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mommysboiii

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Leap of Faith
Games like this dont need a meaningful story or cheracter development because its all about MC baning as much female cheracters as possible their is no realism so i really dont understand why developer like him or become a rockstar or beaing a dik put so much time in looking for good songs, and story because they dont need that in a harem game as far as I understand where it all began is more about realism ,meaning full choices male cheracters that act like male cheracters not every women acts like a pornstar/puppet to satisfy MCS needs they act complet different as far as i understand oceans vision so that is on a other level in terms of binding with a cheracter and story progressen(which you can never achive with 8 or 9 chapters with the current size of updates ) because MALE and FEMALE cheracters need to feel like real humans which is not the case in the games you mentioned.
 

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Games like this dont need a meaningful story or cheracter development because its all about MC baning as much female cheracters as possible their is no realism so i really dont understand why developer like him or become a rockstar or beaing a dik put so much time in looking for good songs, and story because they dont need that in a harem game as far as I understand where it all began is more about realism ,meaning full choices male cheracters that act like male cheracters not every women acts like a pornstar/puppet to satisfy MCS needs they act complet different as far as i understand oceans vision so that is on a other level in terms of binding with a cheracter and story progressen(which you can never achive with 8 or 9 chapters with the current size of updates ) because MALE and FEMALE cheracters need to feel like real humans which is not the case in the games you mentioned.
You really didn't play any of the games i mentioned or even that you mentioned (BARS, BaDik) since none of them are harem games.
 

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Games like this dont need a meaningful story or cheracter development because its all about MC baning as much female cheracters as possible their is no realism so i really dont understand why developer like him or become a rockstar or beaing a dik put so much time in looking for good songs, and story because they dont need that in a harem game as far as I understand where it all began is more about realism ,meaning full choices male cheracters that act like male cheracters not every women acts like a pornstar/puppet to satisfy MCS needs they act complet different as far as i understand oceans vision so that is on a other level in terms of binding with a cheracter and story progressen(which you can never achive with 8 or 9 chapters with the current size of updates ) because MALE and FEMALE cheracters need to feel like real humans which is not the case in the games you mentioned.
As an expression of your particular vision, it is respectable. But I don't agree at all in the appraisals, especially because the new WIAB begins by directly proposing an open relationship, so, as a first step, it invites you to try all the women that appear, trying not to make a mistake in the decisions and assuming that not lying to Miru would be enough. Moreover, Ocean himself has said that certain combinations are possible in both games, obviously there is no harem per se, but neither are there in the games that were mentioned.
Absolutely all VNs including WIAB and SG allow manwhore, then it is up to each particular VN whether the repercussions are credible or not (I prefer a credible universe than a realistic one).
As for characterizations, we play different games, because I see very good characterizations in LoF, BaRS and BaDIK, obviously by your words, you prefer Ocean's approach, and that's fine, but it's not necessary to talk bad about others to enhance your taste.
 

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You really didn't play any of the games i mentioned or even that you mentioned (BARS, BaDik) since none of them are harem games.
dont get me wrong their renders are very beautiful (but I dont understand why they try to makes games as realistic as possible with music and story and on the other hand as unrealistic as possible) I do but they threat male cheracters very unrealistic and i have the feeling that there only meaning is to make not a story about a whole female college where mc is the only male chearcter, cheracters like quinn (hots in generel act like nuns if they are not with mc in a 4 some) or the shy one(acts like a pornstar if she has sex with mc as a virgin) constantly break cheracter because for which audiance the game is desiged they are def hrarem games or play like harem games too me as far as I understand where it all began trys to go a different route which i appretiate
 
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Games like this dont need a meaningful story or cheracter development because its all about MC baning as much female cheracters as possible their is no realism so i really dont understand why developer like him or become a rockstar or beaing a dik put so much time in looking for good songs, and story because they dont need that in a harem game as far as I understand where it all began is more about realism ,meaning full choices male cheracters that act like male cheracters not every women acts like a pornstar/puppet to satisfy MCS needs they act complet different as far as i understand oceans vision so that is on a other level in terms of binding with a cheracter and story progressen(which you can never achive with 8 or 9 chapters with the current size of updates ) because MALE and FEMALE cheracters need to feel like real humans which is not the case in the games you mentioned.
Leap of faith is more mature of a game/vn, than wiab hell even summers gone wishes to be like one.
 
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I really dont see the mature theme how they thread mc compared to other male cheracters or how relationships work but maybe its just me but I have the feeling that this game goes a different approche which I would appreciate but we will see what the future brings
 
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I really dont see the mature theme how they thread mc compared to other male cheracters or how relationships work but maybe its just me but I have the feeling that this game goes a different approche which I would appreciate but we will see what the future brings
Can you decode it please, i didn't learn how to speak military language
 
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dont get me wrong their renders are very beautiful (but I dont understand why they try to makes games as realistic as possible with music and story and on the other hand as unrealistic as possible) I do but they threat male cheracters very unrealistic and i have the feeling that there only meaning is to make not a story about a whole female college where mc is the only male chearcter, cheracters like quinn (hots in generel act like nons if they are not with mc in a 4 some) or the shy one(acts like a pornstar if she has sex with mc as a virgin) constantly break cheracter because for which audiance the game is desiged they are def hrarem games or play like harem games too me as far as I understand where it all began trys to go a different route which i appretiate
Your opnion about the game and that's alright to me. But i didn't bring BaDik as a example exactly because is another long VN with probably 16-20 episodes. I brought Leap of Faith and AL for being the perfect examples of my real point (that i sustain): lenght is not the main factor for the quality of a VN. Even VNs with less than 10 chapters have deeper character development, meaningfull choices, differents paths based in this choices and strong delivery of feelings that can create connections with the characters that we engage. None of this rely only in how long a story is. There is way more things than that.
 
