long is fraudulent imo.
Not sure how much of the old story will come to this version so can someone remind me about the ntr please? What kind of ntr is it?
If I remember the old version, the MC cheat on Miru with multiple girls, Miru also got assaulted by a gang and one of them made some insinuation about sex (but I'm not sure and I don't have my saves anymore)
I'm not complaining here, I just need a kind soul to remind me of the content.
If I remember the old version, the MC cheat on Miru with multiple girls, Miru also got assaulted by a gang and one of them made some insinuation about sex (but I'm not sure and I don't have my saves anymore)
I'm not complaining here, I just need a kind soul to remind me of the content.
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Ocean learned a lot about writting and trys more of a realistic aproche so I am not really sure if we gonna see the same content?(probably not I assume) If i remember correctly miru could tease a doctor, sleep with old police friend and in prision MC had mult options to act alpha or more submissiv and evil guys (dont know if they where gang members?)could find the phone and stole if from mc and blackmail him and sleep with miru and than give him videos of it was optional if somebody trys to complain know. So I am pretty sure we will see way better ntr scenes that hurt but are also more realistic and fit the cheracters as far as I remember there are some evil guys in the old story that we not heard much of so there could be alot of potential but I think we will see new scenes that make more sense from a story perspective and are better writte. In my opinion ntr if its done right (which is sadly in 99% not the case
even if i love the kink it)in theory it could make a story so much better cheracters would feel more alive enemys feel more threatening you could have a whole rolercoaster of a relationship which no VN achived atleast the ones thatI played. So I really hope that ocean use everything that he learned the last years because I actually believe that he can make it happening his writting and cheracters feel so much alive in the new version and summer is gonethat I have a lot of faith for where it all began.I mean most ntr games i played are about a neibourgh with 20 cm cock steal your wife and you have 100 million sex scenes(and it plays like a porno but dosent increase the story and often makes no sense) that dosent really make the story better the same goes for harem games so I hope that ocean is one of the fist devs that use ntr as a way to make more believable male and female cheracters, better and believeable threatening enemies(if the story has any) and increase the story overall.
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I think he's talking about the MCs personality in that game, being edgy and looking like he wants to destroy Konohagakure for what they did to his brother before the makeover.I think he’s referring to "summers gone” but I don’t understand how that game is a “cringefest”
That being said, how's Chapter 2 coming along? I remember his post saying he wants to speed up things and not get hung up on small details.
Thanks for the answerOcean learned a lot about writting and trys more of a realistic aproche so I am not really sure if we gonna see the same content?(probably not I assume) If i remember correctly miru could tease a doctor, sleep with old police friend and in prision MC had mult options to act alpha or more submissiv and evil guys (dont know if they where gang members?)could find the phone and stole if from mc and blackmail him and sleep with miru and than give him videos of it was optional if somebody trys to complain know. So I am pretty sure we will see way better ntr scenes that hurt but are also more realistic and fit the cheracters as far as I remember there are some evil guys in the old story that we not heard much of so there could be alot of potential but I think we will see new scenes that make more sense from a story perspective and are better writte. In my opinion ntr if its done right (which is sadly in 99% not the case
That is a better answer than what I was excepting, but you're right, lately, I find myself more interested in games where you can feel the threat than games where the MC is a god who can deal with everything (except of course when it's humor or if MC had a background like City Of Broken Dreamers)
I don't think I like ntr "that hurt" though, I'm more of a Netorase or Netori in extreme cases so I'm not sure how I'll deal with cucking/stealing
I don't play Summer's Gone but I know its reputation so I have high expectations here.
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Perhaps in the short run. In the long run, resorting to such a scheme would undermine the acquisition of new patrons. IMHO, of course.
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Hello,
Sorry for being one day late, but I had to fix the most annoying bug I have encountered yet.
Back during Chapter 3.5 of Summer's Gone I encountered this bug for the first time. I'm suddenly unable to send a certain character to Zbrush. It then says that Daz is unable to find a working ZBrush install.
I can send any other character to it except for this cursed one. I don't know what causes this bug but in SG's case, it was Nia during the basketball game, and gladly, I had lots of previous scenes with her where she was still fine.
This time though, Katie was cursed and apparently through every single render I did with her besides the original duf that I used in the first render.
But I've made so many changes to her after that, that I had to rebuild her again...
Sorry for that little rant but damn did it infuriate me. You set up an entire environment, the posing, etc., and when you want to apply the last touch by sculpting the clothes... The actor refuses to work.
Anyways, I spent the majority of the last two days building our girl Katie back up and now she's back to being a cutie that I can send to Zbrush.
I will make this one here a Bibi Log as I now can't show what I wanted to show.
Work has been as good as it's never been before. At the end of this month, I'll give some numbers to show how incredibly productive this month has been.
The update is now more than half done and yeah... Now I've gotta do some animations.
A point I wanted to discuss was my approach to lewd scenes. I will go into it with the actual Dev Log using the correct renders and videos to describe/showcase what I'm doing.
Here are some visuals to the animations that I'm going to do next.
"Let's get banned from the gym."
- Ocean
I wasn't expecting to hear that chapter 2 is more than half way done in a little over 2 months, but I welcome the surprise. Now, if only SG will get the next update just as quickly...
i think this game's updates are shorter compared to the other one, at least that's how it felt to me with the 1st chapter