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fewer chapters ISN'T ENOUGH PERFECT for him)30 chapters! it's so trustworthy
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Its all about the depth and cheracter development ofc in most other games you basicly have no storys or heavy decissions only harem sex scenes than you can have 8 cheapters and end the game with no story you dont need time for cheracter development or skill in writting but if you want cheracter development and a deep and meaningful story there is no way that this is possible with 8 or 10 cheapters unless ocean has a full team behind him and the cheapters are way longer so yes if you want qualitiy with ocean as one man army it will be probably be over 20 cheapters
- Dec 23, 2018
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Again, this your correlation of "short story = always bad story; long story = always good story" is completely wrong. Longer story can give you time and space to make everything you want and make it good, but also give the risk of things become boring and repetitive. In the same way, in shorter storys you can either have no space to develop things the way you want or you can be objective and concise and tell what you wanna tell without need much more.
Lenght is a factor but is not, by far, the main factor that determinate the quality of a story. Leap of Faith will finish with 8 chapters and no one can deny that it's already a story with deeper characters and meaningful emotional connection. Acting Lesson have 8 chapters in total as well and it's a story with depth and character development too, the backlash the last chpaters created were a proof of that, like it or not. And both are from one man armys too. I'm not saying WIAB shoud be shorter, i'm not demanding anything like that. I'm just saying that is not the lenght of the story that will make it good, It'll be the story itself and how the author tell it.
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yes and no, that is, I partially agree. We already see many vn with many chapters, as a basis for a more developed story, but I do not agree that it is a necessity for character development. Ocean himself teaches how to establish personality and characteristics in little space, here in the old WIAB with Katie, he only needed a flashback scene to show all the depth of a character that in principle only seemed the hollow harpy, in SG with only the old initial sequence (I read that he changed it) you already understood totally the world where the MC is buried, the darkness, the rain, the loneliness, the contempt for others and for life itself.
For my part, I think the mistake was to announce their idea of having 30 chapters, although if we see the old WIAB, the chapters were not so long, the story advanced in another manner and it was logical to need that amount, but if you see SG, each entire chapter is huge, and the more time passes, the more huge it will be, unless the characters disappear certain chapters and the arcs evolve individually through skipped chapters.
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wrong threadThe BETA is releasing tomorrow
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The new version isn't far along enough yet. The old version had 4-5 of them depending on if you count the non-canonical bonus scenes.
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Games like this dont need a meaningful story or cheracter development because its all about MC baning as much female cheracters as possible their is no realism so i really dont understand why developer like him or become a rockstar or beaing a dik put so much time in looking for good songs, and story because they dont need that in a harem game as far as I understand where it all began is more about realism ,meaning full choices male cheracters that act like male cheracters not every women acts like a pornstar/puppet to satisfy MCS needs they act complet different as far as i understand oceans vision so that is on a other level in terms of binding with a cheracter and story progressen(which you can never achive with 8 or 9 chapters with the current size of updates ) because MALE and FEMALE cheracters need to feel like real humans which is not the case in the games you mentioned.
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You really didn't play any of the games i mentioned or even that you mentioned (BARS, BaDik) since none of them are harem games.
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As an expression of your particular vision, it is respectable. But I don't agree at all in the appraisals, especially because the new WIAB begins by directly proposing an open relationship, so, as a first step, it invites you to try all the women that appear, trying not to make a mistake in the decisions and assuming that not lying to Miru would be enough. Moreover, Ocean himself has said that certain combinations are possible in both games, obviously there is no harem per se, but neither are there in the games that were mentioned.
Absolutely all VNs including WIAB and SG allow manwhore, then it is up to each particular VN whether the repercussions are credible or not (I prefer a credible universe than a realistic one).
As for characterizations, we play different games, because I see very good characterizations in LoF, BaRS and BaDIK, obviously by your words, you prefer Ocean's approach, and that's fine, but it's not necessary to talk bad about others to enhance your taste.
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dont get me wrong their renders are very beautiful (but I dont understand why they try to makes games as realistic as possible with music and story and on the other hand as unrealistic as possible) I do but they threat male cheracters very unrealistic and i have the feeling that there only meaning is to make not a story about a whole female college where mc is the only male chearcter, cheracters like quinn (hots in generel act like nuns if they are not with mc in a 4 some) or the shy one(acts like a pornstar if she has sex with mc as a virgin) constantly break cheracter because for which audiance the game is desiged they are def hrarem games or play like harem games too me as far as I understand where it all began trys to go a different route which i appretiate
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Leap of faith is more mature of a game/vn, than wiab hell even summers gone wishes to be like one.
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I really dont see the mature theme how they thread mc compared to other male cheracters or how relationships work but maybe its just me but I have the feeling that this game goes a different approche which I would appreciate but we will see what the future brings
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Can you decode it please, i didn't learn how to speak military language