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dont get me wrong their renders are very beautiful (but I dont understand why they try to makes games as realistic as possible with music and story and on the other hand as unrealistic as possible) I do but they threat male cheracters very unrealistic and i have the feeling that there only meaning is to make not a story about a whole female college where mc is the only male chearcter, cheracters like quinn (hots in generel act like nuns if they are not with mc in a 4 some) or the shy one(acts like a pornstar if she has sex with mc as a virgin) constantly break cheracter because for which audiance the game is desiged they are def hrarem games or play like harem games too me as far as I understand where it all began trys to go a different route which i appretiate
Your main problem is how those game treat npc males is it? Holy shit.
You as a male main character, why the Fuck do you care of some random npcs?
 

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Your opnion about the game and that's alright to me. But i didn't bring BaDik as a example exactly because is another long VN with probably 16-20 episodes. I brought Leap of Faith and AL for being the perfect examples of my real point (that i sustain): lenght is not the main factor for the quality of a VN. Even VNs with less than 10 chapters have deeper character development, meaningfull choices, differents paths based in this choices and strong delivery of feelings that can create connections with the characters that we engage. None of this rely only in how long a story is. There is way more things than that.
I respect your opinion I dont see a single game that trys to make the same approache as ocean(maybe our red string ) with good renders, deep cheracter devolopment and realistic cheracters (Male and Female) so as least for me there is no game which we can compare it to in terms of chapter lengh that is already finished.
 

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Your main problem is how those game treat npc males is it? Holy shit.
You as a male main character, why the Fuck do you care of some random npcs?
its all about not breaking cheracter I enjoy realistic storys and writting and if Hots act like nuns with other cheracters or shy women act like ponstar/puppets or a lot of women only want to jump on mcs dick its immersion breaking for me personal maybe not for you
 
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its all about not breaking cheracter I enjoy realistic storys and writting and if Hots act like nuns with other cheracters or shy women act like ponstar/puppets or a lot of women only want to jump on mcs dick its immersion breaking for me personal maybe not for you
Do you consider the miru character in wiab realistic or any of mc's sister?
 

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Your opnion about the game and that's alright to me. But i didn't bring BaDik as a example exactly because is another long VN with probably 16-20 episodes. I brought Leap of Faith and AL for being the perfect examples of my real point (that i sustain): lenght is not the main factor for the quality of a VN. Even VNs with less than 10 chapters have deeper character development, meaningfull choices, differents paths based in this choices and strong delivery of feelings that can create connections with the characters that we engage. None of this rely only in how long a story is. There is way more things than that.
I fully agree, even though I hated AL, it had many very redeemable features.
As for the length, it is as variable as it works, movies are getting longer every day, but series have less and less episodes. And as you already said, being long or short is not exclusive of its quality.
Can you imagine, I don't know, The Mandalorian with 24 episodes instead of the 8 it has?
 
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Do you consider the miru character in wiab realistic or any of mc's sister?
after the update i consider miru(or bella in his other game) as very realistic she asct like as she is written and I feel attached to her but its just one chapter so I need a bit more to see dont saw enough of the sisters in the new update to say that
 
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after the update i consider miru(or bella in his other game) as very realistic she asct like as she is written and I feel attached to her but its just one cheapter so I need a bit more to see dont saw enough of the sisters in the new update to say that
So based on one half ass chapter (which has highly unrealistic incest theme, highly unrealistic cheating theme with multiple partners.... So on) you declared proofs of Narnia's presence.
 

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So based on one half ass chapter (which has highly unrealistic incest theme, highly unrealistic cheating theme with multiple partners.... So on) you declared proofs of Narnia's presence.
I agree that all incest games that i played are highly unrealistic and bad written but i dont saw the incest in the rework so I have no idea how its handeld but miru is written very good in the first cheapter she feels like a human with all her jealousy and so on
 
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I agree that all incest games that i played i highly unrealistic and bad written but i dont saw the incest in the rework so I have no idea how its handeld but miru is written very good in the first cheapter she feels like a human with all her jealousy and so on
Your whole argument is based on how other games are unrealistic yet you still consider this one as a flag bearer of realistic games. Open your eyes, there's an incest tag and mc has two sis in description.
Some one give me 100mg/iv harem please... I can't.
 
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Your whole argument is based on how other games are unrealistic yet you still consider this one as a flag bearer of realistic games. Some one give me 100mg/iv harem please... I can't.
I am pretty sure that it will be i see the vision with episode 1 I saw the thinks that he wrote here so i trust him and have high expectations compared to other games
 
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